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« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2024, 09:59:32 AM »
Are these two points still valid? Asking for a friend.

Because a clemency spree just happened. A lot of them bad bad people.

When I saw the huge number all at once, I wondered what kind of vetting process was done, because it does appear that there were some really bad apples that got their get out of jail free cards.
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« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2024, 10:02:19 AM »
Are these two points still valid? Asking for a friend.

Because a clemency spree just happened. A lot of them bad bad people.

clemency =/= pardon
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« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2024, 12:25:44 PM »
clemency =/= pardon

it serves the same purpose.  your boy Joe has done more than anyone regardless how you want to define it, shape it or mold it to fit.
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« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2024, 02:13:48 PM »
clemency =/= pardon

You know exactly what I am driving at here. Quit being obtuse. Clemency was used purposely here since it's all encompassing. Whether general clemency or specifically a full pardon, the jist of your post was a philosophical "spirit of the rule" disagreement with the entire concept at the POTUS level. The more it's done, the worse - right?
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« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2024, 02:33:33 PM »
You know exactly what I am driving at here. Quit being obtuse. Clemency was used purposely here since it's all encompassing. Whether general clemency or specifically a full pardon, the jist of your post was a philosophical "spirit of the rule" disagreement with the entire concept at the POTUS level. The more it's done, the worse - right?

Clemency is usually granted at the request/recommendation of a 3rd party.

I don't have a problem with that, generally.

Preemptive pardoning by the POTUS is not my bag and I disagree with it, regardless of who uses it.
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« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2024, 02:51:31 PM »
Errbody in this thread...it's the end of the year. Go play with some titties (or dicks, no judgement here), grab a goblet or glass, toast something, smoke some meat (not like Snags, like Joe at the tailgate), and touch some grass.

Both parties suck. Washington sucks. Montgomery sucks. Or wherever your state capital is.


Life's too gotdamn short and Bama is too poor for all this himing and hawing.
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« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2024, 04:42:59 PM »
Errbody in this thread...it's the end of the year. Go play with some titties (or dicks, no judgement here), grab a goblet or glass, toast something, smoke some meat (not like Snags, like Joe at the tailgate), and touch some grass.

Both parties suck. Washington sucks. Montgomery sucks. Or wherever your state capital is.


Life's too gotdamn short and Bama is too poor for all this himing and hawing.
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« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2024, 05:18:14 PM »
Errbody in this thread...it's the end of the year. Go play with some titties (or dicks, no judgement here), grab a goblet or glass, toast something, smoke some meat (not like Snags, like Joe at the tailgate), and touch some grass.

Both parties suck. Washington sucks. Montgomery sucks. Or wherever your state capital is.


Life's too gotdamn short and Bama is too poor for all this himing and hawing.

You know who doesn't suck? 

Donald J. Trump. 

The greatest president of any of our lifetimes. 

Suck on that.
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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2024, 08:04:46 AM »
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Of the 40 inmates on federal death row, according to DeathPenaltyInfo.org, Biden is commuting 37 men sentenced to death, reclassifying their sentences to life without the possibility of parole.

Biden's forgiveness wand continues. 

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« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2024, 08:22:21 AM »
Biden's forgiveness wand continues.

Yeah but but but he only commuted their sentences. It wasn’t a full pardon. Nothing to see here.
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« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2024, 08:40:40 AM »
Biden's forgiveness wand continues.

Good.  The death penalty is a barbaric relic that serves no good purpose.
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« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2024, 09:02:26 AM »
The tenor of my excitement with this
X Men filled Trump team will drop precipitously if the January 6 prisoner's aren't released. It must happen and very soon after DJT's inauguration. These were Soviet style show trials, rights were trampled and lives laid to waste.
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« Reply #72 on: December 23, 2024, 10:34:26 AM »
Good.  The death penalty is a barbaric relic that serves no good purpose.

Unsurprisingly, I disagree vehemently. 

The only problem with it today is the length of time between sentence and execution.  It should happen within 90 days. 

The purpose would then be better served.

I do have another solution, though.  Anyone who should be sentenced to death can come stay with you.  YOU are responsible for their feeding, care, medical bills, clothing, etc.  I don't want to pay for it.  You do it.
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« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2024, 06:51:40 PM »
Bring back public hangings.
And add public canings.
Watch crime go down and liberal heads explode.
The plantation lawyers will be apoplectic!
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« Reply #74 on: December 24, 2024, 08:16:40 AM »
Good.  The death penalty is a barbaric relic that serves no good purpose.

The about face you’ve done here is staggering. I’ll give you credit - your side sticks with the team no matter what.
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« Reply #75 on: December 24, 2024, 09:03:19 AM »
Bring back public hangings.
And add public canings.
Watch crime go down and liberal heads explode.
The plantation lawyers will be apoplectic!
Yeah pre Musk Twitter booted me permanently for saying traitors should be executed. Never once mentioned a single person by name or any method. I don't have a following so I'm left to the judgement of bots.
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« Reply #76 on: December 24, 2024, 09:14:51 AM »
The about face you’ve done here is staggering. I’ll give you credit - your side sticks with the team no matter what.

I don't think you'll find that I've changed my stance on capital punishment at all.
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« Reply #77 on: December 24, 2024, 12:27:00 PM »
I don't think you'll find that I've changed my stance on capital punishment at all.

Changing stance =/= shoving the goalpost all over the field, up into the stands, out in the parking lot, and halfway across town. 
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