Criminals…

[Kaos]

I won’t pardon Hunter, Jack. 
No one is above the law!

Oh. Yeah.  About that?  I’m gonna pardon him for everything for the last ten years.  You know, all the things that could implicate me. So suck it. 

And Wes supported this.  C’mon, son. There’s room for you on the Trump train.  Get aboard and enjoy all the winning that’s coming. 

[jmar]

What the left has done at the border is nothing short of a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

[GH2001]

Being sincere here and not flaming you Weskie. What are your thoughts on this?

Ive seen varying opinions from the Democrat side. Some of them I agree with and some I don't. Not interested in "2 wrongs making a right" or whataboutisms. Legit thoughts.

I'll hangup and lissen

[wesfau2]

Generally speaking, I don't think POTUS should have pardon power.

I think pardoning Hunter is a bit hypocritical, but since the incoming administration is swearing revenge and the R's have had a hardon for HB for a while now, I don't really fault him for trying to protect his son.  I also can't find an ounce of giveadamn about his gun charge.

Was weirdly silent around here when Trump went on a pardon spree at the end of his term, though.

[GH2001]

Generally speaking, I don't think POTUS should have pardon power.

I think pardoning Hunter is a bit hypocritical, but since the incoming administration is swearing revenge and the R's have had a hardon for HB for a while now, I don't really fault him for trying to protect his son.  I also can't find an ounce of giveadamn about his gun charge.

Was weirdly silent around here when Trump went on a pardon spree at the end of his term, though.

So just politics as usual as far as saying he wasn't (pre election) and then doing a 180 (post election)....simple as that? I think the 180 is what rubs many wrong and then it also being his son.

I am curious if Trump pardons Bannon and Rudy.

[wesfau2]

So just politics as usual as far as saying he wasn't (pre election) and then doing a 180 (post election)....simple as that?

Yes.  That's why I said it was hypocritical.

[Snakebite]

I'd protect my chirrens, too.  Just wouldn't have stated anything to the contrary when questioned on it. 

[jmar]

I promise not to be silent if DJT goes on a pardoning spree.

[wesfau2]

I'd protect my chirrens, too.  Just wouldn't have stated anything to the contrary when questioned on it.

Great, you're not gonna be a politician.

I promise not to be silent if DJT goes on a pardoning spree.

DJT: 237 pardons

Joe Biden: 27 pardons

Please maintain your silence.

[Snaggletiger]

George W. Bush:  200 pardons
Donald Trump:  237 pardons
Joe Biden:  27 pardons
Barack Obama:  1,927 pardons

Biden only has 27 so far, because he was napping through 90% of his time in office.

[wesfau2]

Biden only has 27 so far, because he was napping through 90% of his time in office.

There's plenty of criticism that's valid.  C'mon.

[Snaggletiger]

There's plenty of criticism that's valid.  C'mon.

74.3?

[jmar]

A few of us have slightly more than a passing interest in politics. It's noteworthy to point out that California Congressman Adam Schiff was at the root of every anti-Trump falsehood driven into the minds of everyday Americans with the aid of the fake legacy media.

Shifty easily won the Senate seat vacated by the retired Diane Feinstein and will begin as a freshman Senator as of tomorrow December 8, 2024.

[CCTAU]

I'd protect my chirrens, too.  Just wouldn't have stated anything to the contrary when questioned on it.

I said that to my wife when it happened. I would have done it, but I would have never said I wouldn't to begin with.
It’s the continual lying that rubs folks the wrong way.

[CCTAU]

Great, you're not gonna be a politician.


DJT: 237 pardons

Joe Biden: 27 pardons

Please maintain your silence.

Technically it was 144 pardons.
And didn’t he help out a couple of black rappers? Why do you hate black peoples?

[Kaos]

Generally speaking, I don't think POTUS should have pardon power.

I think pardoning Hunter is a bit hypocritical, but since the incoming administration is swearing revenge and the R's have had a hardon for HB for a while now, I don't really fault him for trying to protect his son.  I also can't find an ounce of giveadamn about his gun charge.

Was weirdly silent around here when Trump went on a pardon spree at the end of his term, though.

The bolded parts are outright lies, Mr. Maddow.  No one has sworn anything or promised revenge.  Hunter Biden (and his entire family), the Clintons, and Obama are among the most corrupt and dangerous people in human history.  And yet no one has “sworn” to go after them or is planning revenge.  Does their corruption need to be stopped?  You’re flipping skippy it does. 

As for the “pardon spree” you’re just WRONG.

Trump granted 237 acts of clemency during his four years in the White House, including 143 pardons and 94 commutations. Only two other presidents since 1900 – George W. and George H.W. Bush – granted fewer acts of clemency than Trump.

His predecessor, Barack Obama, granted clemency 1,927 times over the course of eight years in office, the highest total of any president going back to Harry Truman.

Maybe you remember BG03?  You’ve adopted his only tactic.  Question Bama’s corruption and his answer was always “well, what about when Auburn…”

It’s tired.  It’s stale. It’s weak.  Just like democrats.

[GH2001]

The bolded parts are outright lies, Mr. Maddow.  No one has sworn anything or promised revenge.  Hunter Biden (and his entire family), the Clintons, and Obama are among the most corrupt and dangerous people in human history.  And yet no one has “sworn” to go after them or is planning revenge.  Does their corruption need to be stopped?  You’re flipping skippy it does. 

As for the “pardon spree” you’re just WRONG.

Trump granted 237 acts of clemency during his four years in the White House, including 143 pardons and 94 commutations. Only two other presidents since 1900 – George W. and George H.W. Bush – granted fewer acts of clemency than Trump.

His predecessor, Barack Obama, granted clemency 1,927 times over the course of eight years in office, the highest total of any president going back to Harry Truman.

Maybe you remember BG03?  You’ve adopted his only tactic.  Question Bama’s corruption and his answer was always “well, what about when Auburn…”

It’s tired.  It’s stale. It’s weak.  Just like democrats.

Yeah was wondering where this narrative started on retribution. Sounds like a straw man. And I mean in the last few months. Where has Trump said he is coming for revenge on any of these pardonees? His camp has said they are not emphatically.

As far as holding people accountable that did stuff way out of line trying to prosecute him in the DOJ and on down the line, I have no issue with that. Legally, they need to be held accountable. Personal grievances with people he has said are in the past. I don't know what else his camp has to say to get that across.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lara-trump-responds-to-biden-mass-pardon-rumors-and-vows-trump-will-not-seek-revenge-he-has-no-intention-on-retribution/

[GH2001]

I said that to my wife when it happened. I would have done it, but I would have never said I wouldn't to begin with.
It’s the continual lying that rubs folks the wrong way.

That was kind of my point above which Wes actually agreed with - "hypocritical". Biden was running for re-election so yeah of course he isn't gonna come right out and say it. He honestly should have given "no comment". By saying he wasn't, he put himself in a no win situation. His two choices at that point are to either: leave his son hung out to dry OR be a hypocrite/liar. And he isn't going to feed his kid to the wolves.

[chinook]

Great, you're not gonna be a politician.


DJT: 237 pardons

Joe Biden: 27 pardons

Please maintain your silence.

update.

TIFWIW ...from FOX
Apparently Joe woke up or the handlers felt compelled to bail some friends...

"President Biden has commuted jail sentences for nearly 1,500 people and granted 39 pardons, marking the largest single-day act of clemency in modern history, the White House announced Thursday morning."

[GH2001]

1,500 people and granted 39 pardons, marking the largest single-day act of clemency in modern history

 Whoa