No, you are NOT Jazz

[AUChizad]

Not to get into semantics but in today's political climate those are all pretty much the same policy wise.

It's a distinction that matters to me. Especially in a discussion about pinning down my ideology.

[wesfau2]

Not to get into semantics but in today's political climate those are all pretty much the same policy wise.

Nooooope.

[CCTAU]

Not to get into semantics but in today's political climate those are all pretty much the same policy wise.

Yeeeepp!

[Kaos]

It's a distinction that matters to me. Especially in a discussion about pinning down my ideology.

You aren’t consistently dumb enough to truly qualify as a liberal democrat.

There are areas where you lean left of center.  But you’re smart enough to see that true socialism is a failed philosophy. You get the value of a capital economy.  You’ve got undeserved white guilt BUT that was drummed into you at a much earlier age than it was me.

You’re not a true liberal.  Sorry if that triggers you.

[AUChizad]

You aren’t consistently dumb enough to truly qualify as a liberal democrat.

There are areas where you lean left of center.  But you’re smart enough to see that true socialism is a failed philosophy. You get the value of a capital economy.  You’ve got undeserved white guilt BUT that was drummed into you at a much earlier age than it was me.

You’re not a true liberal.  Sorry if that triggers you.

Liberalism, in the classical economic sense, is the opposite of socialism.

Liberalism means favoring individual liberty, being open minded about things and cultures even if they're not your own. Laizzes fair, live and let live, whatever floats your boat.

Not your definition.

[Kaos]

Liberalism, in the classical economic sense, is the opposite of socialism.

Liberalism means favoring individual liberty, being open minded about things and cultures even if they're not your own. Laizzes fair, live and let live, whatever floats your boat.

Not your definition.

And your definition doesn’t mesh with the national narrative. 

It’s completely different, actually. 

Come up with something else so you stop misidentifying yourself.

[Snaggletiger]

Climate change is still real, (Yep, always has been since the beginning of time) pot is still relatively harmless and should be legal, (100% agree) I still have no issue with gays, (100% agree) Roy Moore is still a scumbag piece of shit, (100% agree) and Trump is still a buffoon. (On policy, 100% disagree.  On the Twatter and thin-skinned responses to any and all criticizim, 100% agree.))

And my stance on this topic hasn't changed either.

[GH2001]

Liberalism, in the classical economic sense, is the opposite of socialism.

Liberalism means favoring individual liberty, being open minded about things and cultures even if they're not your own. Laizzes fair, live and let live, whatever floats your boat.

Not your definition.

Classic liberalism yes. You are correct.

That's just not what it means today politically. Not totally anyway. Classic liberalism is what we know now as libertarians.

And no wes in today's climate they are no different. Other than the occasional joe manchin/joe lieberman types. And dare I say it, Doug jones. Liberals and progressives are used interchangeably to describe someone who sits on the left end of the spectrum. Most democrats fit this bill now. 20 years ago? No but today yes. Without blatant cheating, a far left loon would have been the democrat nominee.

[CCTAU]

Classic liberalism yes. You are correct.

That's just not what it means today politically. Not totally anyway. Classic liberalism is what we know now as libertarians.

And no wes in today's climate they are no different. Other than the occasional joe manchin/joe lieberman types. And dare I say it, Doug jones. Liberals and progressives are used interchangeably to describe someone who sits on the left end of the spectrum. Most democrats fit this bill now. 20 years ago? No but today yes. Without blatant cheating, a far left loon would have been the democrat nominee.

Wait. you mean its OK to redefine something like "white nationalism" but not liberalism. Gasp!

[Kaos]

Wait. you mean its OK to redefine something like "white nationalism" but not liberalism. Gasp!

BAD Whitey! 

[wesfau2]

Wait. you mean its OK to redefine something like "white nationalism" but not liberalism. Gasp!

Is this really the position you want to argue?

[Kaos]

Is this really the position you want to argue?

Can I count on your support in 2028?

[wesfau2]

Can I count on your support in 2028?

Probably not, but I may have gone totally batshit insane by then so...who knows?

[chinook]

Probably not, but I may have gone totally batshit insane by then so...who knows?

Bo?

[wesfau2]

Bo?

He ain't sayin.

[Kaos]

Probably not, but I may have gone totally batshit insane by then so...who knows?

I’ll take that as a yes.  I’m building bridges.