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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #160 on: April 23, 2024, 11:41:30 AM »
I'm talking about anyone who espouses absolute bunk.  Complete fabrications and lies deserve no quarter.  Regardless of who is putting it out there.  Unfortunately the entirety of the R identity is currently built upon such falsehoods.
What do you identify as?
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« Reply #161 on: April 23, 2024, 12:04:03 PM »
It begins mostly with "The Big Lie" and once folks internalize that one, they swallow the rest of them because they don't want to admit to being duped.

Is 2+2=4 supposed to be the big lie?

I am happy to admit when I am wrong.  All I care about is truth & the well-being of U.S. citizens.

There are some issues that you and I would definitely agree on such as: taking care of our planet, providing healthcare for all, social programs that help those in need (with the caveat that they get back on their feet in a designated period of time), and a few more I am sure.  I have gotten more conservative as I have aged, though.

What troubles me are the things that you are parading as truth.

1. No such thing as cancel culture.
2. Russian collusion happened.
3. Trump being a threat to democracy with examples of stuff the current administration is actually doing.

Just am genuinely having a hard time grasping your line of reasoning & some of the mental gymnastics you're having the perform to try to convince us that the blue cat is, in fact, yellow. 
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #162 on: April 23, 2024, 12:53:24 PM »


At this point, no one believes Biden was actually elected.

Yes, actually the majority of the country does.

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So do we really have meaningful elections now?

Yes.  The last election was the most litigated/scrutinized and there were no significant irregularities.  In fact, the bulk of the "voter fraud" was republicans voting multiple times.

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The Biden administration/left continues to use the DOJ to try and squelch Trump.

Enforcing the law isn't trying to "squelch" him. 
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #163 on: April 23, 2024, 12:58:13 PM »
Is 2+2=4 supposed to be the big lie?

Rigged Election and No Insurrection are the lies, mostly the former but you can't have one without the other as the song goes.

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1. No such thing as cancel culture.

No one is getting "cancelled."  They are experiencing negative consequences of saying stupid and shitty things, but that's what the 1st is all about: you can say it, but you're not free from the consequence of it.

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2. Russian collusion happened.

Mueller said exactly that.  The problem is the semantic muddying of the use of "collusion."  You're correct, no one was charged with "collusion" because that doesn't exist as a crime.  Plenty of folks have been indicted/charged/convicted for improperly mediating between various russians and the Trump campaign.  Call that what you like, but it's fucking wrong.

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3. Trump being a threat to democracy with examples of stuff the current administration is actually doing.

Specifically what?  Every infringement on our rights has been by extremist xtian legislators and the sold-out shit weasels on the SCOTUS.
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« Reply #164 on: April 23, 2024, 01:37:23 PM »
Rigged Election and No Insurrection are the lies, mostly the former but you can't have one without the other as the song goes.

You can understand why it would be hard to believe that Biden broke records in the popular vote.  I hope so at least.

No one is getting "cancelled."  They are experiencing negative consequences of saying stupid and shitty things, but that's what the 1st is all about: you can say it, but you're not free from the consequence of it.

There is an obvious attempt to enforce certain ideological speech.  There are countless examples, and dissenting opinions are labeled as hate speech.

Mueller said exactly that.  The problem is the semantic muddying of the use of "collusion."  You're correct, no one was charged with "collusion" because that doesn't exist as a crime.  Plenty of folks have been indicted/charged/convicted for improperly mediating between various russians and the Trump campaign.  Call that what you like, but it's fucking wrong.

I dislike the practice of using resources to dig up dirt on opponents.  In a perfect world, candidates would be elected based off policy, character, and merit alone.  I can all but guarantee that "collusion" happens on both sides.

Specifically what?  Every infringement on our rights has been by extremist xtian legislators and the sold-out shit weasels on the SCOTUS.

Weaponization of OSHA, a government agency, to enforce vaccine mandates as an example.  An obvious attempt near every election cycle to throw whatever they think can stick against Trump.  It's obvious it is all very politically driven to me.  That said, I don't think he is a man of high character.  All this stuff is bullshit that wouldn't see the light of day if he didn't have a shot to land the presidency.


Since we are speaking on objective truths, I wanted to pick your brain on a couple more things:

1. How many genders are there?
2. Is capitalism bad for America?
3. Should people be jailed for things that they say that do not incite violence?
4. Should children have a say in gender reassignment?
5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where?
6. What conservative values to do you personally hold?

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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #165 on: April 23, 2024, 01:58:35 PM »

Since we are speaking on objective truths, I wanted to pick your brain on a couple more things:

1. How many genders are there? It's a spectrum.
2. Is capitalism bad for America? Not inherently, but the current iteration of it here in the US is not sustainable.
3. Should people be jailed for things that they say that do not incite violence? This is too broad, but I'm going to say that stochastic terrorism (even directed at a single person) should be actionable, yes.
4. Should children have a say in gender reassignment? A say, in coordination with their parents and physicians.
5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where?  Yes.  Start with the interstate system if you somehow do not believe this objective truth, but it's ubiquitous due to the nature of the origination, management and funding of those institutions.
6. What conservative values to do you personally hold?  You're going to have to be specific.  Do you mean true conservatism or the bastard, mutant child that is the republican party that erroneously calls themselves "conservative"?
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #166 on: April 23, 2024, 03:11:02 PM »

Are there any plans by your party to color code the gender spectrum in order for faster identification?

How much notice does a man need to give before he decides to start sucking cock. Big long and hard ones.

I’m wanting to know in case someone asks me.


Are the gender regulations the same for the blacks?

If color coded, are you going with pink? And if so, what shade?

Thank you for all that you do for the transgenders.
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2024, 03:15:46 PM »
You can understand why it would be hard to believe that Biden broke records in the popular vote.  I hope so at least.

There is an obvious attempt to enforce certain ideological speech.  There are countless examples, and dissenting opinions are labeled as hate speech.

I dislike the practice of using resources to dig up dirt on opponents.  In a perfect world, candidates would be elected based off policy, character, and merit alone.  I can all but guarantee that "collusion" happens on both sides.

Weaponization of OSHA, a government agency, to enforce vaccine mandates as an example.  An obvious attempt near every election cycle to throw whatever they think can stick against Trump.  It's obvious it is all very politically driven to me.  That said, I don't think he is a man of high character.  All this stuff is bullshit that wouldn't see the light of day if he didn't have a shot to land the presidency.


Since we are speaking on objective truths, I wanted to pick your brain on a couple more things:

1. How many genders are there?
2. Is capitalism bad for America?
3. Should people be jailed for things that they say that do not incite violence?
4. Should children have a say in gender reassignment?
5. Is there a such thing as institutional racism? If so, where?
6. What conservative values to do you personally hold?
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2024, 04:16:28 PM »
It’s hard to keep up with the weirdo claims of the left.
Most of us are trying to figure out how you have an insurrection with zero arms.
It’s the only insurrection in history to haven take place by unarmed individuals.
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #169 on: April 23, 2024, 05:11:00 PM »
WT notwithstanding, there are two genders, and only two.  Male and female.  XY and XX chromosomes. With the exception of a few sea horses and starfish, one has a cock, and one has a vaj.  It's that way in horses, pigs, deer, cats, dogs, mice, penguins, otters, moosens, geeses, frogs and humans.  Has been since creation, or the beginning of our world with a big bang, whichever you believe in. 

There is no spectrum, except a shitty cable company that charges way too much and forced me to go Youtube TV.  You can choose to play dress up, cut shit off yourself, take hormones, reduce hormones, and call yourself whatever the fuck you want.  More power to you. Live your life.  You can "feel" like a man trapped in a woman's body, or vice versa.  But you are still either male or female.  Nobody can be forced to participate in your fantasy world.

Children cannot smoke, drink, vote, join the military or buy a dirty magazine until they reach a certain age. Doesn't matter if their parents think it's okay.  It's against the law.  And any parent or doctor who participates in helping a child "transition", whether it be through surgery, hormones or otherwise, needs to be under the F'n jail.
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #170 on: April 23, 2024, 05:49:29 PM »

Most of us are trying to figure out how you have an insurrection with zero arms.


This is the shit I'm talking about.  There have been multiple convictions on weapons/guns violations.

This vacation from reality is the fucking problem. 
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #171 on: April 23, 2024, 05:51:18 PM »
WT notwithstanding, there are two genders, and only two.  Male and female.  XY and XX chromosomes. With the exception of a few sea horses and starfish, one has a cock, and one has a vaj.  It's that way in horses, pigs, deer, cats, dogs, mice, penguins, otters, moosens, geeses, frogs and humans.  Has been since creation, or the beginning of our world with a big bang, whichever you believe in. 

There is no spectrum, except a shitty cable company that charges way too much and forced me to go Youtube TV.  You can choose to play dress up, cut shit off yourself, take hormones, reduce hormones, and call yourself whatever the fuck you want.  More power to you. Live your life.  You can "feel" like a man trapped in a woman's body, or vice versa.  But you are still either male or female.  Nobody can be forced to participate in your fantasy world.

Children cannot smoke, drink, vote, join the military or buy a dirty magazine until they reach a certain age. Doesn't matter if their parents think it's okay.  It's against the law.  And any parent or doctor who participates in helping a child "transition", whether it be through surgery, hormones or otherwise, needs to be under the F'n jail.

I love you, S.  I truly do.

But, the world is replete with examples (human and non) of gender fluidity.  I'm really sorry that this somehow makes a lot of people (only very recently) very uncomfortable.  But they are here.  They have been for thousands of years. 
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #172 on: April 23, 2024, 06:00:14 PM »
I love you, S.  I truly do.

But, the world is replete with examples (human and non) of gender fluidity.  I'm really sorry that this somehow makes a lot of people (only very recently) very uncomfortable.  But they are here.  They have been for thousands of years.

The wrong hole gets deeper and deeper
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #173 on: April 23, 2024, 06:14:29 PM »
The wrong hole gets deeper and deeper

Oh, man.  Let's have a parthenogenesis discussion.

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« Reply #174 on: April 23, 2024, 06:36:44 PM »
This is the shit I'm talking about.  There have been multiple convictions on weapons/guns violations.

This vacation from reality is the fucking problem.

Oh please. Not one inside the capitol! And the FBI agrees.
You chicken shits have never seen an armed insurrection.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/04/fact-check-fbi-says-bureau-didnt-recover-guns-capitol-riot/4578286001/
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Re: What would it take?
« Reply #175 on: April 23, 2024, 06:37:53 PM »
Oh, man.  Let's have a parthenogenesis discussion.

Never heard of that word and looked it up, but what I saw said it didn’t apply to mammals or humans?
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #176 on: April 23, 2024, 06:55:48 PM »
Yes, actually the majority of the country does.

Demonstrably false. 


Yes.  The last election was the most litigated/scrutinized and there were no significant irregularities.  In fact, the bulk of the "voter fraud" was republicans voting multiple times.

Demonstrably false.  Scrutinized by whom?  AOC?


Enforcing the law isn't trying to "squelch" him.

Untrue.  Bending laws and weaponizing the judicial system is what’s happening. 

You quoted a “DC court” earlier.  What a joke. 
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #177 on: April 23, 2024, 08:29:52 PM »
Holy shit.  Let’s all agree that both sides have lost their way.  Biden is a bumbling fool.  Trump is an idiot.  Kennedy can’t cobble together a sentence. 

 I am writing in a Kaos/Wes ticket.  I know both of your (semi) full names.
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #178 on: April 23, 2024, 09:11:22 PM »
Holy shit.  Let’s all agree that both sides have lost their way.  Biden is a bumbling fool.  Trump is an idiot.  Kennedy can’t cobble together a sentence. 

 I am writing in a Kaos/Wes ticket.  I know both of your (semi) full names.
. I wonder if they’ll make a new lectern for Wes or if they’ll bring out a step stool for him. I can see him up there talking to the press right now. In a bow tie and jacket. Looking just like a little man.

I think his first speech should be on gender fluidity. He can share how it has affected him in the butt.
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Re: What would it take?
« Reply #179 on: April 24, 2024, 09:23:56 AM »
I love you, S.  I truly do.

But, the world is replete with examples (human and non) of gender fluidity.  I'm really sorry that this somehow makes a lot of people (only very recently) very uncomfortable.  But they are here.  They have been for thousands of years.
I think this is really sweet.  Is your love strong enough to let S. stick it up your butt? You both are obviously fluid. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
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