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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2023, 10:20:03 AM »
market tuck friendly swimsuits to kids

Patently false.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2023, 10:23:18 AM »
Patently false.
What is false about this?
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2023, 10:28:35 AM »
Patently false.

keep towing that company line...bro.

Yeah we can get into semantics here if you want - yes, the swimsuits were for adults. Placed right next to clothes and other items for kids. At the front of the store (since removed from many).

But overall? You're missing the bigger point. You have an outside view of this not having young kids who see this stuff day in and day out. But the business side of this was the bigger point being made here.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2023, 10:29:07 AM »
What is false about this?

hes "lawyersmithing" the words. He knows this.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2023, 10:35:17 AM »
hes "lawyersmithing" the words. He knows this.
If claiming it’s not targeting kids, then why call it “tomboy”?

They were going after kids. Obviously, they didn’t specifically say that.

I’m not against tucking underwear. I’d like some for myself.

Not for the same reason that Wes supports it. Simply to camouflage my enormous dong so that it won’t be so obvious.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2023, 10:47:11 AM »
keep towing that company line...bro.

Yeah we can get into semantics here if you want - yes, the swimsuits were for adults. Placed right next to clothes and other items for kids. At the front of the store (since removed from many).

But overall? You're missing the bigger point. You have an outside view of this not having young kids who see this stuff day in and day out. But the business side of this was the bigger point being made here.

Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2023, 10:55:42 AM »
Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.
Whose tuck pouch are you calling little? Maybe yours, sure.
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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2023, 11:10:10 AM »
Conservative, Bible Thumping dumbass Kevin O' Leary chimes in.....oh wait, he's Libertarian, and he's not a dumbass. He's also a businessman, and gets it.

Good underrated part of this is bolded.....like he said, diversity, equity - all those buzzwords organically fall under labor laws and the Civil Rights Acts anyway. On their face value, it's not an issue. But at some places that have gone to the extreme, it's what they've done with their power. When you think it's a good idea to market tuck friendly swimsuits to kids, you've gone too far with the core of the American population.

Side note, I was actually unaware of the Mount Rushmore thing. Also nuts.

not sure i got a lot out of the article other than diversity boards are made up of everyone but white, conservative and practical minded people. 
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2023, 11:14:28 AM »
not sure i got a lot out of the article other than diversity boards are made up of everyone but white, conservative and practical minded people.

Some of them are abusing their power - being driven by ideology. And it's costing them. That's what I got.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2023, 11:17:25 AM »
And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.

you may want to do a little research on retail psychology and marketing especially when it comes to kids. It's been happening in the cereal aisle for decades, although mostly harmless....even small details like colors, shelf heights.....they know what they're doing. The product doesn't have to be for kids, to be marketed towards kids. Normalization is the goal here. Don't be an oblivion.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2023, 11:18:25 AM »
you may want to do a little research on retail psychology and marketing especially when it comes to kids. It's been happening in the cereal aisle for decades, although mostly harmless....even small details like colors, shelf heights.....they know what they're doing. The product doesn't have to be for kids, to be marketed towards kids. Normalization is the goal here. Don't be an oblivion.

What product terrifies you for the kids' sake?  The adult female swimsuit that has had the same design for decades?  That was the detail you latched onto: the "tuck" pouch...designed for adult women's genitals.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2023, 11:18:34 AM »
Do you know the purpose of the little tuck pouch?  It's not trans-focused. 

And, FYI, semantics aren't what you're dealing in here.   You're just wrong.

please tell. 

regardless of it all it did no favors to Target. 
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« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2023, 11:19:48 AM »
Some of them are abusing their power - being driven by ideology. And it's costing them. That's what I got.

wasn't serious. 
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2023, 11:43:51 AM »
What product terrifies you for the kids' sake?  The adult female swimsuit that has had the same design for decades?  That was the detail you latched onto: the "tuck" pouch...designed for adult women's genitals.
That would have to be one hell of a clit.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2023, 11:54:25 AM »
That would have to be one hell of a clit.

The little man in the canoe.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2023, 11:57:17 AM »
What product terrifies you for the kids' sake?  The adult female swimsuit that has had the same design for decades?  That was the detail you latched onto: the "tuck" pouch...designed for adult women's genitals.

if its that normal, then why a special section? Why the overreaching attention in a huge display at the front of a store? It had a purpose whether you wanted it or not... I have never in my life seen a label getting into the details of tucking genitals. But.....

The real question here because I know you aren't dumb Wes.....do you honestly think they did NOTHING wrong - from a cultural standpoint or a business standpoint? Is the market capitalization drop just pretend and is everyone else just wrong, and you and this small minority right?

"How" it was presented was a dumb dumb idea for the very reasons O'Leary pointed out. I don't knee jerk to teeny nothing burgers. A lot of the fringe MAGA crowd on social media with the "fuel on fire" pundits (Shapiro, Kirk, Loomer) DO tend to do that. I do think Target took it too far in HOW they decided to do this. Front, Center, Loudly.

That's all I'm sayin my dude.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2023, 12:07:12 PM »
if its that normal, then why a special section? Why the overreaching attention in a huge display at the front of a store? It had a purpose whether you wanted it or not...

The Pride section?  Because lots of people celebrate. 

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I have never in my life seen a label getting into the details of tucking genitals. But.....
 

I worked retail at Alvin's Island as a teen.  I was in the swimwear department on the daily.  I have heard/seen the discussions about how to use the pouch passed on from mom/older sister to daughter/younger sister.

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The real question here because I know you aren't dumb Wes.....do you honestly think they did NOTHING wrong - from a cultural standpoint or a business standpoint? Is the market capitalization drop just pretend and is everyone else just wrong, and you and this small minority right?

I'm still at a loss to understand what the perceived "wrong" is. 


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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2023, 12:12:23 PM »
I'm still at a loss to understand what the perceived "wrong" is.

It's an unprecedented market drop. That's way more than a fringe, knee jerk MAGA crowd doing that.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2023, 12:13:47 PM »
It's an unprecedented market drop. That's way more than a fringe, knee jerk MAGA crowd doing that.

Honestly trying to flesh our your grievance here.  Who's wronged?  The corporation?  The shareholders? 

Re-read your post above.  No, I don't think there is any "cultural" wrong being committed here.  I'll let you address the business aspect.
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Re: Pride Month
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2023, 12:44:57 PM »
The Pride section?  Because lots of people celebrate. 
 

I worked retail at Alvin's Island as a teen.  I was in the swimwear department on the daily.  I have heard/seen the discussions about how to use the pouch passed on from mom/older sister to daughter/younger sister.

I'm still at a loss to understand what the perceived "wrong" is.
what in the fuck does this mean? Are you using the correct pronouns?

How can a daughter use a tuck pouch? Unless it’s an abnormally huge clit.

Re the stock loss, someone is responsible for a shitty campaign. Just like the bud light fag on a can. If it fucks with the stock price, the investors care.
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