What would it take?

[Snakebite]

Snake?  This guy is lost. 

He’s immersed in the lie.  I don’t know what happened to him. It’s hard to fathom.

One thing I do appreciate about Wes is that he at least will have the conversations that many folks on that side of the aisle won't have anymore.

He agrees with those people on EVERYTHING it seems, but he doesn't shy away from the sparring matches. 

[Snaggletiger]

This addresses Snake's equal opportunity vs. equal outcome.

In 2021, United Airlines released the following statement: “Our flight deck should reflect the diverse group of people on board our planes every day. That's why we plan for 50% of the 5,000 pilots we train in the next decade to be women or people of color.”

Yeah, I don't want the best pilot flying the plane I'm on.  I don't want the best doctor cutting me open.

[wesfau2]

One thing I do appreciate about Wes is that he at least will have the conversations that many folks on that side of the aisle won't have anymore.

He agrees with those people on EVERYTHING it seems, but he doesn't shy away from the sparring matches.

I have considered these positions.  This is the result of 46 (coming up on that next one) years of walking this planet, reading, learning (and unlearning a lot of shit that I took for gospel as a kid educated in Florida's panhandle in the 80's).

Despite K's protestations, I don't watch Maddow.  Or any cable news.  Shit, the only time live television is on in my house is for a sporting event. 

I know that our country is great, but could be so much greater.  We are tied to dying ideologies for the sake of enriching the uber-rich at the expense of the rest of us. 

[Snakebite]

I have considered these positions.  This is the result of 46 (coming up on that next one) years of walking this planet, reading, learning (and unlearning a lot of shit that I took for gospel as a kid educated in Florida's panhandle in the 80's).

Despite K's protestations, I don't watch Maddow.  Or any cable news.  Shit, the only time live television is on in my house is for a sporting event. 

I know that our country is great, but could be so much greater.  We are tied to dying ideologies for the sake of enriching the uber-rich at the expense of the rest of us.

Most of this nation's uber rich agree with your politics.  Why is that?

ETA: I do appreciate the genuine response.

[wesfau2]

Most of this nation's uber rich agree with your politics. 

They absolutely do not.  Line that out for me as well.

[Snakebite]

They absolutely do not.  Line that out for me as well.

Prominent figures:
Soros
Bezos
Dorsey
Zuck
Bloomberg
Cook
Gates
Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Guy
Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Bob Deniro
Almost all of Hollywood
Almost all MSM outlets
 

To name a few.

[wesfau2]

Prominent figures:
Soros
Bezos
Dorsey
Zuck
Bloomberg
Cook
Gates
Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Guy
Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Bob Deniro
Almost all of Hollywood
Almost all MSM outlets
 

To name a few.

Jesus, you wanna throw the Boogeyman in, too?

Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Guy
Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Bob Deniro
Almost all of Hollywood
Almost all MSM outlets

These aren't the "uber rich".

Soros
Bezos
Dorsey
Zuck
Bloomberg
Cook
Gates

Of these, the only that explicitly only supports Dem causes is Soros (and his reach is extremely overrated and the basis for a LOT of right-wing antisemitism).

The others are at best non-affiliated opportunists.  They exist beyond politics (though I'd argue that they've all been a net positive for right-wing content/messaging) and exist only to consolidate more fucking money to the detriment of all us plebes.

[Snaggletiger]

Guilty on all 34 counts.

[wesfau2]

Guilty on all 34 counts.

Damn, sometimes the system DOES work.  Noice.

Convicted felons can't vote in FL.  Just saying.

[Kaos]

One thing I do appreciate about Wes is that he at least will have the conversations that many folks on that side of the aisle won't have anymore.

He agrees with those people on EVERYTHING it seems, but he doesn't shy away from the sparring matches.

If you call shifting goalposts and regurgitating the "feelings" of the MSM conversation, perhaps. 

[Kaos]

Damn, sometimes the system DOES work.  Noice.

Convicted felons can't vote in FL.  Just saying.

Dark day for America, Wes.  The system didn't work. A rigged system delivered a pre-ordained outcome that had absolutely no basis in fact. This was no better than a banana republic style attempted takedown of a political rival by the tyrant class.

Even you should be able to see that.  I haven't even started law school yet, but I know that much.

None of this should stand up on appeal.

My guess is this kangaroo verdict will only make Trump stronger.  I think it is a grave miscalculation of the temperature of today's voting public. This won't endear anyone to the Biden camp.  In fact, I think enough people - you excluded, of course - will be shocked at the lengths to which the left has gone to attack Trump will give him an even greater advantage.  People are waking up to the fact that this is the continuation of a decade-long witch hunt.  Nothing more.

PS:  If you don't watch Madcow, why do you parrot her asinine diatribe almost verbatim?  How does that happen?

[Snaggletiger]

Dark day for America, Wes.  The system didn't work. A rigged system delivered a pre-ordained outcome that had absolutely no basis in fact. This was no better than a banana republic style attempted takedown of a political rival by the tyrant class.

Even you should be able to see that.  I haven't even started law school yet, but I know that much.

None of this should stand up on appeal.

My guess is this kangaroo verdict will only make Trump stronger.  I think it is a grave miscalculation of the temperature of today's voting public. This won't endear anyone to the Biden camp.  In fact, I think enough people - you excluded, of course - will be shocked at the lengths to which the left has gone to attack Trump will give him an even greater advantage.  People are waking up to the fact that this is the continuation of a decade-long witch hunt.  Nothing more.

PS:  If you don't watch Madcow, why do you parrot her asinine diatribe almost verbatim?  How does that happen?

100%

[wesfau2]

Dark day for America, Wes.  The system didn't work. A rigged system delivered a pre-ordained outcome that had absolutely no basis in fact. This was no better than a banana republic style attempted takedown of a political rival by the tyrant class.

Even you should be able to see that.  I haven't even started law school yet, but I know that much.

None of this should stand up on appeal.

My guess is this kangaroo verdict will only make Trump stronger.  I think it is a grave miscalculation of the temperature of today's voting public. This won't endear anyone to the Biden camp.  In fact, I think enough people - you excluded, of course - will be shocked at the lengths to which the left has gone to attack Trump will give him an even greater advantage.  People are waking up to the fact that this is the continuation of a decade-long witch hunt.  Nothing more.

PS:  If you don't watch Madcow, why do you parrot her asinine diatribe almost verbatim?  How does that happen?

When you can cogently detail the failings of the trial court I'll be happy to listen.  Until then, cult on.

[Kaos]

When you can cogently detail the failings of the trial court I'll be happy to listen.  Until then, cult on.

How many hours do you have?

Let’s start with the undefined crime. 

Move on to a judge who should have recused himself

Continue with his refusal to allow evidence that would rebut cohen’s testimony

Legal voices much smarter than you or I have stated there are literally hundreds of issues with the trial, the judge, and the way it was handled.

[War Damn Six]

Damn, sometimes the system DOES work.  Noice.

Convicted felons can't vote in FL.  Just saying.

Trump is registered in Florida, which gives felons the right to vote if the state where they were convicted allows it. New York only removes a felon’s right to vote while they are imprisoned.

Juridicanated. 

[wesfau2]

Trump is registered in Florida, which gives felons the right to vote if the state where they were convicted allows it. New York only removes a felon’s right to vote while they are imprisoned.

Juridicanated.

DeSantis scrubbed that shit.  The law was passed allowing felons to vote...then Ronnie BigBoots shut it down.

[wesfau2]

How many hours do you have?

Let’s start with the undefined crime. 

Move on to a judge who should have recused himself

Continue with his refusal to allow evidence that would rebut cohen’s testimony

Legal voices much smarter than you or I have stated there are literally hundreds of issues with the trial, the judge, and the way it was handled.

Inanity.

Cult on.

[War Damn Six]

DeSantis scrubbed that shit.  The law was passed allowing felons to vote...then Ronnie BigBoots shut it down.

I am seeing that as long as he has completed his sentence, he can vote. 

Doesn’t really matter, one vote isn’t going to cause the difference. 

For the record, I think a lot more political figures should be tried and convicted if this is the standard.  Also, I think this was a huge miscalculation by the Democrats.  I have friends that were not going to vote for Trump but are now doing so to keep from living in a banana republic. 

I think that we should elect a whole new group of people to Congress and get rid of the ones in there now on both sides of the aisle.  Same goes for the top spot.  I don’t want either of these idiots.  Unfortunately, that’s a pipe dream.

[Kaos]

Inanity.

Cult on.

I should give up.  You can’t be redeemed.

Go ahead.  Vote for Marxists.  Vote for socialism. Vote for child mutilation.  Vote for murder.  Vote for pedophilia. Tell yourself you’re “saving” the country. 

Unreal.

[WiregrassTiger]

I am seeing that as long as he has completed his sentence, he can vote. 

Doesn’t really matter, one vote isn’t going to cause the difference. 

For the record, I think a lot more political figures should be tried and convicted if this is the standard.  Also, I think this was a huge miscalculation by the Democrats.  I have friends that were not going to vote for Trump but are now doing so to keep from living in a banana republic. 

I think that we should elect a whole new group of people to Congress and get rid of the ones in there now on both sides of the aisle.  Same goes for the top spot.  I don’t want either of these idiots.  Unfortunately, that’s a pipe dream.

The only part I am different about is that I am drinking the MAGA Kool aid. Which, if you had known me before 2016, would surprise you. I despised everything about Trump. He was my 4th choice out of all republicans.

Now? I see him as Reaganesque. Regardless how sincere he is (which may be less than 50%) the motherfucker get things done. I would never want to work for him. But I would want him to run my company. He is so good that he threatens the deep state so the intelligence community operatives are on the same side as China and the DNC. They were a part of Jan 6th because of Trump. They had suitcases of votes and busted water mains because of Trump. They had a fucking worldwide pandemic…you guessed it.

It came from Chynnna.