Prime example of the naivety of the Obama voter

[AUTailgatingRules]

As stated many time the Obama was elected on the back of young people.  I have contended that they have no idea of what it is like in the real world and voted for him wih a sense a naivety.

Now in the economic downturn, they can't figure out why they are getting laid off or why they can't find a job at all.  These people have been coddled all their lives and have been told that they deserve everything even if they are not willing to work for it or take responsibility for their own actions.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28663645/

[Buzz Killington]

No Voter left behind...

[Tarheel]

Excellent story!  And you really hit the proverbial nail on the head with regards to the coddling these youths received...

from the story:

...Lindsey Rhein, 24, of Placentia, Calif.

She’s been out of work for nearly four months after getting laid off as a legal assistant for a construction company.  She’s applied to over 700 jobs and has gotten only seven interviews, leading nowhere.

Even with a master’s degree in forensic psychology and a bachelor’s in sociology, she hasn’t been able to land a sales associate job at Target, and she can’t even get a call back from McDonald's, where she applied for the fast food chain’s management training program two months ago.

The experience has shocked Rhein.

“We were told it was our generation's time to shine, that we could achieve our dreams plus more,” she says. “When I was laid off I thought finding another job was going to be cake.”...

She goes on later...

..."Growing up, my parents were telling me, ‘The world is at your fingertips. All you have to do is educate yourself, go to college, and you’d get a prime position right out of school.’ They were wrong.”...

Then there's this arrogant punk:

...Indeed, James Anderson, 29, says, “I could have had a job by now if I lowered my expectations on salary and the job.”...“A lot of people are taking a little less,” he explains. “I’m not ready to concede.”...

And this comment was really the best summary:

...Some career experts believe it’s that kind of mentality that hurts many Gen Yers because they aren’t willing to start small and pay their dues.

“This is the most educated generation, and they were told, "You're special,’ ” notes workplace consultant J.T. O'Donnell. “Well … they’re not special, and they end up going out into the professional world and finding this out.”
...

[GarMan]

Now in the economic downturn, they can't figure out why they are getting laid off or why they can't find a job at all.  These people have been coddled all their lives and have been told that they deserve everything even if they are not willing to work for it or take responsibility for their own actions.

Isn't that the truth...  As "miserable" as this "recession" has been, I've been working back to back and overlapping IT project proposals since November.  I have three overwhelming problems.  
1) I'm selling the work.  
2) It's all selling at the same time presenting resource staffing problems.
3) The resources that we do have are being picky about what they want to do.  

What the fuck is that?  I didn't have a choice when I was their age.  They have a job during a "recession", and they're going to have the balls to be picky about their assignments?  The partner on one of my engagements actually called one of these punks a "pussy".  I can't believe this shit.  I'd let them go if I had a say...  Try standing in an unemployment line!

The latest bitch actually provided me with a list of "demands"...
- She is going to the innauguration next week, and she isn't going to miss it.  
- Her husband is working on his MBA and only has limited times for vacation, so her PTO schedules are "non-negotiable".
- She has to work from home "one week out of every month" because of a "medical issue".

I told her the project will likely start on Monday.  

[AUTailgatingRules]

The latest bitch actually provided me with a list of "demands"...
- She is going to the innauguration next week, and she isn't going to miss it.    
- Her husband is working on his MBA and only has limited times for vacation, so her PTO schedules are "non-negotiable".
- She has to work from home "one week out of every month" because of a "medical issue".

I told her the project will likely start on Monday.  

1.  Fire her immediately and let Obama teke care of her
2.  Vacation time my ass.  If you want a job you will earn PTO after at least a year on the job
3.  I know your PMS is bad but deal with it and get your ass to the office

[Snaggletiger]

Are you in Alabama?  If so, take Mark's advice.  Fire her yesterday.

[GarMan]

Are you in Alabama?  If so, take Mark's advice.  Fire her yesterday.

If I could, I definitely would.  She's a fucking problem, but she has a good reputation in the firm for some unknown reason.  Just from my couple of hours dealing with her, I've come to the abundantly clear conclusion that she's a bitch. 

Personally, I'm ready to say Fuck 'em All and open a cigar bar somewhere. 

[AUTailgatingRules]

If I could, I definitely would.  She's a fucking problem, but she has a good reputation in the firm for some unknown reason.  Just from my couple of hours dealing with her, I've come to the abundantly clear conclusion that she's a bitch. 

Personally, I'm ready to say Fuck 'em All and open a cigar bar somewhere. 

Going to be tough to make any $$ after Obama hammers the cigar market with the new taxes

[GarMan]

If I could, I definitely would.  She's a fucking problem, but she has a good reputation in the firm for some unknown reason.  Just from my couple of hours dealing with her, I've come to the abundantly clear conclusion that she's a bitch. 

Well, fuck her...  I couldn't fire her, but I ditched her from the project proposal.  She can go find another project.  I found another person with more direct experience than her.  Let her work on her utilization for a while.  With any luck, she'll fall below acceptable and get canned in a month or so... 

[RWS]

Excellent story!  And you really hit the proverbial nail on the head with regards to the coddling these youths received...

from the story:
She goes on later...
Then there's this arrogant punk:
And this comment was really the best summary:

i'm 25 and i agree, i know in school we were made to feel special and that as long as you went to college it would be like pie in the sky and you would make tons of money and be uber successful. nowhere did they mention all of the hard work and clawing you would have to do once you get out of college. it was like you graduate and employers will be beating your door down to hire you and pay you $100k/year. my parents always taught me that hard work was the only way i would be successful in life. thats what they were taught in their day and why they are successful. i was in the advanced diploma program at our school and had to leave during my senior year due to medical issues and got my GED shortly thereafter. even with a GED i was able to go from working as a cashier making $6.25/HR to supervising 40 employees as a salaried manager making anywhere from $35k-$42k a year. depending on what you are applying for, employers don't give a fuck about what degrees or whatever you have. all they know is they are going to pay you and they want to make sure that they are going to get somebody who is a good investment and that they are going to get their moneys worth.

[Tarheel]

i'm 25 and i agree, i know in school we were made to feel special and that as long as you went to college it would be like pie in the sky and you would make tons of money and be uber successful. nowhere did they mention all of the hard work and clawing you would have to do once you get out of college. it was like you graduate and employers will be beating your door down to hire you and pay you $100k/year. my parents always taught me that hard work was the only way i would be successful in life. thats what they were taught in their day and why they are successful. i was in the advanced diploma program at our school and had to leave during my senior year due to medical issues and got my GED shortly thereafter. even with a GED i was able to go from working as a cashier making $6.25/HR to supervising 40 employees as a salaried manager making anywhere from $35k-$42k a year. depending on what you are applying for, employers don't give a fuck about what degrees or whatever you have. all they know is they are going to pay you and they want to make sure that they are going to get somebody who is a good investment and that they are going to get their moneys worth.

That's very interesting to hear from someone your age.  Keep up the hard work.

[Saniflush]

master’s degree in forensic psychology and a bachelor’s in sociology

This is that bitch's first and second problem

[Tiger Wench]

My favorite part:

She believes the recession will light a fire under the Gen Y crowd as they go head-to-head with older workers. They’re going to have to pound the pavement, take less money, work their way up the ladder, she advises, just like the generations before them.

OH THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN...

[AUTiger1]

i'm 25 and i agree, i know in school we were made to feel special and that as long as you went to college it would be like pie in the sky and you would make tons of money and be uber successful. nowhere did they mention all of the hard work and clawing you would have to do once you get out of college. it was like you graduate and employers will be beating your door down to hire you and pay you $100k/year. my parents always taught me that hard work was the only way i would be successful in life. thats what they were taught in their day and why they are successful. i was in the advanced diploma program at our school and had to leave during my senior year due to medical issues and got my GED shortly thereafter. even with a GED i was able to go from working as a cashier making $6.25/HR to supervising 40 employees as a salaried manager making anywhere from $35k-$42k a year. depending on what you are applying for, employers don't give a fuck about what degrees or whatever you have. all they know is they are going to pay you and they want to make sure that they are going to get somebody who is a good investment and that they are going to get their moneys worth.

RWS, I have to agree and disagree at the same time.  Sometimes it doesn't matter what degree you have or don't have and sometimes it does.  I am almost topped out where I work.  I have a degree in education, not computer science.  I am the head admin over a couple of systems here at work, one of them being the lifeblood of our contract.  Now when I hired in, there were two other guys that hired in right after me.  One with a CS degree from UA and the other with a CS degree from Athens State.  Now they were hired in with better job titles and in higher labor categories than I was.  To this day they still make upwards of 12K+ more a year than I do, but yet I have more responsibility than them, I am also in a lower labor category than they are.  In all reality, if we were going by job title they would outrank me, but I get to tell them what to do on a daily basis, but I am the one that has to deal with the customer when he becomes unhappy and the vendors than come in, and then I report to two superiors above me.  Now when I came in I knew a little LINUX/UNIX and I mean very little, but I busted my ass, took all the training they would send me on, read all the tech manuals I could get my hands on, asked to work on the systems as much as possible and the bosses took noticed and started trusting me with more responsibility little by little. 

So I do agree on the hard work and busting your ass, and them wanting to get a good return on their investment (i.e.you the worker) but I have to disagree with the whole degree thing.  I can't get above a Network Systems Analyst II w/o a degree in CS or at least 8 yrs work experience and I have a year and a half before I get to that point.  The guys below me are III and IV's.  They have the piece of paper that is in field and therefore will make more money than I will.  It doesn't matter that they are lazy and haven't moved that much in the past 6 1/2 years, they still get the big bucks.  Now, I could have went back to school, but then I would have had to sacrificed all the OT that I could work and the training that my job was willing to send me on.  That would have meant less money at a time I really needed it, less OTJ and less training to gain more knowledge in my specific field.

[RWS]

RWS, I have to agree and disagree at the same time.  Sometimes it doesn't matter what degree you have or don't have and sometimes it does.  I am almost topped out where I work.  I have a degree in education, not computer science.  I am the head admin over a couple of systems here at work, one of them being the lifeblood of our contract.  Now when I hired in, there were two other guys that hired in right after me.  One with a CS degree from UA and the other with a CS degree from Athens State.  Now they were hired in with better job titles and in higher labor categories than I was.  To this day they still make upwards of 12K+ more a year than I do, but yet I have more responsibility than them, I am also in a lower labor category than they are.  In all reality, if we were going by job title they would outrank me, but I get to tell them what to do on a daily basis, but I am the one that has to deal with the customer when he becomes unhappy and the vendors than come in, and then I report to two superiors above me.  Now when I came in I knew a little LINUX/UNIX and I mean very little, but I busted my ass, took all the training they would send me on, read all the tech manuals I could get my hands on, asked to work on the systems as much as possible and the bosses took noticed and started trusting me with more responsibility little by little. 

So I do agree on the hard work and busting your ass, and them wanting to get a good return on their investment (i.e.you the worker) but I have to disagree with the whole degree thing.  I can't get above a Network Systems Analyst II w/o a degree in CS or at least 8 yrs work experience and I have a year and a half before I get to that point.  The guys below me are III and IV's.  They have the piece of paper that is in field and therefore will make more money than I will.  It doesn't matter that they are lazy and haven't moved that much in the past 6 1/2 years, they still get the big bucks.  Now, I could have went back to school, but then I would have had to sacrificed all the OT that I could work and the training that my job was willing to send me on.  That would have meant less money at a time I really needed it, less OTJ and less training to gain more knowledge in my specific field.

like i said though, it all depends on what you are going for. some things like your field do require a piece of paper to get to a certain pay grade. other things don't and can be achieved with hard work.