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« on: December 09, 2019, 11:36:11 AM »
We now have added Lane Kiffen (for the lulz) and Sam Pittman (who?) to the SECW.

Other than the comedic content coming out of Oxford, what do we think of these hires?

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2019, 11:58:12 AM »
Kiffen is a head scratcher for me.  I mean great for him...He's Lane Kiffen and can hit lots of hot moms and daughters...Maybe even together.  If you are Ole Miss rebelsharkblackbears there is no upside that I can see outside of the trolling he seems to do to Saban.

Pittman seems like a really good hire for Arkansas.  Not sure that he will be the one that can ever get them to 10 win years but they can't worry about 10 win years yet.  They need to worry about 6 win years and he can be that guy.  Their brand is tarnished not only with the country but more so with the kids he needs to recruit.  By all estimations he is a players coach and Arkansas needs that now to have a chance of being anything other that the West's version of Vanderbilt.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 12:02:49 PM »
We now have added Lane Kiffen (for the lulz) and Sam Pittman (who?) to the SECW.

Other than the comedic content coming out of Oxford, what do we think of these hires?
I never heard of Steve Pittman either.  My one friend who is an Arkansas fan sent me a long (too long to read) justification of why this is the greatest hire in the history of CFB.  

He was the only good coach on Georgia's staff.  By hiring him, the Hogs are returning to the hard-nosed, big-boy brand of football that Coach Bert believed in.  

That was actually one of the big selling points -- Back to Bert.  Think about that for a minute. 

As for the comedy aspect?  I'm not getting that at all.  I think Kiffin's' a pretty creative troll and a hard-core mercenary.  I also think he's the best coach the Rebels have had in years.  Better than Cutcliffe.  Better than Freeze. Better than Brewer. He might make a mess of it, but my bet is that (maybe not next year, but soon) the Rebel Black Bear Sharks will become a really tough out.   He's also arriving at the right time.  Orgeron's magic has to be short-lived (doesn't it?).  Saban has to wane (doesn't he?).   State is stuck with Doughy Joe.  Arkansas just went back to Bert. Gus still hasn't yanked his head out of his ass and Steele won't be there forever.  Maybe I'm misreading the grass patterns, but I think there's going to be a void in the SEC that a Kiffin-led psychotic team could fill. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2019, 12:14:57 PM »
I like the move for Arkansas because they didn't try to win the press conference. I'm sure Pittman wasn't tops on their list, but with this, they acknowledge that this rebuild should start with the lines. That's not a bad move. They are going to be bad next year but in year two, there should be improvement. 

Over/under on the number of years Kiffin lasts in Oxford vs. the number of NCAA violations he is reported for (probably by Saban)? 
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2019, 12:16:56 PM »
I never heard of Steve Pittman either.  My one friend who is an Arkansas fan sent me a long (too long to read) justification of why this is the greatest hire in the history of CFB. 

He was the only good coach on Georgia's staff.  By hiring him, the Hogs are returning to the hard-nosed, big-boy brand of football that Coach Bert believed in. 

That was actually one of the big selling points -- Back to Bert.  Think about that for a minute.

As for the comedy aspect?  I'm not getting that at all.  I think Kiffin's' a pretty creative troll and a hard-core mercenary.  I also think he's the best coach the Rebels have had in years.  Better than Cutcliffe.  Better than Freeze. Better than Brewer. He might make a mess of it, but my bet is that (maybe not next year, but soon) the Rebel Black Bear Sharks will become a really tough out.  He's also arriving at the right time.  Orgeron's magic has to be short-lived (doesn't it?).  Saban has to wane (doesn't he?).  State is stuck with Doughy Joe.  Arkansas just went back to Bert. Gus still hasn't yanked his head out of his ass and Steele won't be there forever.  Maybe I'm misreading the grass patterns, but I think there's going to be a void in the SEC that a Kiffin-led psychotic team could fill.
Whow whow, Kiffin better than Cutcliffe?  Not in a bazillion years.  Cutcliffe is a hell of a coach and they were stupid for firing him.  Kiffin has left ashes at all the Major programs he has been hired at.  Maybe that will change, but he isn't better than Cutcliffe or Freeze IMO...not at all, not at this point.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2019, 12:21:16 PM »
I never heard of Steve Pittman either.  My one friend who is an Arkansas fan sent me a long (too long to read) justification of why this is the greatest hire in the history of CFB. 

He was the only good coach on Georgia's staff.  By hiring him, the Hogs are returning to the hard-nosed, big-boy brand of football that Coach Bert believed in. 

That was actually one of the big selling points -- Back to Bert.  Think about that for a minute.

As for the comedy aspect?  I'm not getting that at all.  I think Kiffin's' a pretty creative troll and a hard-core mercenary.  I also think he's the best coach the Rebels have had in years.  Better than Cutcliffe.  Better than Freeze. Better than Brewer. He might make a mess of it, but my bet is that (maybe not next year, but soon) the Rebel Black Bear Sharks will become a really tough out.  He's also arriving at the right time.  Orgeron's magic has to be short-lived (doesn't it?).  Saban has to wane (doesn't he?).  State is stuck with Doughy Joe.  Arkansas just went back to Bert. Gus still hasn't yanked his head out of his ass and Steele won't be there forever.  Maybe I'm misreading the grass patterns, but I think there's going to be a void in the SEC that a Kiffin-led psychotic team could fill.
Agree. Don't know that Kiffen can get them to the pinnacle of ranked with game day at the grove as Freeze did without booster meddling but he should keep things interesting.

Weren't they #8 at one time?
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2019, 12:24:00 PM »
Over/under on the number of years Kiffin lasts in Oxford vs. the number of NCAA violations he is reported for (probably by Saban)?
Throw in knocked up sorority girls, and set it at 3, and I'm in.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2019, 12:28:36 PM »
Throw in knocked up sorority girls, and set it at 3, and I'm in.
According to Twitter, this is also a Bo Nix move. #winning
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2019, 12:42:04 PM »
According to Twitter, this is also a Bo Nix move. #winning
He don't wanna go down that treacherous path. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2019, 12:58:17 PM »
Whow whow, Kiffin better than Cutcliffe?  Not in a bazillion years.  Cutcliffe is a hell of a coach and they were stupid for firing him.  Kiffin has left ashes at all the Major programs he has been hired at.  Maybe that will change, but he isn't better than Cutcliffe or Freeze IMO...not at all, not at this point.
Right now this minute. Your choices are Freeze, Cutcliffe and Lane.  Who do you take? 
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2019, 01:28:13 PM »
Pittman is a 60 year old lifetime position coach. Yes a great recruiter and position coach. But straight to an sec hc gig? Ouch. I like it for the fact that ark still won’t be good and ga lost the one bright spot they had. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2019, 01:42:00 PM »
Right now this minute. Your choices are Freeze, Cutcliffe and Lane.  Who do you take?
I would take Freeze, but only because Cutcliffe is getting older.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2019, 02:01:44 PM »
I would take Freeze, but only because Cutcliffe is getting older.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2019, 02:17:07 PM »
I would take Freeze, but only because Cutcliffe is getting older.
Me too. I think he has learned to hide stuff from the bammers now.
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2019, 02:45:26 PM »
Freeze has a wide open, innovative offense.  But, everything he did at Ole Miss was due to them deciding they were tired of being a perennial doormat.  So they opened up the checkbook and tried to play the game on Bama's level.  Everybody knew it.  Everybody also knew they didnt have Bama's built in protections from the NCAA.  Then, they went and poked the bear a couple of times.  Hugh sits at Liberty and Ole Miss is Ole Miss again.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2019, 03:01:06 PM »
Freeze has a wide open, innovative offense.  But, everything he did at Ole Miss was due to them deciding they were tired of being a perennial doormat.  So they opened up the checkbook and tried to play the game on Bama's level.  Everybody knew it.  Everybody also knew they didnt have Bama's built in protections from the NCAA.  Then, they went and poked the bear a couple of times.  Hugh sits at Liberty and Ole Miss is Ole Miss again.
Liberty Biberty. 
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2019, 08:56:35 PM »
Liberty Biberty.
What if I come out of the water 
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2019, 09:27:21 PM »
Yeah I have to agree with you guys. 
Given the choice of the three I would take Freeze.


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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2019, 01:35:03 PM »
Ok.  I'm on record.  I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat over Freeze, Nutt or Huckleberry Hound (can't remember the guy's name and don't feel like even scrolling here to see it). 

That said?  Kiffin's tenure at Ole Miss could get ugly in a hurry.  They start with Baylor, get a cupcake, and then run Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Vandy and Florida.  It's no stretch to imagine that going 2-5, 1-6. 

Those fools over there think they're a notch below Bama. They truly don't understand that this is who they are. They will start choking on the MD 2020 they poured into champagne bottles for the tailgate.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2019, 01:36:13 PM »
Ok.  I'm on record.  I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat over Freeze, Nutt or Huckleberry Hound (can't remember the guy's name and don't feel like even scrolling here to see it). 

That said?  Kiffin's tenure at Ole Miss could get ugly in a hurry.  They start with Baylor, get a cupcake, and then run Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Vandy and Florida.  It's no stretch to imagine that going 2-4, 1-5. 

Those fools over there think they're a notch below Bama. They truly don't understand that this is who they are. They will start choking on the MD 2020 they poured into champagne bottles for the tailgate.
Thus, the lulz.
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