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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2020, 11:33:20 PM »
I was recruited by Perkins. I chose AU. Not a fan of the man. May he RIP.
He’s the epitome of “you don’t wanna be the man that follows the man”. 
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2020, 12:44:21 AM »
In just pure math 83 is close to 90. But at that age that kind of gap is a gift. And an eternity.

Edit: was told my someone who would know that ole Wayne is 82. Well shit. I just called him old. I’m gonna have to buy him some grits now at the Waffle House but I will recommend he put down the beam and Marlboro’s at his age. I do believe they are making him look old.
Well now, Wiregrass Tiger is now officially your bitch.  WT, prepare to swallow the GH schlong.  Beyotch!
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2020, 09:09:08 AM »
I was recruited by Perkins. I chose AU. Not a fan of the man. May he RIP.
Recruited to do what?
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2020, 09:29:56 AM »
I keep hearing from friends, friends of friends and reading internet comments about how Bama (and others) have ruined football, the iron bowl isn’t fun anymore because of Bama, etc etc. 

You fuckers must have forgotten about fear the thumb and the years that led up to that shit.  Seemed to be having a damn good time with the rivalry when y’all had t shirts every year about the streak and Tuberville was rubbing Bama’s nose in it.

Auburn owns the longest winning streak in the series since the 70s. 

It was fun for Auburn then and it’s fun for Bama now. Quit hiring shit coaches and blaming Bama for the misfortunes.
I don't know if you're being serious, but the two things are not comparable in any way whatsoever.  

In terms of competition, Auburn has been as (or possibly more) competitive with Alabama during Saban's run than any other team in the nation.  Saban's lost five games to Auburn since landing at the Crapstone. The last four years have been back and forth swaps.  I might be wrong and I'm not looking it up, but my memory is that LSU is the only other SEC team with more than two wins against Saban.  And only Ole Miss has two.  Every other team in the league is either 0 or 1. 

The ruination of football has nothing to do with the Iron Bowl, honestly.  It's the mind-numbing monotony of a few teams bludgeoning the majority of the schedule.  I'm sick of Clemson starting every year at 1 or 2 and then mauling the ACC (which freaking sucks).  I'm sick of seeing your Tahd perched in the top five no matter what and then abusing shit teams like Kentucky, Vandy, Arkansas, etc.  

And don't tell me "those teams should do better" because that's not the reality any more.  There are a lot of reasons for that (parking lots full of chargers and hummers, performance enhancers, "business decisions" among them, but not limited to just those).  

It's not fun because on most weekends it isn't competitive.  
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2020, 09:45:35 AM »
Recruited to do what?
To drive the cars from the used lot to the recruits houses, duh.
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2020, 11:29:00 AM »
To drive the cars from the used lot to the recruits houses, duh.

Ray demanded more of that than Pat....totes understandable. I'm with CCT there. 
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2020, 11:31:41 AM »
I don't know if you're being serious, but the two things are not comparable in any way whatsoever. 

In terms of competition, Auburn has been as (or possibly more) competitive with Alabama during Saban's run than any other team in the nation.  Saban's lost five games to Auburn since landing at the Crapstone. The last four years have been back and forth swaps.  I might be wrong and I'm not looking it up, but my memory is that LSU is the only other SEC team with more than two wins against Saban.  And only Ole Miss has two.  Every other team in the league is either 0 or 1.

The ruination of football has nothing to do with the Iron Bowl, honestly.  It's the mind-numbing monotony of a few teams bludgeoning the majority of the schedule.  I'm sick of Clemson starting every year at 1 or 2 and then mauling the ACC (which freaking sucks).  I'm sick of seeing your Tahd perched in the top five no matter what and then abusing shit teams like Kentucky, Vandy, Arkansas, etc. 

And don't tell me "those teams should do better" because that's not the reality any more.  There are a lot of reasons for that (parking lots full of chargers and hummers, performance enhancers, "business decisions" among them, but not limited to just those). 

It's not fun because on most weekends it isn't competitive. 

THAT ^^^ all of it. 

During the Thumb streak, those games were fun, competitive. Even our 2004 and 2010 seasons, we weren't just blowing through a cupcake schedule of lessers 55-14 every game. Those games were fun. Especially the IB and LSU games. 2004 LSU was one of the bestt games of all time to me. 2010 LSU was Cam's coming out party. Even the Ole Miss game we lost when Aromashadu dropped the winning TD in the end zone.....great game the loss aside. I miss those games. K is right.....it has very little to do with the IB, and everything to do with 3-4 NFL style teams running through everyone like a buzzsaw EVERY. DAMN. YEAR. 
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2020, 02:49:46 PM »
What's better for sports in general, having parity where everybody has at least a reasonable shot, or are "dynasties" more beneficial overall?  Is Major League Baseball better when the Yankees or Dodgers can simply outbid everyone for the best players and win 100+ games every year, or are salary caps the way to go where the Braves and Cheatin' Cards can make it to the show?
 
Years ago, College football limited the number of scholarships to 85 in part, to achieve some parity and not allow the Bama's and Notre Dames and USC's of the world to run 130 players out on the field and steamroll everybody 56-7.  The old saying, which was true, was that Bear Bryant used to sign guys he didn't need just so his rivals couldn't sign them. But even with that supposed parity, you still have the same teams year after year who are signing top 5 recruiting classes and the same handful of programs making the playoffs. 
 
So how is it that the same teams continue to prosper each and every year when there's only a limited number of scholarships to go around?  You could argue that teams like Bama and Ohio State have tradition and kids want to play for the highest profile programs.  Maybe that plays into it a little, but quite honestly, these kids don't give a fickity fuck about that.  You could say that certain programs are sending more players to the NFL, and that's the ultimate goal.  I can buy some of that; however, there's a huge difference in a program developing players to become NFL ready, and one that's simply signing 25 of the best high school players in the country every year, many of which are going to the show regardless of where they play college ball. 
 
So, let's target the juggernaut right here in our back yard. We complain that Gus doesn't "develop" players, but is Nick Saban really doing that?  How much development do you have to do with a 6'2" 235 pound running back who is pretty much NFL ready before he sets foot on your campus?  Do you have to develop Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle, Devonte Smith, Amari Cooper, Julio Jones etc. to become great wide receivers?  How hard is it to make the playoffs when you can literally put a 5* player at every position across your O-line each and every year? 
 
I’m not saying that it’s not attractive to the top players to go to a program winning championships and putting players in the NFL. But the program has to get to that point first.  Once Nick Saban set foot on campus, Alabama went from Brodie getting sacked 17 times in one game, to the #1 recruiting class every single year. In fact, I think they’ve only missed the #1 spot once in Saban’s tenure.  There was nothing attractive about that program.  They were coming off years of ineptitude.  But suddenly, it was THE destination for the best high school players in America?  And they’ve never looked back. Something had to happen.  There had to be something that changed procedurally.  Was it Nick Saban’s bubbly personality? Yeah, right.
 
I know why, and it’s the one reason that while college football is my #1 sports passion, I will forever be cynical as long as Saban is at the helm.    

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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2020, 02:53:20 PM »
What's better for sports in general, having parity where everybody has at least a reasonable shot, or are "dynasties" more beneficial overall?  Is Major League Baseball better when the Yankees or Dodgers can simply outbid everyone for the best players and win 100+ games every year, or are salary caps the way to go where the Braves and Cheatin' Cards can make it to the show?
 
Years ago, College football limited the number of scholarships to 85 in part, to achieve some parity and not allow the Bama's and Notre Dames and USC's of the world to run 130 players out on the field and steamroll everybody 56-7.  The old saying, which was true, was that Bear Bryant used to sign guys he didn't need just so his rivals couldn't sign them. But even with that supposed parity, you still have the same teams year after year who are signing top 5 recruiting classes and the same handful of programs making the playoffs. 
 
So how is it that the same teams continue to prosper each and every year when there's only a limited number of scholarships to go around?  You could argue that teams like Bama and Ohio State have tradition and kids want to play for the highest profile programs.  Maybe that plays into it a little, but quite honestly, these kids don't give a fickity fuck about that.  You could say that certain programs are sending more players to the NFL, and that's the ultimate goal.  I can buy some of that; however, there's a huge difference in a program developing players to become NFL ready, and one that's simply signing 25 of the best high school players in the country every year, many of which are going to the show regardless of where they play college ball. 
 
So, let's target the juggernaut right here in our back yard. We complain that Gus doesn't "develop" players, but is Nick Saban really doing that?  How much development do you have to do with a 6'2" 235 pound running back who is pretty much NFL ready before he sets foot on your campus?  Do you have to develop Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle, Devonte Smith, Amari Cooper, Julio Jones etc. to become great wide receivers?  How hard is it to make the playoffs when you can literally put a 5* player at every position across your O-line each and every year? 
 
I’m not saying that it’s not attractive to the top players to go to a program winning championships and putting players in the NFL. But the program has to get to that point first.  Once Nick Saban set foot on campus, Alabama went from Brodie getting sacked 17 times in one game, to the #1 recruiting class every single year. In fact, I think they’ve only missed the #1 spot once in Saban’s tenure.  There was nothing attractive about that program.  They were coming off years of ineptitude.  But suddenly, it was THE destination for the best high school players in America?  And they’ve never looked back. Something had to happen.  There had to be something that changed procedurally.  Was it Nick Saban’s bubbly personality? Yeah, right.
 
I know why, and it’s the one reason that while college football is my #1 sports passion, I will forever be cynical as long as Saban is at the helm.   
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2020, 02:57:17 PM »
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I'll give you the Cliff Notes.  It says WT has a small penis.
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2020, 03:51:49 PM »
I have no idea what it wa$ that had recruit$ crawling through broken gla$$ to get to Tu$caloo$a in 2007, 2008 or 2009 hone$tly.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2020, 04:06:14 PM »
I have no idea what it wa$ that had recruit$ crawling through broken gla$$ to get to Tu$caloo$a in 2007, 2008 or 2009 hone$tly.
Exactly my point.  But to take it a step further, there's no Sheriff in town.  Zero threat of any accountability, and this comes directly from one of their long time staff members.  The answer to my original question above is the NCAA wants/needs dynasties. They're making sure that happens.    
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2020, 06:48:15 PM »
Since you brought it up...fuck the store bought Dodgers. Stupid ass left coast fuckers. 
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Re: Perkins out
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2020, 09:25:09 AM »
Since you brought it up...fudge the store bought Dodgers. Stupid ass left coast fudgeers.
^^^This^^^
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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2020, 09:25:31 AM »
Since you brought it up...fuck the store bought Dodgers. Stupid ass left coast fuckers.
Your words have meaning, pale face.
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2020, 09:48:29 PM »
Exactly my point.  But to take it a step further, there's no Sheriff in town.  Zero threat of any accountability, and this comes directly from one of their long time staff members.  The answer to my original question above is the NCAA wants/needs dynasties. They're making sure that happens.   
The NCAA is full of bammers!
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