Vegas shooting

[Snaggletiger]

He would have pistol whipped someone first, though.

There weren't many black people there, so it's doubtful.

[WiregrassTiger]

Am I the only one not buying that this guy did this all on his own?

No. You and Bottomfeeder.

[Token]

1. Fuck this guy for being such a goddam coward.
2. If you have money it isn't that hard to legally own a fully auto rifle
3. If you're a criminal who wants a fully auto rifle it isn't hard at all to obtain one.
4. That off duty cop has some balls on him.  I can appreciate his willingness to protect in that situation.  And as much as I know he wanted to protect everyone in that room, I can guarantee you he was driven by the notion that he wasn't going to be shot and killed by a psychopath while he was on vacation.  I can respect that too.  But it takes a set of balls on a man to be standing anywhere in Las Vegas that night, in plain clothes, holding a gun at the entrance to a building.  He had zero radio communication, he had no idea what was going on and he very likely had no way to identify any other person in that city he was law enforcement while standing guard.  He could have very easily been seen by a LV Police officer and been targeted as a second gunman.  THAT is how you get your ass killed and it's always one of my biggest fears with assisting any other LEO while off duty. 

[dallaswareagle]

Good thing this wasn't a rap concert, all those NFL players running around trying to save people and running into the hotel to get the shooter. Oh, wait. 

[GH2001]

1. Fuck this guy for being such a goddam coward.
2. If you have money it isn't that hard to legally own a fully auto rifle
3. If you're a criminal who wants a fully auto rifle it isn't hard at all to obtain one.
4. That off duty cop has some balls on him.  I can appreciate his willingness to protect in that situation.  And as much as I know he wanted to protect everyone in that room, I can guarantee you he was driven by the notion that he wasn't going to be shot and killed by a psychopath while he was on vacation.  I can respect that too.  But it takes a set of balls on a man to be standing anywhere in Las Vegas that night, in plain clothes, holding a gun at the entrance to a building.  He had zero radio communication, he had no idea what was going on and he very likely had no way to identify any other person in that city he was law enforcement while standing guard.  He could have very easily been seen by a LV Police officer and been targeted as a second gunman.  THAT is how you get your ass killed and it's always one of my biggest fears with assisting any other LEO while off duty.

Ive read they've found "bump stocks" in his stash. Meaning these were probably semi Ars he made to replicate an auto. As you know, even a bump stock doesn't make it auto mechanically speaking but it has the same end effect as far as rapid fire.

[GH2001]

No. You and Bottomfeeder.

Add me to the list then.

And you don't have to be a conspiracy nut to see something don't add up here. If this were a movie I would be bitching about plot holes. Think about it.

[CCTAU]

Add me to the list then.

And you don't have to be a conspiracy nut to see something don't add up here. If this were a movie I would be bitching about plot holes. Think about it.

Now some video showing gunfire from a different level of the hotel? Anybody hear that?

Everything seems off about this deal.

[Buzz Killington]

Now some video showing gunfire from a different level of the hotel? Anybody hear that?

Everything seems off about this deal.

4th floor.  Something is amiss.  Also, the guy was all over Anifta pages and protests.

[GH2001]

Now some video showing gunfire from a different level of the hotel? Anybody hear that?

Everything seems off about this deal.

I saw it. Saw three different ones form 3 different angles and they all show it. So it isn't doctored video and it isn't a reflection. But not sure if that's what it is. It sure resembles muzzle fire though. Problem there is the only two broke windows on the mandalay are the two on the 32nd floor. Do the lower floors windows open? If so that's a game changer.

[Snaggletiger]

I saw it. Saw three different ones form 3 different angles and they all show it. So it isn't doctored video and it isn't a reflection. But not sure if that's what it is. It sure resembles muzzle fire though. Problem there is the only two broke windows on the mandalay are the two on the 32nd floor. Do the lower floors windows open? If so that's a game changer.

Bingo.  However, wouldn't gun fire from another room set off the smoke alarms just as it did in Paddock's? I believe that's one contingency he didn't plan for.  If it hadn't gone off, he might have been able to pump a few hundred more rounds into the crowd. 

[GH2001]

Bingo.  However, wouldn't gun fire from another room set off the smoke alarms just as it did in Paddock's? I believe that's one contingency he didn't plan for.  If it hadn't gone off, he might have been able to pump a few hundred more rounds into the crowd.

And it may have. Or whoever (if someone was) was in that other room may have planned better for it that he did. Like buzz said, something is amiss. And I don't usually say that about these things. I think the sandy hook and 9-11 truthers are moon bats.

[Snaggletiger]

And it may have. Or whoever (if someone was) was in that other room may have planned better for it that he did. Like buzz said, something is amiss. And I don't usually say that about these things. I think the sandy hook and 9-11 truthers are moon bats.

Miss who? 

I also think anyone questioning those events are loony tunes.  And I'm going to stick with the current narrative of Paddock being the lone wolf here until the authorities come up with something more concrete than a book faces video of the gun flash from the grassy knoll.  As many times as I've seen/heard these videos, I've never thought it sounded like more than one gun.  And all the witnesses say the same thing. (Unless I've missed some new accounts)  It was a long string of rapid fire.  Pause.  Rapid fire. Pause.  Rapid fire.

Could there have been a second shooter?  I guess it's possible.  But think about this.  There's no chance in hell the police didn't sweep that entire building, floor by floor, room by room.  There's also no chance that they wouldn't have noticed smoke or some other evidence of shooting going on from another room on the 4th or any other floor.   

[CCTAU]

Miss who? 

I also think anyone questioning those events are loony tunes.  And I'm going to stick with the current narrative of Paddock being the lone wolf here until the authorities come up with something more concrete than a book faces video of the gun flash from the grassy knoll.  As many times as I've seen/heard these videos, I've never thought it sounded like more than one gun.  And all the witnesses say the same thing. (Unless I've missed some new accounts)  It was a long string of rapid fire.  Pause.  Rapid fire. Pause.  Rapid fire.

Could there have been a second shooter?  I guess it's possible.  But think about this.  There's no chance in hell the police didn't sweep that entire building, floor by floor, room by room.  There's also no chance that they wouldn't have noticed smoke or some other evidence of shooting going on from another room on the 4th or any other floor.

Bob Lee Swagger begs the differ!

[Snaggletiger]

Bob Lee Swagger begs the differ!

Are you out of your mind? Are you out of your damn mind? I am a United States Senator!

[dallaswareagle]

Miss who? 

I also think anyone questioning those events are loony tunes.  And I'm going to stick with the current narrative of Paddock being the lone wolf here until the authorities come up with something more concrete than a book faces video of the gun flash from the grassy knoll.  As many times as I've seen/heard these videos, I've never thought it sounded like more than one gun.  And all the witnesses say the same thing. (Unless I've missed some new accounts)  It was a long string of rapid fire.  Pause.  Rapid fire. Pause.  Rapid fire.

Could there have been a second shooter?  I guess it's possible.  But think about this.  There's no chance in hell the police didn't sweep that entire building, floor by floor, room by room.  There's also no chance that they wouldn't have noticed smoke or some other evidence of shooting going on from another room on the 4th or any other floor.

Second shooter, I don't know. I would guess in the upcoming weeks we will know about how many rounds were fired (empty shell casings), how many empty magazines were found. On the videos I have seen and just guessing by the rate of fire I don't hear any other weapons joining in. A second shooters weapon would have added a different sound and rate of fire. 

[Snaggletiger]

Second shooter, I don't know. I would guess in the upcoming weeks we will know about how many rounds were fired (empty shell casings), how many empty magazines were found. On the videos I have seen and just guessing by the rate of fire I don't hear any other weapons joining in. A second shooters weapon would have added a different sound and rate of fire.

Listen to him, he's pre-med.

[bottomfeeder]

Back to the politicization? 

The lefty losers are bashing politicians who are offering condolences or prayers saying those sentiments are worthless unless they act on gun control.

I'm just going to stick to Lou Dobbs.

[jmar]

I'm just going to stick to Lou Dobbs.

You just have to trust a person with the name Lou.
I know I do.

Lou Gehrig... Yankee HOFer.
Lou Ferigno...hulk and body builder
Lou Ann Poovie...Gomer's best girl. Couldn't make up her mind, very agreeable though.
Mary Lou Retton...gymnastics and tampons, strong combination!
Lou Reed...he took a walk on the wildside, and all the colored girls say...
Baba Louie...a Mexican burro, so trustworthy.
Linda Lou...she had long and lanky legs.

[WiregrassTiger]

You just have to trust a person with the name Lou.
I know I do.

Lou Gehrig... Yankee HOFer.
Lou Ferigno...hulk and body builder
Lou Ann Poovie...Gomer's best girl. Couldn't make up her mind, very agreeable though.
Mary Lou Retton...gymnastics and tampons, strong combination!
Lou Reed...he took a walk on the wildside, and all the colored girls say...
Baba Louie...a Mexican burro, so trustworthy.
Linda Lou...she had long and lanky legs.

Your posting has improved since following and admiring me.

[jmar]

Your posting has improved since following and admiring me.

Yeah. I'm still mad at you for running off the only women we had on this site. One hasn't been heard from and the other moved to fucking Scotland.
Keep up the good work.