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RWS · « **Reply #40 on:** May 15, 2009, 09:00:27 PM »

Prowler, I'm still waiting on the name of the owner of the dealership since you must know it if you proclaim he is a huge supporter of Alabama athletics.

Argo · « **Reply #41 on:** May 15, 2009, 09:24:20 PM »

Prowler, I seriously hope you are posting this as a joke to get the local Bama fans stirred up.

Argo · « **Reply #42 on:** May 15, 2009, 09:28:39 PM »

Also, for the record, the F.B.I. along with the Etowah County Sheriff's Office assisted the Alabama Department of Revenue with the search. This is an Alabama Department of Revenue investigation, for those seriously interested.

RWS · « **Reply #43 on:** May 15, 2009, 09:31:32 PM »

Quote from: Argo on May 15, 2009, 09:28:39 PM

Also, for the record, the F.B.I. along with the Etowah County Sheriff's Office assisted the Alabama Department of Revenue with the search. This is an Alabama Department of Revenue investigation, for those seriously interested.

Facts and logic are not welcome in any thread started by Prowler.

Kaos · « **Reply #44 on:** May 15, 2009, 10:02:31 PM »

Quote from: Tiger Wench on May 15, 2009, 03:56:00 PM

Hey, you brought up the intergalactic stuff - Picard is a bad ass. At least I didn't go all Obi Wan...

Obi Wan would murderize Picard's caviar-sniffing ass.

Kirk would kill them both with a rock and a pair of space scissors. Then he'd get freaky with their wives.

Pell City Tiger · « **Reply #45 on:** May 15, 2009, 10:40:07 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on May 15, 2009, 10:02:31 PM

Obi Wan would murderize Picard's caviar-sniffing ass.

Kirk would kill them both with a rock and a pair of space scissors. Then he'd get freaky with their wives.

I honestly tried to immerse myself into the post-Kirk era of Star Trek. I couldn't do it. They should have rigged the Enterprise with explosives and ended the series with a bang at the end of the run back in '69. Having someone else leading the crew in boldly going where no man has gone before is equal to Paulie Shore performing Shakespeare in my opinion.

RWS · « **Reply #46 on:** May 16, 2009, 12:14:37 AM »

A couple of interesting things from some folks in Gadrock (Gadsden)

Apparently there had been alot of complaints from folks trading in their vehicles that the dealership was not promptly paying off the traded in vehicle. Supposedly, Crown would take the money given to them from the financing of the new vehicle to in part pay off the balance of the traded in vehicle. They would use that money as cash flow for a few months. The buyer would get calls from the finance company of the traded in vehicle wondering why there hasn't been a payment. Chaos ensues. The vehicle is finally paid off.
In November the management at all three dealerships was changed and finance managers at two of the locations were changed.
Sometime recently (in the past 3-4 months) a new owner bought Crown Motors.
This owner attempted to buy out a Hyundai dealership. The owners of the Hyundai dealership reneged on their end of the purchase contract and the new owner of Crown stopped payment to the owners of the Hyundai place.
Nobody thinks that the new owner is in the wrong, nor do they think this has anything to do with the Hyundai deal. They think it has to do with the previous owner of Crown and some shady accounting practices at the dealership and at the accounting firm.

I think over the next few days some things will become public. In the meantime, please continue to spin how this will be a groundbreaking event and will bring Alabama football to its knees.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #47 on:** May 16, 2009, 01:20:06 AM »

I boldly went where very few of you fuckers have ever been...yesterday.

Trust me...this is reserved for X tailgate talk only.

It doesn't involve Philipino whores so it may be boring.

Jumbo · « **Reply #48 on:** May 16, 2009, 01:24:27 AM »

Quote from: Harvey Birdman on May 16, 2009, 01:20:06 AM

I boldly went where very few of you fuckers have ever been...yesterday.

Trust me...this is reserved for X tailgate talk only.

It doesn't involve Philipino whores so it may be boring.

Did you go your own way?

boartitz · « **Reply #49 on:** May 16, 2009, 07:02:40 AM »

Quote from: Pell City Tiger on May 15, 2009, 10:40:07 PM

I honestly tried to immerse myself into the post-Kirk era of Star Trek. I couldn't do it. They should have rigged the Enterprise with explosives and ended the series with a bang at the end of the run back in '69. Having someone else leading the crew in boldly going where no man has gone before is equal to Paulie Shore performing Shakespeare in my opinion.

The new movie is pretty good.

Kaos · « **Reply #50 on:** May 16, 2009, 10:08:52 AM »

Quote from: Jumbo on May 16, 2009, 01:24:27 AM

Did you go your own way?

Sounds like he took a detour on the Hershey Highway to me.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 16, 2009, 12:42:21 PM »

Quote from: runswithscissors on May 15, 2009, 07:56:43 PM

Actually, when it involves a corporation, and if there is any sort of fraud, that brings it into the FBI's field of play.

I don't think this is accurate.

What would implicate the FBI's jurisdiction? Corporations are subject to the laws of their home state and fraud, unless it's wire fraud, isn't necessarily a federal issue. Your statement may be true in some instances, but it is not an accurate generalization.

RWS · « **Reply #52 on:** May 16, 2009, 04:54:34 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on May 16, 2009, 12:42:21 PM

I don't think this is accurate.

What would implicate the FBI's jurisdiction? Corporations are subject to the laws of their home state and fraud, unless it's wire fraud, isn't necessarily a federal issue. Your statement may be true in some instances, but it is not an accurate generalization.

Certain types of fraud are a federal issue. They mainly deal with fraud in publically traded companies, however, they can assert jurisdiction in any corporate fraud case where basically the books are being cooked to inflate profit or hide loss, among many other factors. You won't see them get in the middle of much other than a publically traded company because usully fraud at a small corporate level isn't a large amount of money or doesn't affect the general American public. The FBI isn't the organization that raided the dealership anyway. The Alabama Department of Revenue is the lead investigative agency on it and they are the agency that applied for and executed the search warrant. They simply asked the FBI to assist them as oversight. I think thats why the whole thing screams accounting fraud/subsequent tax issues.

The Prowler · « **Reply #53 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:37:00 PM »

Forrest Frost

boartitz · « **Reply #54 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:54:39 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on May 16, 2009, 12:42:21 PM

I don't think this is accurate.

What would implicate the FBI's jurisdiction? Corporations are subject to the laws of their home state and fraud, unless it's wire fraud, isn't necessarily a federal issue. Your statement may be true in some instances, but it is not an accurate generalization.

Probably some interstate dealings, which would involve the FBI. Just guessing. I'm no barrister, but I did sleep in a tent on Bayou Bartholomew the other night.

RWS · « **Reply #55 on:** May 16, 2009, 09:58:31 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 16, 2009, 05:37:00 PM

Forrest Frost

Its about time you figured it out. I knew it when I asked you, its really not that hard to find out. Now, please explain how he is a big Alabama supporter. I'm dying to hear this part.

The Prowler · « **Reply #56 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:30:49 PM »

You should know...that is if you go to any REC meetings.

RWS · « **Reply #57 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:34:22 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 16, 2009, 11:30:49 PM

You should know...that is if you go to any REC meetings.

Please, enlighten me.

Oh, and another little interesting tidbit to go along with this story. Anybody care to take a guess at who the owner and president of Kirkland & Company of Gadsden, PC are? Kirkland is the car dealership's accounting firm that got raided, in case you have a bad memory.

Owner: Donna Frost
President: Forrest Frost

I'm starting to see a fairly clear picture why the Alabama Department of Revenue is interested in them.

The Prowler · « **Reply #58 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:39:42 AM »

Well, who owns a certain Pharmacy in Tuscaloosa? And by certain, I'm pretty sure you know the one I'm talking about....just curious.

RWS · « **Reply #59 on:** May 17, 2009, 12:25:01 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 17, 2009, 04:39:42 AM

Well, who owns a certain Pharmacy in Tuscaloosa? And by certain, I'm pretty sure you know the one I'm talking about....just curious.

I'm asking you specifically how Forrest Frost is involved with the REC and/or how is a big booster/supporter, and how this can be proven. No reason to dance around the question by answering a question with a question. Since you apparently have all the answers, please enlighten me. You're the one that claimed all of this, so spill the beans. I'm interested in knowing what the connection is, not playing fifty questions and going six ways from Sunday with the answer.