Fuck and Fakeiman

[Kaos]

So nobody heard about Joe Twaffle Buck and Troy Dickjowl Aikman ridiculing military flyovers?  

Even somebody who hasn't seen a single snap of any NFL game (or given a skinny fuck) heard about it.  

No thoughts?  No comments?  No disdain for the fact they were airing what appear to be anti-patriot and politically partisan commentary?  

I can tell you this,  had those two chode chuggers said "Man, these flyovers really give me a great feeling about this country, we'll see more great stuff like this in Trump's second term..." they'd both be off the air and having to hide from sky-screamers hurling literal feces at the door of their houses.  

Just another reason in the long list I'm glad I turned my back on that fuckshow and have no intention of ever EVER going back.  

Fuck them.  

[Snaggletiger]

I'll say that I know nothing about Buck or Aikman's past or politics, only what I know of their involvement in the spurts wurld.  Just posting what I ran across on the interwebz.  Now granted, this piece is from the super conservative publication, Sports Illustrated.  Wonder who the Man/Woman/Tranny of the Year will be?



Military Flyovers: TRAINA THOUGHTS
Author:Jimmy TrainaPublish date:4 hours ago

1. One of the dumbest sports media "controversies" rolls on with Joe Buck shedding light on what really happened in that leaked video.
If you read Traina Thoughts on Wednesday, you know a video of Buck and Troy Aikman sarcastically talking about military flyovers before Sunday's Packers-Bucs game ended up on the internet, with the duo taking heat from people who thought they were mocking the military. 
Aikman addressed the matter on Twitter on Tuesday night. Buck talked about the issue at length on the latest episode of his Daddy Issues podcast, which came out Thursday morning.

Buck explained the remarks he and Aikman made in the clip were actually said by people on their crew at a dinner the night before. Buck and Aikman were mocking those people, not the military.
Buck was asked by his Daddy Issues cohost, Oliver Hudson, whether Fox is trying to find out who leaked the audio clip. Here is Buck's answer to that question and his explanation for what happened, how it happened and why it happened:
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"That person will get found out because that specific shot of that flyover, which I personally thought was old and a tape that they were running out of our truck as furthering our conversation that we were having internally, I thought that was on tape,  but it was actually live, but it wasn’t a Fox shot. They know whose shot that was and therefore they kind of know where our audio was going at that moment. It wasn’t going on TV. It was well before our game.

"So I see this, and Troy in the microphone is repeating something that he heard the night before from an unnamed person on our crew. This person happens to be very far left and said, 'Well, under Biden-Harris, you know that's not going to happen,' and Troy was repeating that watching the flyover.


"So they clipped that as if he's saying that and as if he’s a Harris-Biden fan. But he’s repeating something that somebody said the night before, which is unbelievable.
"If you know Troy at all, he was being 100 percent sarcastic. Repeating for the person in the truck to hear, like 'Ha, ha, ha.'
"And then I go into a 1950s voice, like, 'There’s your hard-earned tax dollars at work,' or whatever. 
"Again, repeating parts of conversations to our crew and they clipped that and then run a headline that Troy Aikman and Joe Buck bash flyovers, which it had nothing to do with any of that.
"It was a political conversation amongst our group that somebody clipped and sold for the exact reason that we’re doing this. And it stirs people up. And words get weaponized. And then people have to weigh in. 'Oh, well, screw those guys. They don’t like the military.' WHAT?!"
Buck then went on to share some personal details he said he has never talked about publicly before.

"My dad earned a purple heart in World War II, was shot in Germany and was sitting in a hospital in Paris when WWII ended and saw Charles de Gaulle speak in Paris at the end of WWII. My grandfather was on a battleship in the Pacific in WWII. That’s my mom’s dad. I come from all that. Right on the down the line, that’s where my sensibilities are." 
Buck then added, "But the idea that this piece was clipped and was totally misrepresentative of how we feel, because I’ve always kept that stuff private, but it was a private conversation and having it with our group and then it gets sold as if those were our words, which is fine. It’s kind of dead and buried now, but that’s what happened. 


"And the frustrating part is if that was a 10-second window into my soul, that would be unfortunate. But when it’s not actually representing what actually happened, that makes it doubly frustrating because people are getting something totally out of context."

[wesfau2]

They're not wrong.

It's a silly misuse of assets and money.

The partnership between the military and pro sports is weird.

[Snaggletiger]

They're not wrong.

It's a silly misuse of assets and money.

The partnership between the military and pro sports is weird.

I can't speak to the relationship aspect of it, but the flyovers are not a misuse of assets and money.  They are used for close air support and Time on Target training.  They're also done for military recruiting, much like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds.

[Kaos]

They're not wrong.

It's a silly misuse of assets and money.

The partnership between the military and pro sports is weird.

You might as well be Taylor Swift or Selena Gomez at this point.  

[wesfau2]

I can't speak to the relationship aspect of it, but the flyovers are not a misuse of assets and money.  They are used for close air support and Time on Target training.  They're also done for military recruiting, much like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds.

Diff'rent strokes.

[Kaos]

I'll say that I know nothing about Buck or Aikman's past or politics, only what I know of their involvement in the spurts wurld.  Just posting what I ran across on the interwebz.  Now granted, this piece is from the super conservative publication, Sports Illustrated.  Wonder who the Man/Woman/Tranny of the Year will be?



Military Flyovers: TRAINA THOUGHTS
Author:Jimmy TrainaPublish date:4 hours ago

1. One of the dumbest sports media "controversies" rolls on with Joe Buck shedding light on what really happened in that leaked video.
If you read Traina Thoughts on Wednesday, you know a video of Buck and Troy Aikman sarcastically talking about military flyovers before Sunday's Packers-Bucs game ended up on the internet, with the duo taking heat from people who thought they were mocking the military.
Aikman addressed the matter on Twitter on Tuesday night. Buck talked about the issue at length on the latest episode of his Daddy Issues podcast, which came out Thursday morning.

Buck explained the remarks he and Aikman made in the clip were actually said by people on their crew at a dinner the night before. Buck and Aikman were mocking those people, not the military.
Buck was asked by his Daddy Issues cohost, Oliver Hudson, whether Fox is trying to find out who leaked the audio clip. Here is Buck's answer to that question and his explanation for what happened, how it happened and why it happened:
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"That person will get found out because that specific shot of that flyover, which I personally thought was old and a tape that they were running out of our truck as furthering our conversation that we were having internally, I thought that was on tape,  but it was actually live, but it wasn’t a Fox shot. They know whose shot that was and therefore they kind of know where our audio was going at that moment. It wasn’t going on TV. It was well before our game.

"So I see this, and Troy in the microphone is repeating something that he heard the night before from an unnamed person on our crew. This person happens to be very far left and said, 'Well, under Biden-Harris, you know that's not going to happen,' and Troy was repeating that watching the flyover.


"So they clipped that as if he's saying that and as if he’s a Harris-Biden fan. But he’s repeating something that somebody said the night before, which is unbelievable.
"If you know Troy at all, he was being 100 percent sarcastic. Repeating for the person in the truck to hear, like 'Ha, ha, ha.'
"And then I go into a 1950s voice, like, 'There’s your hard-earned tax dollars at work,' or whatever.
"Again, repeating parts of conversations to our crew and they clipped that and then run a headline that Troy Aikman and Joe Buck bash flyovers, which it had nothing to do with any of that.
"It was a political conversation amongst our group that somebody clipped and sold for the exact reason that we’re doing this. And it stirs people up. And words get weaponized. And then people have to weigh in. 'Oh, well, screw those guys. They don’t like the military.' WHAT?!"
Buck then went on to share some personal details he said he has never talked about publicly before.

"My dad earned a purple heart in World War II, was shot in Germany and was sitting in a hospital in Paris when WWII ended and saw Charles de Gaulle speak in Paris at the end of WWII. My grandfather was on a battleship in the Pacific in WWII. That’s my mom’s dad. I come from all that. Right on the down the line, that’s where my sensibilities are."
Buck then added, "But the idea that this piece was clipped and was totally misrepresentative of how we feel, because I’ve always kept that stuff private, but it was a private conversation and having it with our group and then it gets sold as if those were our words, which is fine. It’s kind of dead and buried now, but that’s what happened.


"And the frustrating part is if that was a 10-second window into my soul, that would be unfortunate. But when it’s not actually representing what actually happened, that makes it doubly frustrating because people are getting something totally out of context."

Different take.  Hadn't seen that.  

I heard what was said.  I thought it was atrocious.  If that's how it went down, then I take back some of my commentary.  

I will retain "twaffle" and "dickjowl" however.  Still doesn't make me want to watch any NFL. 

[AUJarhead]

They're not wrong.

It's a silly misuse of assets and money.

The partnership between the military and pro sports is weird.

Meh, 9 times out of 10, it's usually an ANG or USAFR pilot, and they are getting their flight hours in while doing it.  I don't have any problem with that. 

I read somewhere that for the Blue Angels to do a flyover of the Superbowl costs the government something like 60k, and it's money that comes out of training budget, so no additional funds are requested for, and money that would have been spent on fuel anyway, if they were doing it in the middle of April over anywhere in the country.

And as for partnership, it's all advertising/recruiting for the military.  

[Snaggletiger]

Different take.  Hadn't seen that. 

I heard what was said.  I thought it was atrocious.  If that's how it went down, then I take back some of my commentary. 

I will retain "twaffle" and "dickjowl" however.  Still doesn't make me want to watch any NFL.

I just started poking around, much like I do with Snagette after I get a few shots of hooch in her.  Again, I don't know either of their politics, maybe they've said some shit in the past that contradicts all this.  Either way, I'm sick of any kind of politics in sports.

[Snaggletiger]

Meh, 9 times out of 10, it's usually an ANG or USAFR pilot, and they are getting their flight hours in while doing it.  I don't have any problem with that. 

I read somewhere that for the Blue Angels to do a flyover of the Superbowl costs the government something like 60k, and it's money that comes out of training budget, so no additional funds are requested for, and money that would have been spent on fuel anyway, if they were doing it in the middle of April over anywhere in the country.

And as for partnership, it's all advertising/recruiting for the military. 

I can imagine the time on target training is invaluable.  Think about having to hit the top of the stadium at exactly, And the home of the bHOLY SHIT!!!!

[AUJarhead]

I can imagine the time on target training is invaluable.  Think about having to hit the top of the stadium at exactly, And the home of the bHOLY shoot!!!!

I got to fly in a f-18 simulator at El Toro, CA at MCAS El Toro, and in it, I put a bombing run on Dodger Stadium.

Sorry the Dodgers weren't in it.

[Snaggletiger]

I got to fly in a f-18 simulator at El Toro, CA at MCAS El Toro, and in it, I put a bombing run on Dodger Stadium.

Sorry the Dodgers weren't in it.

Ha!

I did an A-6 simulator and had to get the hell out.  I was about to simulate throwing up. 

[GH2001]

They're not wrong.

It's a silly misuse of assets and money.

The partnership between the military and pro sports is weird.

So is welfare. 

[CCTAU]

2015 lead plane. My college roommates last flyover before retirement. Worth every penny.

[AUJarhead]

2015 lead plane. My college roommates last flyover before retirement. Worth every penny.

I wish he could have dropped a bomb on our coach.

[dallaswareagle]

A&M game 2012 military fly over at half-time. A bombing and strafing run would have saved everybody the real pain of watching the second half of that game. And if you remember the plane missed flying directly over the stadium. 

I have no idea if they meant what they said, nor do I care. I am just so tired of every time somebody says something and gets called on it, they always seem to have some excuse.   Like somebody else said, it is just another reason for me to not watch.