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Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?

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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2024, 10:38:10 AM »
Rehashing what's already been said, for the most part. 

Total coaching clusterfuck, on both sides of the ball:

1. If you can't see that Thorne doesn't perform well in games, and especially under pressure, you need your head examined.  Are any of the back ups better?  Who knows, but what's clear is that Thorne has become a detriment to the offense.

2. Whoever you put out there, you have to have the awareness to put the players in the best position to succeed.  If the D is bringing LB's every single play, you need to get the ball out the QB's hands in short order.  Everyone on this board can give you 5-6 ways to do that.  Apparently, those ways escaped you.

3. If the opposing QB is 36 for 36 in the first quarter, you may want to consider NOT rushing 3 down linemen and having them crash down inside every single play.  And you may want to consider making that adjustment BEFORE halftime.

I'm well aware that as fans, we always feel like we could call better games than the guys getting paid millions to do it.  But Saturday, a kindergartener with a fist full of Crayolas could have drawn up a better game plan than that shit.  Saturday was disturbing on a lot of levels. It's obvious that Thorne is not the answer.  But that stinking turd that was rolled out there Saturday sits squarely in the lap of Hugh Freeze and his staff. Doesn't matter who he puts out there if that's the best you can do. 
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2024, 11:23:26 AM »
If you can dress him down on the sidelines in a slaughter you ought to be able to pull him when your team needs a spark.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2024, 11:28:46 AM »
Someone say crayons?
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2024, 11:32:07 AM »
Someone say crayons?
I like cornflower and brick red.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2024, 11:45:38 AM »
I gave the kid all the benefit of the doubt in the world, but holy fucking christ on a crutch was that an awful performance.

I predict he gets a very short window in the NM game to produce or get the hook.

Also, WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THE IN-HELMET COMMS if someone can't shout in Payton's ear: CAM'S SHOULDER IS FUCKED.  DON'T THROW HIM THE BALL!?!?!?!?


Would it matter? 

I just saw where Thorne averages 126 yards per game in his 15 starts against FBS teams.  Pretty sure I could do that. 
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2024, 12:28:26 PM »
Rehashing what's already been said, for the most part. 

Total coaching clusterfuck, on both sides of the ball:

1. If you can't see that Thorne doesn't perform well in games, and especially under pressure, you need your head examined.  Are any of the back ups better?  Who knows, but what's clear is that Thorne has become a detriment to the offense.

2. Whoever you put out there, you have to have the awareness to put the players in the best position to succeed.  If the D is bringing LB's every single play, you need to get the ball out the QB's hands in short order.  Everyone on this board can give you 5-6 ways to do that.  Apparently, those ways escaped you.

3. If the opposing QB is 36 for 36 in the first quarter, you may want to consider NOT rushing 3 down linemen and having them crash down inside every single play.  And you may want to consider making that adjustment BEFORE halftime.

I'm well aware that as fans, we always feel like we could call better games than the guys getting paid millions to do it.  But Saturday, a kindergartener with a fist full of Crayolas could have drawn up a better game plan than that shit.  Saturday was disturbing on a lot of levels. It's obvious that Thorne is not the answer.  But that stinking turd that was rolled out there Saturday sits squarely in the lap of Hugh Freeze and his staff. Doesn't matter who he puts out there if that's the best you can do. 
I think the offensive line will improve as will the defense. A@M was no barometer. Now the staff can make the necessary adjustments week 2 to week 3. Should they have made in-game adjustments? Yes!
The best medicine is to give Hank Brown or another a shot. If they play well the rest of the team should respond. If you continue on this path however all of that positive energy about the new talent and recruiting momentum gets buried.
Cal thinks it can walk into Tuscaloosa and win.
 
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2024, 01:56:09 PM »

Would it matter? 

I just saw where Thorne averages 126 yards per game in his 15 starts against FBS teams.  Pretty sure I could do that.

Conclusion: He mid.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2024, 03:01:09 PM »
what's the big deal about being shitty one more season?  ...2025 is our year, right?   but don't mind the current WR group heading for Dr. Brown's portalizer...it's still going to be our year.  we run 5 deep at RB, unless we don't. 

we're any everything school anyway, well if you don't include the football program. 

hugh disaster is going to make us good in 2025. 
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« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2024, 03:41:24 PM »
what's the big deal about being shitty one more season?  ...2025 is our year, right?   but don't mind the current WR group heading for Dr. Brown's portalizer...it's still going to be our year.  we run 5 deep at RB, unless we don't. 

we're any everything school anyway, well if you don't include the football program. 

hugh disaster is going to make us good in 2025.


Sucking droopy butt holes should not be a normal occurrence for Auburn Football, yet here we are. We are going through the Tennessee trials of irrelevance, and have been for a few years.

I am one of the ones that likes Freeze, but holy shit at the lack of awareness & commitment to stubbornness. If shit isn’t working, try something different.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2024, 03:53:45 PM »
Conclusion: He mid.
He is.
And I don't care about his consistency in practice. Bo Jackson showed up on game day. Some kids just deliver when it counts.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2024, 04:08:47 PM »
He is.
And I don't care about his consistency in practice. Bo Jackson showed up on game day. Some kids just deliver when it counts.

Larger point though - swapping him out isn't going to automatically fix things. It's a fundamental, core, foundational issue. That doesn't get fixed in season.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2024, 04:42:42 PM »
Larger point though - swapping him out isn't going to automatically fix things. It's a fundamental, core, foundational issue. That doesn't get fixed in season.
It can make a huge difference on the scoreboard which is what you are able to control now. I'm not aware of or privy to any core or foundational issues that can't be remedied with some coaching as in O-line. The defense needs to play as a unit for several games. Many new faces in the secondary.

If you're speaking mostly of Freeze then I could only say he hasn't forgotten how to coach, nor has Durkin etc.

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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2024, 05:52:31 PM »
Larger point though - swapping him out isn't going to automatically fix things. It's a fundamental, core, foundational issue. That doesn't get fixed in season.

New record!  This is the 12th year in a row these same words have been spoken.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2024, 05:53:40 PM »
If you're speaking mostly of Freeze then I could only say he hasn't forgotten how to coach, nor has Durkin etc.

I submit that he never knew.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2024, 06:22:39 PM »
I submit that he never knew.
And I will add that the reason Gus is gone is bc he couldn't beat teams like Cal. I don't necessarily think Freeze is an upgrade over Malzahn... at least for now.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #55 on: September 10, 2024, 10:52:19 AM »
Conclusion: He mid.

Mid or Avg would be desirable for him. Thats all I ever hoped for. Be a game mgr. Use the weapons around him. Just don't LOSE games. But....Hes bottom barrel bad. Worst QB in the SEC at the moment.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2024, 12:05:51 PM »
Mid or Avg would be desirable for him. Thats all I ever hoped for. Be a game mgr. Use the weapons around him. Just don't LOSE games. But....Hes bottom barrel bad. Worst QB in the SEC at the moment.

And it's not even particularly close.  Fuck.
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Re: Time for Thorne to Get his Roses?
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2024, 12:48:14 AM »
Thorny burning bridges. 

Complaining to the media that fans are hitting him up on Venmo for refunds of bets they lost. 
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« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2024, 12:58:25 AM »
Thorny burning bridges. 

Complaining to the media that fans are hitting him up on Venmo for refunds of bets they lost.

Burning bridges with whom?
They already don’t like him. I propose it’s only fair to expose the shittiest of our fans.
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« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2024, 08:36:11 AM »
Burning bridges with whom?
They already don’t like him. I propose it’s only fair to expose the shittiest of our fans.

Right.  Because that’s a good look.   
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