Vegas shooting

[Kaos]

Back to the politicization? 

The lefty losers are bashing politicians who are offering condolences or prayers saying those sentiments are worthless unless they act on gun control. 

[GH2001]

Back to the politicization? 

The lefty losers are bashing politicians who are offering condolences or prayers saying those sentiments are worthless unless they act on gun control.

What do they suggest - banning automatic weapons?

Or perhaps banning "evil"?

[Kaos]

What do they suggest - banning automatic weapons?

Or perhaps banning "evil"?

Nothing.  Alarmists. 

Richard Shelby  ✔ @SenShelby
Praying for the victims and the families of the victims involved in the tragic Las Vegas shooting. Thankful for brave first responders.


Beck McDowell @BeckMcDowell
Please explain your continued votes against assault weapons bans. Thoughts and prayers aren't cutting it for sensible Americans.

[The Prowler]

I don't think more gun control would have prevented this. Word is that he had modified his weapons.

[AUChizad]

I've read actually that trigger cranks are legal, which I found surprising...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/02/expert-las-vegas-shooter-may-have-used-trigger-crank/723236001/#

[Kaos]

She said it.  Many of them thought it.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/02/top-cbs-lawyer-no-sympathy-for-vegas-vics-probably-republicans.html

[dallaswareagle]

She said it.  Many of them thought it.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/02/top-cbs-lawyer-no-sympathy-for-vegas-vics-probably-republicans.html

I read she was fired.  She will prolly start her own show on MSNBC tomorrow night.

[GH2001]

I don't think more gun control would have prevented this. Word is that he had modified his weapons.

Agree. Having what he did was probably already illegal unless he had a class III permit from the atf. Token may can fill us in more on this aspect. But I know it's a long tedious process to have a FA weapon and it be legal.

[Snaggletiger]

I'm really anxious to find out the motive behind this.  This wasn't a man snapping.  This wasn't "I got fired so I'm going back into work and blowing people away".  He doesn't fit the religious fanatic M.O. based on the little we know about him.  So, what makes a guy do this to all these innocent people?

You can't say he was crazy, not in the sense of snapping or going off the deep end.  This was methodically planned, prepared for and carried out.  He'd been there since Thursday.  He chose that corner room to have that view. I've heard as few as 8 and as many as 20 weapons,  I've heard there were two "shooting platforms".  Not sure what that is but I assume it's something a sniper would rest his weapon on to steady it.  Someone fill me in.

He had cameras set up to know when the police were coming so he'd know when to take the coward's way out.  He planned the shooting for the last song of this 3-day music festival.  What details am I leaving out?  In any event, there was definitely a finely tuned method to this madness. 

So the only question is why?

Somebody said something today that made sense, but me not being that knowledgeable about military tactics, I'll put this out there for those that are.  The guy said the shooter wouldn't have been right at the window, but would have been well out of sight.  That keeps the shooter from being spotted by the flash and smoke.  Truth?  Makes sense. 

[WiregrassTiger]

I'm thinking it had some twisted connection to the song, since he specifically waited. And maybe it's a number of reasons but obviously, number one, he was nuts.

I would imagine this freaked Snagette out. And probably Snags. And understandably so.

58 dead and 500 injured. Unbelievable. I don't remember the Texas tower numbers but don't think they approached this.

I can't understand why taking innocent people with him made it any better. Just a weirdo.

[Snaggletiger]

I'm thinking it had some twisted connection to the song, since he specifically waited. And maybe it's a number of reasons but obviously, number one, he was nuts.

I would imagine this freaked Snagette out. And probably Snags. And understandably so.

58 dead and 500 injured. Unbelievable. I don't remember the Texas tower numbers but don't think they approached this.

I can't understand why taking innocent people with him made it any better. Just a weirdo.

Yeah, she was pretty shaken, as were dad and mom.  Kind of an eye opener to be going back and forth with your daughter at 2:00 in the morning with her holed up in a bathroom thinking there's an active shooter in the building. Every channel has graphic pictures and different stories about what's going on.

I can't imagine being the parent of one of those killed and getting the call that some loon declared war on concert goers and killed your child.

[GH2001]

Yeah, she was pretty shaken, as were dad and mom.  Kind of an eye opener to be going back and forth with your daughter at 2:00 in the morning with her holed up in a bathroom thinking there's an active shooter in the building. Every channel has graphic pictures and different stories about what's going on.

I can't imagine being the parent of one of those killed and getting the call that some loon declared war on concert goers and killed your child.

Sounds like it freaked Aldean out too. He sounded shaken up from what I saw. He was a sitting duck out there on stage. But I'm guessing the shooter cared less and wanted mass casualties from the crowd. But being in aldeans position that has to mess with your head from now on.

[The Prowler]

I'm really anxious to find out the motive behind this.  This wasn't a man snapping.  This wasn't "I got fired so I'm going back into work and blowing people away".  He doesn't fit the religious fanatic M.O. based on the little we know about him.  So, what makes a guy do this to all these innocent people?

You can't say he was crazy, not in the sense of snapping or going off the deep end.  This was methodically planned, prepared for and carried out.  He'd been there since Thursday.  He chose that corner room to have that view. I've heard as few as 8 and as many as 20 weapons,  I've heard there were two "shooting platforms".  Not sure what that is but I assume it's something a sniper would rest his weapon on to steady it.  Someone fill me in.

He had cameras set up to know when the police were coming so he'd know when to take the coward's way out.  He planned the shooting for the last song of this 3-day music festival.  What details am I leaving out?  In any event, there was definitely a finely tuned method to this madness. 

So the only question is why?

Somebody said something today that made sense, but me not being that knowledgeable about military tactics, I'll put this out there for those that are.  The guy said the shooter wouldn't have been right at the window, but would have been well out of sight.  That keeps the shooter from being spotted by the flash and smoke.  Truth?  Makes sense.

Doesn't make any sense to me either, the guy was reportedly a multi-millionaire, retired...basically living the good life.

[CCTAU]

Doesn't make any sense to me either, the guy was reportedly a multi-millionaire, retired...basically living the good life.

So he may have had a class III license.


And the way the cops found him was that the smoke from the guns set off the fire alarm!

[The Prowler]

So he may have had a class III license.


And the way the cops found him was that the smoke from the guns set off the fire alarm!

He liked his guns...a lot, apparently, 42 were found in the hotel room.

[Kaos]

USA Today, less than 24 hours later:

What's the impact on country music's gun culture?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/nation-now/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-impact-country-music-guns/726070001/

"Gun culture"

 

[Snaggletiger]

Turns out that these people weren't in any danger, but at the time, no one knew what was going on and rumors were flying that there were terrorist attacks all along the strip. I heard the interview where Rich said this Officer was on his honeymoon. No one knew what the danger really was but this guy took the gun and stood guard for 2 hours.  Another example of sorry ass cops and their incessant police brutality.

tasteofcountry.com


John Rich of Big & Rich, was at his Redneck Riveria bar in Las Vegas after performing the Route 91 Harvest Festival on Sunday night (Oct 1). He recalls a lockdown scene inside the bar, during which he provided an officer with a firearm.

Speaking to Fox News, Rich recalled an off-duty officer from Minnesota approaching him  and asking if had a gun. Rich says he has his permit and was carrying, so he provided the firearm to the man. From there the unidentified officer stood point at the door for nearly two hours.

Big & Rich performed two sets before Jason Aldean, who was onstage when gunshots broke out from the Mandalay Bay Casino, which sits kitty-corner from the festival grounds. Nearly 60 were killed and more than 500 injured when 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on the crowd, firing hundreds of shots for over four minutes.

Redneck Riviera is about three miles north of the concert site. Inside patrons remained away from the windows, Rich said, until given the all-clear at about 2AM local time. Many at the bar had just come from Route 91 and were emotional.

“I remember this one lady … she was just uncontrollably weeping in the room,” Rich says.

Jake Owen played between Big & Rich and Aldean and was on the side of the stage when shooting began. On Instagram he shared his harrowing tale of survival. Chris Young also had to duck for cover. Side-stage artist Jordan Mitchell tells Taste of Country she and her band hid beneath the stage during the attacks. All of Sunday’s performers have reported in as safe, although Josh Abbott Band’s guitarist says that his crew was hit with shrapnel.

[WiregrassTiger]

Turns out that these people weren't in any danger, but at the time, no one knew what was going on and rumors were flying that there were terrorist attacks all along the strip. I heard the interview where Rich said this Officer was on his honeymoon. No one knew what the danger really was but this guy took the gun and stood guard for 2 hours.  Another example of sorry ass cops and their incessant police brutality.

tasteofcountry.com


John Rich of Big & Rich, was at his Redneck Riveria bar in Las Vegas after performing the Route 91 Harvest Festival on Sunday night (Oct 1). He recalls a lockdown scene inside the bar, during which he provided an officer with a firearm.

Speaking to Fox News, Rich recalled an off-duty officer from Minnesota approaching him  and asking if had a gun. Rich says he has his permit and was carrying, so he provided the firearm to the man. From there the unidentified officer stood point at the door for nearly two hours.

Big & Rich performed two sets before Jason Aldean, who was onstage when gunshots broke out from the Mandalay Bay Casino, which sits kitty-corner from the festival grounds. Nearly 60 were killed and more than 500 injured when 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on the crowd, firing hundreds of shots for over four minutes.

Redneck Riviera is about three miles north of the concert site. Inside patrons remained away from the windows, Rich said, until given the all-clear at about 2AM local time. Many at the bar had just come from Route 91 and were emotional.

“I remember this one lady … she was just uncontrollably weeping in the room,” Rich says.

Jake Owen played between Big & Rich and Aldean and was on the side of the stage when shooting began. On Instagram he shared his harrowing tale of survival. Chris Young also had to duck for cover. Side-stage artist Jordan Mitchell tells Taste of Country she and her band hid beneath the stage during the attacks. All of Sunday’s performers have reported in as safe, although Josh Abbott Band’s guitarist says that his crew was hit with shrapnel.

I bet Token would have taken the gun too. And then hauled ass.

[AUJarhead]

I bet Token would have taken the gun too. And then hauled ass.

He would have pistol whipped someone first, though.

[AUTailgatingRules]

Am I the only one not buying that this guy did this all on his own?