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So Pelosi DID know after all

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So Pelosi DID know after all
« on: May 08, 2009, 03:10:25 PM »
Well, well, well.    The bitch has been challenged by The Washington Post (and the CIA) about her knowledge of the enhanced interrogation methods being used on captured terrorists (Yes, I'm calling a spade a spade there) after saying repeatedly she had no knowledge of these methods.  So much for her having any plausible deniability.  With the Democrats socialists in charge of everything they'll find little cover...even the MSM can't ignore their antics (read as lies) any longer.  I wonder when she'll be back-peddling on this issue?

This is an excerpt from the Washington Post story, all emphasis is my own as usual:

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CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

[7 May 2009]

By Paul Kane

Intelligence officials released documents this evening saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was briefed in September 2002 about the use of harsh interrogation tactics against al-Qaeda prisoners, seemingly contradicting her repeated statements over the past 18 months that she was never told that these techniques were actually being used.

In a 10-page memo outlining an almost seven-year history of classified briefings, intelligence officials said that Pelosi and then-Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.) were the first two members of Congress ever briefed on the interrogation tactics. Then the ranking member and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, respectively, Pelosi and Goss were briefed Sept. 4, 2002, one week before the first anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
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The rest of the story:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/05/cia_says_pelosi_was_briefed_on.html
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 03:23:40 PM »
Well they were going to show terrorists pictures of Pelosi but that was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 03:32:50 PM »
Well they were going to show terrorists pictures of Pelosi but that was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment.
Only the ones of her and Helen Thomas locked up in a bikini clad strap on dildo duel. They say that's the one what got Khalid Shek Mohammad to spill the beans.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2009, 10:37:49 PM »
Only the ones of her and Helen Thomas locked up in a bikini clad strap on dildo duel. They say that's the one what got Khalid Shek Mohammad to spill the beans. 
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I'm visualizing tube socks with tennis balls... 
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 11:47:38 AM »
You can't even use the expletive "Fuck Pelosi" because no one would...
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 12:45:13 PM »
If I had a gun with just two bullets and I was in an elevator, and Nancy and Osama Bin Laden got on the elevator.......haha I would have to try and strangle Osama.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 03:31:44 PM »
If I had a gun with just two bullets and I was in an elevator, and Nancy and Osama Bin Laden got on the elevator.......haha I would have to try and strangle Osama.

I thought that was funny as hell. But apparently everyone thinks Wanda Sykes is funnier and should not have to apologize.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 03:35:33 PM »
I thought that was funny as hell. But apparently everyone thinks Wanda Sykes is funnier and should not have to apologize.

Educate me.  What did Wanda say at the event the other evening that was out of line?  I have been out of the loop for about the last week.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 04:53:30 PM »
**UPDATE**

Pelosi keeps spinning this story and changing what she said again (claiming that 'someone' was briefed but not her) but we all know she is full of shit at this point and has no credibility at all; here's her latest claim in an excerpt from the AP news item, all emphasis is my own:

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Pelosi says she learned of waterboarding in 2003


May 14, 1:30 PM (ET)

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

WASHINGTON (AP) - Under strong attack from Republicans, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused the CIA and Bush administration of misleading her about waterboarding detainees in the war on terror and sharply rebutted claims she was complicit in the method's use.

"To the contrary ... we were told explicitly that waterboarding was not being used," she told reporters, referring to a formal CIA briefing she received in the fall of 2002.

Pelosi said she subsequently learned that other lawmakers were told several months later by the CIA about the use of waterboarding.

"I wasn't briefed, I was informed that somebody else had been briefed about it," she said.
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The rest of the article:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090514/D9865AJO0.html

Anyway...it was ALL the CIA's fault (and the evil Bush Administration).
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 02:31:54 PM »
**UPDATE**

Pelosi keeps spinning this story and changing what she said again...

Anyway...it was ALL the CIA's fault (and the evil Bush Administration).

The story continues and I hate to point out the obvious but if Pelosi was a Republican she would have been shamed into resigning her post long before now.  I think House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) is probably getting ready to 'measure the drapes' of the speaker's office anyway.

And of all of the Fed-Gov entities NOT to pick a fight with I think the CIA is right up there at the top of the list next to the FBI and the IRS; excerpt from The WaPo, all emphasis is my own:

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Speaker's Comments Raise Detainee Debate to New Level

By Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 15, 2009

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's extraordinary accusation that the Bush administration lied to Congress about the use of harsh interrogation techniques dramatically raised the stakes in the growing debate over the Bush administration's anti-terrorism policies even as it raised some questions about the speaker's credibility.

Pelosi's performance in the Capitol was either a calculated escalation of a long-running feud with the Bush administration or a reckless act by a politician whose word had been called into question. Perhaps it was both.

For the first time, Pelosi (D-Calif.) acknowledged that in 2003 she was informed by an aide that the CIA had told others in Congress that officials had used waterboarding during interrogations. But she insisted, contrary to CIA accounts, that she was not told about waterboarding during a September 2002 briefing by agency officials. Asked whether she was accusing the CIA of lying, she replied, "Yes, misleading the Congress of the United States."
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Full story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/14/AR2009051404240_pf.html
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 02:55:10 PM »
I think House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) is probably getting ready to 'measure the drapes' of the speaker's office anyway.

Why doesn't he just let her stay and he can have a set of meat curtains?
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 03:25:06 PM »
Why doesn't he just let her stay and he can have a set of meat curtains?


I like the new Mal Reynolds quote in your signature, Sani.

"It's a real burden being right so often."
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 08:25:37 AM »
Educate me.  What did Wanda say at the event the other evening that was out of line?  I have been out of the loop for about the last week.

I'm sure you've heard by now -

But she said she wanted Rush Limbaugh dead preferably by kidney failure.  Obama cackled milk through his nose cause it was so funny. 
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 06:53:06 PM »
But she said she wanted Rush Limbaugh dead preferably by kidney failure.  Obama cackled milk through his nose cause it was so funny. 
She ran her mouth just like any other Leftist mommy part cracking jokes based on half-truths, Leftist concocted stereotypes and associated propoganda.  When someone on the Right says something like this, everyone associates it with mean-spirited hate speech.  When someone on the Left says it, it's completely acceptable.  At the rate in which The Obama is breaking his campaign promises lately, they need all the diversionary tactics they can get.  The Blame Bush modus operandi is losing strength and credibility. 
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 07:49:01 AM »

I like the new Mal Reynolds quote in your signature, Sani.

"It's a real burden being right so often."

Thanks, I knew at least you would get it.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2009, 11:38:35 AM »
She ran her mouth just like any other Leftist mommy part cracking jokes based on half-truths, Leftist concocted stereotypes and associated propoganda.  When someone on the Right says something like this, everyone associates it with mean-spirited hate speech.  When someone on the Left says it, it's completely acceptable.  At the rate in which The Obama is breaking his campaign promises lately, they need all the diversionary tactics they can get.  The Blame Bush modus operandi is losing strength and credibility. 

Yes.  And I notice that Pelosi has been quiet about that supposed "Republican culture of corruption" lately too.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2009, 02:44:00 PM »
I saw where the Republicans are asking Madam Speaker to either present the facts and launch an investigation into the CIA lying to Congress or she needs to step up and apologize to the CIA.  IMO, she knew. 

Now we all know that she will do neither of the above.  #1) I don't believe that the CIA lied to her and she has no evidence and #2) she can't apologize and fess up that she knew more than she is acting like she knows b/c of the political fallout she will suffer.
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 02:45:33 PM »
Oh yeah, is it just me or is anyone else enjoying watching her squirm like a worm under and magnifying glass on a sunny day?
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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 10:25:33 PM »
Oh yeah, is it just me or is anyone else enjoying watching her squirm like a worm under and magnifying glass on a sunny day?

Schadenfreude at it's best; of course I'm enjoying it.  I hope this issue drives her to step down but she probably won't.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: So Pelosi DID know after all
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2009, 11:15:09 AM »
Schadenfreude at it's best; of course I'm enjoying it.  I hope this issue drives her to step down but she probably won't.

Same here, but I hope she stays just long enough for it to be driven home how unethical her and her party are.  We need to win some election in 2010 very bad. 
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