Who Am I?

AUChizad · « **on:** February 14, 2009, 02:20:20 PM »

This is copypasta from a comments section of an article I read, but I thought it was fitting due to recent conversations here.

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I am a coach who hated my last job. I had a losing overall record, and I lost 10 games my last season there. I really wanted to get back to where I was WAY more successful, and so I decided to return to the SEC where I was part of championship-caliber teams. I was offered a much higher paying job, and I took it in a heartbeat despite “rebuilding” efforts at my then current job. I took a lot of crap for taking this new job, but I am determined to be successful. I have no doubt that I’ll be able to return to my successful ways before too long, despite my dismal performance at my last job. As a matter of fact, I’d prefer it if we just neglected my last job altogether. I have now arrived at the place I want to stay and build a legacy. I just had a decent first recruiting class. Good, but not great. Next season may be a little bit tough, but I guarantee that I will recruit endlessly and will be a dominant recruiter, and in years to come I will turn this team around.

My name: no, it’s NOT Gene Chizik…………it’s Nick Saban.

Now it is worth noting that I concede Gene Chizik is not Nick Saban, nor do I want him to be…but the similarities are striking.

The Prowler · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2009, 03:39:24 PM »

Yes the similarities are striking.

But, here's a real Who Am I?

I was the Head Coach of a (6-5) D1AA team in my first and only year ('83).
I was in the running to be the next HC at D1 University where I was the QB Coach in ('82), but got turned down.
I was (5-17) in my first two years of three as the Head Coach of a team in the same state as the D1 team where I was turned down ('85-'87).
I was (2-20) in my first two years of 10 as the Head Coach of a team that was in a conference being Dominated by one team out of Florida ('88-'97).
I am still Coaching.

Who Am I?

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:14:20 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on February 14, 2009, 03:39:24 PM

Yes the similarities are striking.

But, here's a real Who Am I?

I was the Head Coach of a (6-5) D1AA team in my first and only year ('83).
I was in the running to be the next HC at D1 University where I was the QB Coach in ('82), but got turned down.
I was (5-17) in my first two years of three as the Head Coach of a team in the same state as the D1 team where I was turned down ('85-'87).
I was (2-20) in my first two years of 10 as the Head Coach of a team that was in a conference being Dominated by one team out of Florida ('88-'97).

Who Am I?

I really have no clue. I think you need to add a few more. Is he still coaching now? He only coached ten years and stopped in 97?

The Prowler · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:26:29 PM »

*Added another hint*

tiger88 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2009, 05:22:53 PM »

Slack Mack Brown aka The owner of all things musschamp.

The Prowler · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:25:57 PM »

Quote from: tiger88 on February 14, 2009, 05:22:53 PM

Slack Mack Brown aka The owner of all things musschamp.

Bingo

Kaos · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:29:09 PM »

Fucking ridiculous. Apples and Chinese food.

The Prowler · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:41:35 PM »

I was (6-10) at my first stop as a HC in the NFL ('94)
I was (28-23) at my next HC stop in the NFL ('97-'99)
I took one year off ('00)
I was (6-6) in my first year of my first Head Coaching gig at the College Level ('01).
I'm still coaching

Who Am I?

tiger88 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:49:17 PM »

Pete Carrol

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2009, 07:10:29 PM »

You forgot to add that both of those coaches are now at the biggest schools in the state and are national media darlings.

Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2009, 09:23:25 PM »

I bet they wouldn't have a faggoty looking avater though.

The Prowler · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:12:19 AM »

Quote from: tiger88 on February 14, 2009, 06:49:17 PM

Pete Carrol

Bingo

AWK · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2009, 03:57:07 AM »

Fuck comparing ourselves to Alabama...

AUChizad · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2009, 10:32:50 AM »

I agree, and the original author covered that in his post. However, I thought it was fitting considering some consider Sabbun a God amongst men, while Chizik is "all hat, no cattle" and the worst hire in college football history...

Kaos · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2009, 11:08:13 AM »

Quote from: Chizad on February 15, 2009, 10:32:50 AM

I agree, and the original author covered that in his post. However, I thought it was fitting considering some consider Sabbun a God amongst men, while Chizik is "all hat, no cattle" and the worst hire in college football history...

No, it doesn't fit shit. If ALL Saban had as head coaching experience was what was displayed, then you'd have a somewhat valid comparison. Unfortunately you don't.

Gene Chizik was the worst hire ever made by a major college football program other than perhaps Gerry Faust by Notre Dame.

Name a single other SERIOUS program, a program that professes to want to compete at the highest level that would have taken a chance on a coach like Chizik. Just one. The only thing remotely close was Bama's Shula hire and that came in the wake of the Price debacle and was an emergency freak out.

AUChizad · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2009, 11:21:13 AM »

Which part of the first post does not describe Chizik or Sabbun? I'd say the comparison BEING MADE is undoubtedly valid. Maybe not your straw man.

Kaos · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:18:38 PM »

Quote from: Chizad on February 15, 2009, 11:21:13 AM

Which part of the first post does not describe Chizik or Sabbun? I'd say the comparison BEING MADE is undoubtedly valid. Maybe not your straw man.

Chizik is the fucking straw man. And the tin man, too. Only time will tell if he's also that retarded lion.

The comparison is completely invalid because you ignore everything else that refutes the argument. Saban's NFL experience has no relation to Chizik's college experience. If Saban had never coached college and that was his only experience, then you'd have a point. Sadly, you don't. It wasn't Saban's first two years as coach. There is ZERO correlation there.

If you want to drag the exceptions like Mack Brown in there, then go for it. It would be a valid comparison. When you're using exceptions to prove a rule, however, your argument has already failed.

AUChizad · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2009, 08:52:10 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on February 15, 2009, 12:18:38 PM

Chizik is the fucking straw man. And the tin man, too. Only time will tell if he's also that retarded lion.

The comparison is completely invalid because you ignore everything else that refutes the argument. Saban's NFL experience has no relation to Chizik's college experience. If Saban had never coached college and that was his only experience, then you'd have a point. Sadly, you don't. It wasn't Saban's first two years as coach. There is ZERO correlation there.

Straw. Man.

This does not make any of the parallels in the original post untrue.

Kaos · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2009, 10:26:13 PM »

There is a difference between truth and relevance.

Chizik wears reading glasses. So does S. Epatha Merkerson's character on Law & Order.

This is a true comparison.

You cannot from this infer that Chizik is, therefore, a black woman playing a police officer on television. That's relevance. The comparison that started this turd of a thread is no more valid than the inference above.

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2009, 10:30:12 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on February 15, 2009, 10:26:13 PM

There is a difference between truth and relevance.

Chizik wears reading glasses. So does S. Epatha Merkerson's character on Law & Order.

This is a true comparison.

You cannot from this infer that Chizik is, therefore, a black woman playing a police officer on television. That's relevance. The comparison that started this turd of a thread is no more valid than the inference above.

So, when are you going to stop posting argumentative post after post and actually write something for the front, Mr. "Head Writer"?

Just asking a question....