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« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2018, 09:55:23 AM »
I know it's trendy to shit all over all things AU football right now, but this wasn't the worst hire we could have made.  It's a far better hire than the RB coach at USCe or KB.

That said, the whole situation is still fucked.  But this is a decent hire.
Didn't really matter who we hired did it? 

Don't forget (calling Snags) Gus has now what taken back over the offense? 

Is this the 3rd, 4th or 5th time we have switched I forget?  He's gone from calling plays to saying he was just gonna be CEO to maybe calling plays again to now it is Lashlee, to all plays run through him but Lindsey is making the calls.  Personally, I'm not shitting over Auburn football I just see this shit show for what it is.
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« Reply #101 on: December 10, 2018, 11:47:02 AM »
Didn't really matter who we hired did it?

Don't forget (calling Snags) Gus has now what taken back over the offense? 

Is this the 3rd, 4th or 5th time we have switched I forget?  He's gone from calling plays to saying he was just gonna be CEO to maybe calling plays again to now it is Lashlee, to all plays run through him but Lindsey is making the calls.  Personally, I'm not shitting over Auburn football I just see this shit show for what it is.
The most gus thing to do would be to fuck around and win 9-10 games in 19 and save his own ass temporarily - again. 
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« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2018, 11:50:40 AM »
Coaching for his life it's highly doubtful Gus allows this dude to be any more than a fill-in for a more experienced Lindsey.
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« Reply #103 on: December 10, 2018, 12:03:39 PM »
The most gus thing to do would be to fudge around and win 9-10 games in 19 and save his own ass temporarily - again.
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« Reply #104 on: December 10, 2018, 12:17:58 PM »
That’s what scares me with this guy some. I don’t root for Auburn’s demise contrary to what I’ve said before.

This guy is a legit qb coach. Nix is a special qb. Gus seems to be trending back towards the model that gave him magic in 13-14. I’m afraid they will have enough success not to be able to fire him next year. That’s my fear here.

Which would make him...wait for it...

a decent hire.

Didn't really matter who we hired did it?

Don't forget (calling Snags) Gus has now what taken back over the offense? 

Is this the 3rd, 4th or 5th time we have switched I forget?  He's gone from calling plays to saying he was just gonna be CEO to maybe calling plays again to now it is Lashlee, to all plays run through him but Lindsey is making the calls.  Personally, I'm not shitting over Auburn football I just see this shit show for what it is.
See the next to last sentence of my post.
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« Reply #105 on: December 10, 2018, 12:47:29 PM »
Which would make him...wait for it...

a decent hire.
See the next to last sentence of my post.
My point was/is though decent hire (I guess, not sure what we are basing this on) or not, was that it really doesn't matter if it had been the USCe RB coach or Kodi Burns.  This guy isn't going to be calling the plays any more than Bently or Kodi was going to.
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« Reply #106 on: December 10, 2018, 01:25:54 PM »
My point was/is though decent hire (I guess, not sure what we are basing this on) or not, was that it really doesn't matter if it had been the USCe RB coach or Kodi Burns.  This guy isn't going to be calling the plays any more than Bently or Kodi was going to.
It’s a “decent hire” only in this context.  In terms of Auburn football as a whole and the (perhaps misguided) perception of prestige with which we and others hold the program?  Its a pfffzzzahhhh at best.  He’s green, doesn’t break from the Malzahn closed circle, isn’t likely to pop with recruits... 

he may be great.  But it isn’t moving my needle. 
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« Reply #107 on: December 10, 2018, 01:38:56 PM »
My point was/is though decent hire (I guess, not sure what we are basing this on) or not, was that it really doesn't matter if it had been the USCe RB coach or Kodi Burns.  This guy isn't going to be calling the plays any more than Bently or Kodi was going to.

Depends on what Gus trots out onto the field in the spring and at A Day. If he wants to go all Nick Marshall/Tre Mason with Bo/Boobie? Jury may be out on that one.

If he trots out the same hodge podge crap we saw with Chip? Yeah were doomed. I do wonder at times if the latter came from the power struggle. Dillingham may very well be a pure yes man, whose sole duty is relaying in plays in game, and developing Bo Nix/Malik Willis. Can Gus be full time OC and HC?
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« Reply #108 on: December 10, 2018, 01:40:36 PM »
Depends on what Gus trots out onto the field in the spring and at A Day. If he wants to go all Nick Marshall/Tre Mason with Bo/Boobie? Jury may be out on that one.

If he trots out the same hodge podge crap we saw with Chip? Yeah were doomed. I do wonder at times if the latter came from the power struggle. Dillingham may very well be a pure yes man, whose sole duty is relaying in plays in game, and developing Bo Nix/Malik Willis. Can Gus be full time OC and HC?
On that note, I doubt we see ANYTHING at Spring/A-Day. Gus is a paranoid sort and this episode has likely reinforced that paranoia. He doesn't want to give Oregon any looks even if it is the same 3 plays from 5 formations. 
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« Reply #109 on: December 10, 2018, 02:01:35 PM »
If he trots out the same hodge podge crap we saw with Chip? Yeah were doomed. I do wonder at times if the latter came from the power struggle. Dillingham may very well be a pure yes man, whose sole duty is relaying in plays in game, and developing Bo Nix/Malik Willis. Can Gus be full time OC and HC?
According to the article on Dilly Dilly's hiring, it specifically mentioned that he was not going to be the one calling the plays.  I am assuming then that Gus will be.  So...yes until he decides not to call them again.
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Re: OC Search
« Reply #110 on: December 10, 2018, 02:02:40 PM »
According to the article on Dilly Dilly's hiring, it specifically mentioned that he was not going to be the one calling the plays.  I am assuming then that Gus will be.  So...yes until he decides not to call them again.
Kodi Burns will be calling the plays
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« Reply #111 on: December 10, 2018, 02:05:13 PM »
Y'all remember when Jarrett was going to have "more control at the line of scrimmage" over the offense and "could change plays" as we were told leading into the season?

What happened with all that?
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« Reply #112 on: December 10, 2018, 02:09:30 PM »
Y'all remember when Jarrett was going to have "more control at the line of scrimmage" over the offense and "could change plays" as we were told leading into the season?

What happened with all that?
They are close.  We are gonna get better.
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« Reply #113 on: December 10, 2018, 02:21:18 PM »
My point:

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/auburn-say-hire-kenny-dillingham-offensive-coordinator-2018/

Gus Malzahn got his guy.

With all due respect to new Auburn offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Kenny Dillingham, I say that tongue in cheek.
A week after Chip Lindsey left Malzahn to go join forces with Les Miles at Kansas, Auburn announced on Sunday night at 10 p.m. ET that it hired a 28-year-old assistant from Memphis to take the position. As recently as 2016, Dillingham was a grad assistant at Memphis.

I don’t want to poke holes at Dillingham’s résumé or insist that he isn’t one of the “rising stars in the profession” as Malzahn laid out in the official release, but I think it’s at least worth mentioning that this is a real paragraph in his bio on Memphis’ website:


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Before joining the collegiate football ranks, Dillingham served as a coach in the Athletes in Training program from 2008-10. He also worked for the City of Scottsdale (Ariz.) as a football camp manager from 2009-13. Over that same period of time, Dillingham served in several capacities – from freshman coach to offensive coordinator – with the Chaparral High School.

In other words, when Malzahn was leading Auburn to a national title berth in 2013, Dillingham was working his way up as a football camp manager for the City of Scottsdale.

In other shocking news, Dillingham won’t be calling plays for Auburn. Malzahn will go back to filling that role, which he did in his first 3 seasons.

Call me crazy, but this says a ton about the current state of the program.

Again, I really don’t want this to come off as my way of saying Dillingham can’t succeed at Auburn. Of course he can. Young offensive minds are all the rage in football these days. We just watched 35-year-old Lincoln Riley lead his second Heisman Trophy quarterback in as many seasons. Maybe Dillingham was indeed the secret sauce behind Mike Norvell’s high-powered offenses at Memphis.

But to me, this hire is all about Malzahn trying to get control back. By bringing in someone nearly half his age, Malzahn has a coordinator who’s young enough to be his son. I’m not saying that he’ll get treated like that, but the fact that it came out that Malzahn will be handling play-calling duties now doesn’t exactly go against the belief that he hired a “yes man.”

That’s what you’d expect someone entering a make-or-break year to do. Malzahn is. He knows it. Everyone at Auburn knows it. That’s why he’s putting all of his chips on himself to try and find the magic that he had early in his Auburn tenure.

In a different way, that’s why it made sense that Malzahn reportedly wanted to hire Hugh Freeze, AKA the other guy who beat Nick Saban twice. Considering how Freeze left Ole Miss and how desperate he is to rebuild his tarnished reputation, Freeze would’ve done anything that Malzahn asked of him. Malzahn could have taken on play-calling duties while Freeze was probably just giddy to get back into the SEC in an on-field role.
But that, in fitting Auburn fashion, didn’t get the nod of approval from the folks upstairs

It’s worth noting that according to Auburn Undercover, Dillingham agreed to a 2-year deal to become the Tigers’ new offensive coordinator.
Just sayin’.

So Auburn reportedly waved its multi-year contract restriction to hire Dillingham. Why? It was either desperate to fill the position with the Early Signing Period just a week and a half away, or it realized that Dillingham’s contract is probably half of what it would have paid Freeze.
Again, that’s just speculation. It’s also technically speculation to say that Dillingham wasn’t Auburn’s first choice.


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And believe it or not, Auburn’s release had Dillingham’s experience as a football camp manager for the City of Scottsdale tweaked to “from 2007-12 Dillingham served in several coaching capacities with the Chaparral High School football program in Scottsdale, Ariz.”

Dillingham is a hustler. No doubt. That’s why the guy was coaching junior varsity football … while he was a high school senior. He’s basically been grinding as a coach since before he could legally vote. The fact that he’s risen to such heights so quickly is a testament to just how hard he’s worked.
But let’s be clear. Auburn doesn’t make a move like this if everything is business as usual. Malzahn will enter 2019 with a seat hotter than anyone in America, and nobody is going to blame the 28-year-old offensive coordinator if the Tigers’ offense repeats its 2018 offensive dud.

Malzahn wanted to get back to what he had with Rhett Lashlee, who was only 29 when he was hired as Auburn’s offensive coordinator in 2013. He was just over a decade removed from being Malzahn’s quarterback at Shiloh Christian High School (Ark.). And despite how things ended, that plan benefitted Auburn greatly in the short-term. There’s no doubt that Malzahn is trying to recreate that dynamic with the 28-year-old Dillingham.

It wasn’t a coincidence that in the release that Auburn sent out at 10 p.m. ET on Sunday night, it made no mention of Dillingham’s age, or that he’s one of the youngest FBS coordinators in the country. That’s fine. They didn’t have to. The internet took care of that.

There’s another sentence that wasn’t in the team’s release that certainly could’ve been.
“Auburn is desperate, and everything that’s happened on The Plains the last few months suggests that 2019 will be filled with angst.”
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« Reply #114 on: December 10, 2018, 02:29:20 PM »
If he trots out the same hodge podge crap we saw with Chip? Yeah were doomed. I do wonder at times if the latter came from the power struggle. Dillingham may very well be a pure yes man, whose sole duty is relaying in plays in game, and developing Bo Nix/Malik Willis. Can Gus be full time OC and HC?
Because the Twirly Bird worked well with Lashlee.  There was no power struggle, Gus had final say on the calls.  

Don't forget Lindsey resigned, dude left on his own accord to rid himself of Gus.   Again it didn't matter who we hired at OC Gus is calling the plays next year.  We could have hired Bobo the Chimpanzee for OC.
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« Reply #115 on: December 10, 2018, 02:31:36 PM »
It’s a “decent hire” only in this context. 
and see I don't see it as a decent hire in any context.  It's a warm body who may/may not be decent at recruiting and that's about it.
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« Reply #116 on: December 10, 2018, 02:32:21 PM »
Where's Snaggle?   He usually eats these things.
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« Reply #117 on: December 10, 2018, 02:32:24 PM »

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“Auburn is desperate, and everything that’s happened on The Plains the last few months suggests that 2019 will be filled with angst.”


Dude, that's EVERY year at Auburn. It's how we roll and we all know it. Deep down at places we don't talk about at parties (except for Kaos), we need the angst! We want that angst! 

INJECT IT INTO MY PENAL VEIN AND SADDLE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2018, 02:35:06 PM »

Dude, that's EVERY year at Auburn. It's how we roll and we all know it. Deep down at places we don't talk about at parties (except for Kaos), we need the angst! We want that angst!

INJECT IT INTO MY PENAL VEIN AND SADDLE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2018, 02:37:53 PM »
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