What would it take?

[CCTAU]

Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past.  The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents.  He's telling you all this, explicitly.

As usual, the left makes these unfounded claims. Claims to actions that they themselves are already employing. Its sad really.

[Snaggletiger]

To K's point...

You have most media outlets, the 3 letter agencies, the justice department, most actors/musicians, and most West Coast tech CEOs all supporting your political ideologies.  If anything, it is the exact opposite of what you are saying presently.  Nothing is stacked against the American left within the institutions mentioned above of political influence/power.

Exactly.  The NPR story is pretty much all you need to know about the media.

The current situation with Trump and all these bogus indictments, is exactly why I don't want the man in office. The left will stop at nothing to keep him out, and if he wins, get ready for more Russia Collusion hoaxes, and anything else they can drum up to cause utter chaos. It will be a circus, and one that may just be the thing that starts that civil war people are so scared about.

     

[wesfau2]

To K's point...

You have most media outlets, the 3 letter agencies, the justice department, most actors/musicians, and most West Coast tech CEOs all supporting your political ideologies.  If anything, it is the exact opposite of what you are saying presently.  Nothing is stacked against the American left within the institutions mentioned above of political influence/power.

Agreed that the fascist movement is a minority (even within the party), that is why it will be crucial for them to destroy the machinery should they obtain power.

[WiregrassTiger]

Which ones in particular?

He’s just worried that Trump is going to ban fag butt sex.

[Kaos]

Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past.  The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents.  He's telling you all this, explicitly.

I’m literally agog.  This is everything that has been happening since November of 2020.  None of it.  Not one iota of it done by Trump or republicans. 

What you fear is explicitly happening right now.  Right this very minute.  Targeting conservatives and anyone who supports Trump. N

[AUJarhead]

No, it will continue as a nation in name.  Our democratic institutions, however, will not survive.

Are you at all worried about the warrior caste within our military potentially being non-existent by 2028 should Biden win reelection?

[wesfau2]

Are you at all worried about the warrior caste within our military potentially being non-existent by 2028 should Biden win reelection?

The absolute least of my worries.

[Snakebite]

The absolute least of my worries.

I remember a time not long ago that liberals were champions of free speech.  Now they make concerted efforts to silence anyone with opposing views.

A large swath of today's liberals are actual fascists by definition, canceling and persecuting conservative voices on a large scale.  I am not grouping you in with that, but find it extremely ironic that you are prescribing that "fascist" title to conservatives.

I invite you back towards the center, where the goal is fidning common ground and moving this country in the best direction for both sides.  Not to benefit one side or the other.  Biden doesn't benefit average citizens like us.

[wesfau2]

I remember a time not long ago that liberals were champions of free speech.  Now they make concerted efforts to silence anyone with opposing views.

A large swath of today's liberals are actual fascists by definition, canceling and persecuting conservative voices on a large scale.  I am not grouping you in with that, but find it extremely ironic that you are prescribing that "fascist" title to conservatives.

I invite you back towards the center, where the goal is fidning common ground and moving this country in the best direction for both sides.  Not to benefit one side or the other.  Biden doesn't benefit average citizens like us.

The problem isn't so much "opposing views" it's the continued spouting of complete nonsense that is divorced from reality.  No one is under any obligation to engage with all that bad faith bullshit.

And "cancel" culture doesn't exist.  Stop it.

[CCTAU]

I invite you back towards the center, where the goal is fidning common ground and moving this country in the best direction for both sides.  Not to benefit one side or the other.  Biden doesn't benefit average citizens like us.

Sadly there is no center any more. You either crush the left or get crushed by their whacked out policies.
As you can see by his response, all of the blame is squarely on the "bad faith". I am sure he's talking about the "bad faith" of the left...right?

[wesfau2]

I am sure he's talking about the "bad faith" of the left...right?

I'm talking about anyone who espouses absolute bunk.  Complete fabrications and lies deserve no quarter.  Regardless of who is putting it out there.  Unfortunately the entirety of the R identity is currently built upon such falsehoods.

[CCTAU]

I'm talking about anyone who espouses absolute bunk.  Complete fabrications and lies deserve no quarter.  Regardless of who is putting it out there.  Unfortunately the entirety of the R identity is currently built upon such falsehoods.

You have literally espoused lies about Trump in this very thread. Lies attributed to Trump that accurately describe the current administration. You must really despise yourself...

[AUJarhead]

The absolute least of my worries.

Odd that you're worried about institutions except the one that provides the blanket of security to allow you to worry about the others.

[wesfau2]

Odd that you're worried about institutions except the one that provides the blanket of security to allow you to worry about the others.

What I mean is that system is entirely overfunded and able to withstand normal administrative regime change for the most part.

[Kaos]

And "cancel" culture doesn't exist.  Stop it.

What day did you divorce reality? 

[wesfau2]

You have literally espoused lies about Trump in this very thread. Lies attributed to Trump that accurately describe the current administration. You must really despise yourself...

Which?  Provide evidence.

[Snakebite]

What day did you divorce reality?

It was an asinine statement. Ego and tribalism sure can cloud and twist truth.

Not that I am some authority on truth, but some of this stuff is 2+2=4, and we are seeing an argument that it should equal 5.

[wesfau2]

It was an asinine statement. Ego and tribalism sure can cloud and twist truth.

Not that I am some authority on truth, but some of this stuff is 2+2=4, and we are seeing an argument that it should equal 5.

It begins mostly with "The Big Lie" and once folks internalize that one, they swallow the rest of them because they don't want to admit to being duped.

[CCTAU]

Which?  Provide evidence.

If Trump is elected, in your own words:

Meaningful elections will be a thing of the past.  The law enforcement/justice system will be weaponized against political opponents.  He's telling you all this, explicitly.

At this point, no one believes Biden was actually elected. Democrats did that. So do we really have meaningful elections now? Not on Trump. The Biden administration/left continues to use the DOJ to try and squelch Trump. Again, not Trump.

Yet here you are...

[WiregrassTiger]

Fentynal deaths and brazen strong arm robberies (disguised as “shoplifting”) are at an all time high.

Inflation makes living as difficult as I’ve seen it since Jimmy Carter.

The stock market has thankfully not shown as much crash but it’s likely to follow.

Illegal aliens are crashing over the few National Guardsmen that Biden FINALLY brought in (too few and too late) to slow the #bidenbordercrisis. 8 MILLION since Sniffy was installed.

And the Smnowflakes are worried about hush money and porn stars but mostly…The Donald.

As usual, they are hoeing in the flower bed while the hay barn is on fire.