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Vegas shooting
« on: October 02, 2017, 08:13:04 AM »
Hard to even begin to respond to this.  There are things that occur to me.   

1) I know the Aldean guy had to be terrified, but tweeting out that he and his crew were safe seemed self-involved.  Who gives a fuck?  I don't know what I expected him to do, but dropping his shit and running from the stage and then insta-tweeting that "Me and my Crew are safe" seems chicken shit to me.  Maybe get behind something and use his speaker system to help people?  Taking cover and leaving the crowd to fend for itself seems cowardly. 

2) The crazy bitch who is standing there filming herself talking while people are getting shot behind her... and then includes an insult directed toward Trump as part of her ill informed rant?  Despicable human being.

3) What's with the obsession to constantly film?  There are hundreds or thousands of phone-shot videos of this event.  If where you are is being sprayed with bullets?  Quit filming.  One guy actually filmed himself running out of the event and goes "woman just got shot in the head..."  What is wrong with people. Run, don't look in your camera and try to run.  Idiot. 

4) There's one video were everybody is on the ground and you can see people being hit.  In that crowd there is one guy standing there in a black t-shirt with his arms spread like he's making himself a target and another guy wearing an American flag strap tshirt just standing there dumbfounded.  People are crazy.

5) There was a rumor earlier that the shooter was a Trump hating Bernie supporter.  I don't know what this guy was, but you can bet that:

a) They're going to try to find some way to blame Trump (as the idiot bitch did in her at-the-moment rant)
b) They are going to use this to again promote more gun laws.


6) Speaking of self-involved why do "celebrities" feel the need to make inane comments.  Why would the "official Nickelback Tweeter" tell people at 2 AM when this was four hours past to "get to safety."  Oh, thanks Nickelback.  I was getting to danger until you tweetered.  Or Penn and Teller socially blasting that they were safe.  Again, who gives a fuck?  An ass ton of people are dead, but WHEW!  None of them are Penn or Teller.  Who gives a flying fuck that Paris Hilton is sad or that DJ Chings is shocked or that Trey Songz be upset?  I'm sick of the entire social media concept.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 08:41:36 AM »
I'm sorry, I was taking a selfie.

What were you saying?
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 09:19:35 AM »
Long night at the Snags house.  My daughter is in a show just down the street from the shootings.  She was texting us at 2:00 a.m. from a bathroom where she and the other cast members ran to.  Obviously, crazy rumors were flying (As if 50 people killed isn't crazy enough) and they were hearing there was a shooter at every casino on the strip.  That's mostly because bloodied people were running into the lobbies of all these hotels seeking cover.  We're headed out there in a few days.  The purpose of that trip just changed a good bit. 
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 09:52:57 AM »
A fully automatic machine gun was used, which is incredibly difficult to get due to the Hughes Amendment of 1986, despite anything you may hear today. Also if you hear the words "semi-automatic" or "assualt rifle" in relation to this, it's a safe bet that those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 10:03:55 AM »
A fully automatic machine gun was used, which is incredibly difficult to get due to the Hughes Amendment of 1986, despite anything you may hear today. Also if you hear the words "semi-automatic" or "assualt rifle" in relation to this, it's a safe bet that those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

Yep.

Anyone that knows anything about a gun can hear the gun in the video and know that it isn't something you buy at wal mart. It sounded more like war footage than a citizen shooting - ak47/m16ish. 100s of rounds in just a few mins. This guy was a sick puppy. An automatic gun like that is usually something only law enforcement or military have. Also hard to get even on the black weapons market. So yeah. Nuts.

Not to politicize either but....it's also proof that criminals don't obey gun laws. Which will play into the narrative you mentioned above of "ommagerd these semis and assault rifles got to be banned!!"
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2017, 10:31:12 AM »
First, it sounded belt fed.

Second, I saw Hillary tweet something about "imagine if he had used a silencer" and I want to scream every time I hear someone say that.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 10:38:17 AM »
First, it sounded belt fed.

Second, I saw Hillary tweet something about "imagine if he had used a silencer" and I want to scream every time I hear someone say that.

She is dumb as a fuck rock. 

Sorry GH but we have to politicize this.  They sure as shit will. 
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2017, 12:51:09 PM »
She is dumb as a fuck rock. 

Sorry GH but we have to politicize this.  They sure as shit will.

They will. Because of totalitarian rule #1 that the mayor of Chicago loves to use - never let a good crisis go to waste.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2017, 01:06:35 PM »
A fully automatic machine gun was used, which is incredibly difficult to get due to the Hughes Amendment of 1986, despite anything you may hear today. Also if you hear the words "semi-automatic" or "assualt rifle" in relation to this, it's a safe bet that those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.


Not difficult to convert a weapon to make it fully auto if you know what to do.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2017, 01:16:10 PM »

Not difficult to convert a weapon to make it fully auto if you know what to do.

Still HIGHLY illegal!

Law abiding citizens know better than to even try.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 01:20:36 PM »

Not difficult to convert a weapon to make it fully auto if you know what to do.

Go research that and let me know how quick the Feds are at your door.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 01:21:01 PM »
1.Still HIGHLY illegal!

2Law abiding citizens know better than to even try.


1.That it is.
2. I know folks (Old army buddies) who have done this just for pleasure shooting on their land. We you get to shoot some of weapons we got to play with, a regular AR-15 is kind of boring. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 01:21:24 PM »
Go research that and let me know how quick the Feds are at your door.

I was taught in military how to do it. And you don't have to buy one thing.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 01:22:56 PM »
I was taught in military how to do it. And you don't have to buy one thing.

Why? M16s are already automatic. It's pretty much an automatic ar no?

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 01:25:43 PM »

1.That it is.
2. I know folks (Old army buddies) who have done this just for pleasure shooting on their land. We you get to shoot some of weapons we got to play with, a regular AR-15 is kind of boring.

oh look.
see dallas shoot.
bam! bam! bam!
see the holes in the target.

see dallas shoot.
yes he can.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 01:27:38 PM »
Why? M16s are already automatic. It's pretty much an automatic ar no?

Yes, but we were taught that trick for civilian weapons should that need arise.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2017, 01:30:15 PM »
Yes, but we were taught that trick for civilian weapons should that need arise.

Have they said what the actual gun was yet?
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2017, 01:39:15 PM »

1.That it is.
2. I know folks (Old army buddies) who have done this just for pleasure shooting on their land. We you get to shoot some of weapons we got to play with, a regular AR-15 is kind of boring.

I know it is fun and some guys do it. But if you get caught, that is one thing the feds do not play about! Unless you are a gang banger. Then I reckon its expected...
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2017, 01:43:34 PM »
Have they said what the actual gun was yet?

I read he had ten weapons, if they have said what they were I missed that part.
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Re: Vegas shooting
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2017, 03:02:13 PM »
I read he had ten weapons, if they have said what they were I missed that part.

Sounded like he was rotating them all during the pauses. But the fire was definately FA. AND large magazines. It's tough watching some of these videos. Those folks were just sitting ducks. And now knowing where he was in the videos? That's just creepy.
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