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« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2024, 09:59:32 AM »
Are these two points still valid? Asking for a friend.

Because a clemency spree just happened. A lot of them bad bad people.

When I saw the huge number all at once, I wondered what kind of vetting process was done, because it does appear that there were some really bad apples that got their get out of jail free cards.
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« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2024, 10:02:19 AM »
Are these two points still valid? Asking for a friend.

Because a clemency spree just happened. A lot of them bad bad people.

clemency =/= pardon
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« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2024, 12:25:44 PM »
clemency =/= pardon

it serves the same purpose.  your boy Joe has done more than anyone regardless how you want to define it, shape it or mold it to fit.
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« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2024, 02:13:48 PM »
clemency =/= pardon

You know exactly what I am driving at here. Quit being obtuse. Clemency was used purposely here since it's all encompassing. Whether general clemency or specifically a full pardon, the jist of your post was a philosophical "spirit of the rule" disagreement with the entire concept at the POTUS level. The more it's done, the worse - right?
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« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2024, 02:33:33 PM »
You know exactly what I am driving at here. Quit being obtuse. Clemency was used purposely here since it's all encompassing. Whether general clemency or specifically a full pardon, the jist of your post was a philosophical "spirit of the rule" disagreement with the entire concept at the POTUS level. The more it's done, the worse - right?

Clemency is usually granted at the request/recommendation of a 3rd party.

I don't have a problem with that, generally.

Preemptive pardoning by the POTUS is not my bag and I disagree with it, regardless of who uses it.
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« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2024, 02:51:31 PM »
Errbody in this thread...it's the end of the year. Go play with some titties (or dicks, no judgement here), grab a goblet or glass, toast something, smoke some meat (not like Snags, like Joe at the tailgate), and touch some grass.

Both parties suck. Washington sucks. Montgomery sucks. Or wherever your state capital is.


Life's too gotdamn short and Bama is too poor for all this himing and hawing.
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« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2024, 04:42:59 PM »
Errbody in this thread...it's the end of the year. Go play with some titties (or dicks, no judgement here), grab a goblet or glass, toast something, smoke some meat (not like Snags, like Joe at the tailgate), and touch some grass.

Both parties suck. Washington sucks. Montgomery sucks. Or wherever your state capital is.


Life's too gotdamn short and Bama is too poor for all this himing and hawing.
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« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2024, 05:18:14 PM »
Errbody in this thread...it's the end of the year. Go play with some titties (or dicks, no judgement here), grab a goblet or glass, toast something, smoke some meat (not like Snags, like Joe at the tailgate), and touch some grass.

Both parties suck. Washington sucks. Montgomery sucks. Or wherever your state capital is.


Life's too gotdamn short and Bama is too poor for all this himing and hawing.

You know who doesn't suck? 

Donald J. Trump. 

The greatest president of any of our lifetimes. 

Suck on that.
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