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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2020, 03:53:51 PM »
Truth.  And the first two offensive plays this past Saturday were typical of how he's misused.  Two consecutive sideways throws.  (I believe they were both to AS, frick me if I'm wrong)
And you haven't seen enough?  
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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2020, 04:01:39 PM »
Truth.  And the first two offensive plays this past Saturday were typical of how he's misused.  Two consecutive sideways throws.  (I believe they were both to AS, frick me if I'm wrong)
There should be a minimum of four deep balls to him each game. He would need an assistant just to follow him around and carry his tongue if it were me!
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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2020, 04:14:47 PM »
There should be a minimum of four deep balls to him each game. He would need an assistant just to follow him around and carry his tongue if it were me!
To me, it's a matter of getting him the ball while he's at or near full speed.  Yes, the deep balls, but also slants and drag routes where he's already accelerated and someone has to keep up with him.  Throwing bubble screens and whatever the sam hill that second pass out to the side was, pretty much negates his speed.  I hate those passes, but if you're going to throw them, Stove seems to be your guy.  He has a knack for making people miss and getting that extra few yards.
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2020, 05:05:11 PM »
If so, then no matter the hire we're fudgeed forever.

Or at least until there is some shake up at Bama/Clem/OSU.

Sweet.

Might as well sit back and enjoy the football.  Let go of your expectations and enjoy the ride.
See, you get it. You have healthy expectations for this squad. Welcome to the "Sensible" side of the fanbase. Our cookies are chewy, but they are still cookies. :bar:
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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2020, 05:32:33 PM »
See, you get it. You have healthy expectations for this squad. Welcome to the "Sensible" side of the fanbase. Our cookies are chewy, but they are still cookies. :bar:
It's basically where I've been since Saban got his machine rolling in Tuscaloosa.

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« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2020, 08:30:47 AM »
It's basically where I've been since Saban got his machine rolling in Tuscaloosa.
There is some joy in knowing Saban has made Alabama fans incredibly miserable even when they win everything because they didn't do it perfectly. That's gotta suck.
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« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2020, 10:01:57 AM »
See, you get it. You have healthy expectations for this squad. Welcome to the "Sensible" side of the fanbase. Our cookies are chewy, but they are still cookies. :bar:
I feel like not expecting to see 22 retards trying to fuck a football against teams they should overmatch like USCe and Arkansas is pretty sensible.
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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2020, 01:01:06 PM »
Against my better judgment, I watched last night.  Speculative rumor that it might be the last game for manboob, so I figured I might as well take it in.  

Seeing it in person was FAR worse than what I had imagined it might be.  

Nobody needs to hear it, but that was as dysfunctional a football team as I've ever seen.  

Nix has regressed.  Significantly.  It's the Gus effect.  Name a single quarterback -- one -- that has improved under Gus.  There isn't one.  Nix has become a bitch. An unlikeable, unliked bitch who over-estimates his own talent.  Physically, he's as gifted as any other QB in the SEC and maybe more so.  But he's either unable to be coached or (most likely) uncoached.  Why most likely?  See Stidham, Johnson, Khalil, Kodi, etc. etc. etc. etc. 

There's no class on display.  Playing an awful Mississippi State team that had no reason to exist and they are jumping around, jawing and acting like clowns throughout. 

Disgusting. The whole episode was disgusting.  

I don't hate Gus as a person.  I think he's probably a good man. But he doesn't know how to do this $49 million job.  If you give me 1/3 of his salary I could give you the same results he's getting.  I think I could hire better assistants, though, so it might even be better. 

I hope he ends up somewhere like South Alabama or Southern Miss where he can learn how to be a coach.  But I've seen more than enough.  
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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2020, 02:23:01 PM »
Against my better judgment, I watched last night.  Speculative rumor that it might be the last game for manboob, so I figured I might as well take it in. 

Seeing it in person was FAR worse than what I had imagined it might be. 

Nobody needs to hear it, but that was as dysfunctional a football team as I've ever seen. 

Nix has regressed.  Significantly.  It's the Gus effect.  Name a single quarterback -- one -- that has improved under Gus.  There isn't one.  Nix has become a bitch. An unlikeable, unliked bitch who over-estimates his own talent.  Physically, he's as gifted as any other QB in the SEC and maybe more so.  But he's either unable to be coached or (most likely) uncoached.  Why most likely?  See Stidham, Johnson, Khalil, Kodi, etc. etc. etc. etc.

There's no class on display.  Playing an awful Mississippi State team that had no reason to exist and they are jumping around, jawing and acting like clowns throughout.

Disgusting. The whole episode was disgusting. 

I don't hate Gus as a person.  I think he's probably a good man. But he doesn't know how to do this $49 million job.  If you give me 1/3 of his salary I could give you the same results he's getting.  I think I could hire better assistants, though, so it might even be better.

I hope he ends up somewhere like South Alabama or Southern Miss where he can learn how to be a coach.  But I've seen more than enough. 
Yeah same. I know a couple of the scuffles were defending teammates esp the Schwartz/Stove thing but there was a ton of thug like antics and undisciplined behavior. That’s not us. I felt like our guys stooped to the level of miss state. There was no excuse for a team like miss state to hang with auburn for 3.5 quarters. I don’t gaf if they did it with uga too. 

- Gus is a good guy. He really is. He’s just not cut out for the meat grinder that is a major power 5 program. I don’t wish him any ill will and I hope he can go somewhere and do ok. But it’s obvious he will never be the caliber of coach to lead a program of this magnitude. 

- I do not like the attitude of this team. That starts with nix and Seth. I saw others acting this way as well last night. Even Schwartz lost his composure. Many would argue it was justified and maybe it was. Mccreary too. But it just reminded me a hair of chiziks last team in 2012. The attitude issues. Not. A. Fan. 

- Gus’ lockerroom dance shouldn’t change anything. Last nights win should not change anything. In regards to his job severity. But it may. That’s a shame. People that get caught up in one damn moment. One damn game. 

- in his defense, none of Gus’ lackings as a big time coach should take away the magic he had with cam or nick. Right coach/qb combo at the right time.  He gave us several great memories/games. For that I’m grateful to him. Hes ran an honest program. He’s generally a likeable guy. Players generally like him. He checks off every box except the actually coaching aspect and player dev. I’ll give him credit where due even though I generally have been underwhelmed by his ebb n flow mediocrity. 
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« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2020, 02:51:19 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2020, 02:52:44 PM »
According to the ESPNs, our beloved coarch Gustavo has been fired. Christmas has come early. 
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« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2020, 03:20:04 PM »
Wow
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« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2020, 03:35:01 PM »
Wow
What's "wow"?  

Gus is essentially our Mike Shula.  Good guy, not ready for the job.  Looked clueless a lot of the time.  Given a healthy contract based off a knee jerk reaction to some moderate success.  

Results over time weren't bad per-se, but there was a numbing mediocrity to it.  Fans had started to get apathetic because his program didn't stir them.  Time to cut bait or cut fish or whatever.  

Same.  

Why you "wow"?
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« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2020, 04:35:47 PM »
What's "wow"? 

Gus is essentially our Mike Shula.  Good guy, not ready for the job.  Looked clueless a lot of the time.  Given a healthy contract based off a knee jerk reaction to some moderate success. 

Results over time weren't bad per-se, but there was a numbing mediocrity to it.  Fans had started to get apathetic because his program didn't stir them.  Time to cut bait or cut fish or whatever. 

Same. 

Why you "wow"?

cubelic mentioned this on finebaum too. The apathy is actually more alarming than if fans were calling in irate. Means the fanbase just doesn’t care as much. That is bad. You cannot lose recruits and lose your fanbase. Next would have been the lockerroom. You can see the trajectory that was occurring.
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« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2020, 05:52:23 PM »
What's "wow"? 

Gus is essentially our Mike Shula.  Good guy, not ready for the job.  Looked clueless a lot of the time.  Given a healthy contract based off a knee jerk reaction to some moderate success. 

Results over time weren't bad per-se, but there was a numbing mediocrity to it.  Fans had started to get apathetic because his program didn't stir them.  Time to cut bait or cut fish or whatever. 

Same. 

Why you "wow"?
The wow is they actually got rid of him. He more than earned just surprised it happened and that it happened this quickly. 
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« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2020, 06:11:15 PM »
The wow is they actually got rid of him. He more than earned just surprised it happened and that it happened this quickly.
He was not Allen Greene’s  doing therefore that may have given Greene more leverage. I dunno. Just a theory. I have issues with Greene but not the same ones as Jacobs. I have to also think it’s no longer Harbert running the show over there. I used to get info on these things when lowder was still there but I have no idea other than Harbert and mcwhorter were Gus protestors  and Rane has been a stoops guy for a while.

the buyout was never an issue. Rane and Harbert are technically the states only two billionaire residents at 1.1b and 6.6b respectively. 
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« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2020, 07:13:01 PM »
Hearing the decision to fire Gus was made by the PTB before last night and the game outcome made no difference. Also hearing Hugh Freeze is the guy and they are just waiting for his COVID clearance.

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« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2020, 09:00:29 PM »
Hearing the decision to fire Gus was made by the PTB before last night and the game outcome made no difference. Also hearing Hugh Freeze is the guy and they are just waiting for his COVID clearance.
Great.  Let’s leave the Lusitania and swim over to the Titanic.

Would be the worst hire in the history of the program.  This kind of idiocy might push me over the edge permanently.
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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2020, 07:44:23 AM »
Great.  Let’s leave the Lusitania and swim over to the Titanic.

Would be the worst hire in the history of the program.  This kind of idiocy might push me over the edge permanently.

even worse is now Steele is getting a ton Of chatter by the 247 auburn mods. 
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2020, 08:13:46 AM »
even worse is now Steele is getting a ton Of chatter by the 247 auburn mods.
I could actually get onboard with this.  You don't give him the farm but you give him a respectable 5 year contract and turn him loose.  See where he stands after 2 years and go from there.  
For whatever reason we have always been more successful long term with defensive minded corches.
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