Should It Be The End For JJ?

[chinook]

Season ticket holders can now get a refund for their basketball tickets. Honestly the first good thing the Athletic Department has done lately...

i completely disagree with a refund.  haste decision.   

[AUTailgatingRules]

i completely disagree with a refund.  haste decision.   

Most likey because we won't be playing any games there this year. Or the next, or the next or the next.....

[RottenBottom]

i completely disagree with a refund.  haste decision.   

I'm seeing it as the compliance department predicting this is going to implicate the program more as a whole than we think. They have already hired two guys from Montgomery to come review the situation to find out who knew what and when they knew it. The refunds make me feel like we won't be keeping Bruce much longer

[Godfather]

I'm seeing it as the compliance department predicting this is going to implicate the program more as a whole than we think. They have already hired two guys from Montgomery to come review the situation to find out who knew what and when they knew it. The refunds make me feel like we won't be keeping Bruce much longer

Ugh...you could be right.

[Godfather]

honestly, for y'all analyzing each incident and making a decision whether it's fire-able or not is fine.  justifiable conversation but for some it appears you move along still waiting for the mythical rainbow colored unicorn to jump out with a fire-able offense banner. how much latitude are you willing to give?  how much bullshit will you allow to destroy our university?  enough is enough with Jay.  he needs to go now! 

i agree with snaggle's and jarhead's post completely.

This is twue.

[GH2001]

Ugh...you could be right.

2nd that.

I don't think they would be that haste (as nook put it) for no reason. Not this quickly.

[GH2001]

The screwing of the ticketholders is the worst to me. 

My grandparents and then my parents had season tickets from the 70s. Before there was even an upper deck.  Until Jacobs. 

Every year he asked for a bigger and bigger contribution or they'd either be moved somewhere else (upper deck) or put on a wait list.  Sometimes even a bigger contribution than they'd given the year before wouldn't be enough to keep them off the wait list.  My dad couldn't physically handle the walk to the upper deck.

Neither of my parents graduated from Auburn.  My brother and sister did and my daughter has.  But still my parents gave money. They bought bricks. They bought the 1x1 spots on the field for all of us.  Almost every time Auburn came with its hand out, they responded.  They weren't Jimmy Rane or Uncle Milt. But they answered almost every call.

That wasn't good enough for Jacobs' new Auburn. They eventually gave their tickets up. 

That's not the way that should work.

Can't disagree with any of that. I finally gave mine up after the 12 season. I could pay that anymore with what I was seeing in return.

[Godfather]

Can't disagree with any of that. I finally gave mine up after the 12 season. I could pay that anymore with what I was seeing in return.

The problem is they charge the donation per ticket.  It used to be you could partner with someone who was already paying the donation and just have them order extra tickets.  Not no more.

[GH2001]

The problem is they charge the donation per ticket.  It used to be you could partner with someone who was already paying the donation and just have them order extra tickets.  Not no more.

For the seats I had it had gotten to 600 a seat and I had 4. So I was shelling out about 2500 bucks before I even had the right to buy one single ticket. Combine that with what happened in 2012 and it was an easy decision. Much like K my family had those seats for over 20 years but enough was enough.

2500 may be chump change for snags to have free reign at Teasers Gentlemens Club off highway 84 (the door guy can get him in free when he ain't on his cellphone wink wink) but it prices common men like Dallas out.

[dallaswareagle]

Can't disagree with any of that. I finally gave mine up after the 12 season. I could pay that anymore with what I was seeing in return.

 

Always room for one more in the common man club. 

[Snaggletiger]

honestly, for y'all analyzing each incident and making a decision whether it's fire-able or not is fine.  justifiable conversation but for some it appears you move along still waiting for the mythical rainbow colored unicorn to jump out with a fire-able offense banner. how much latitude are you willing to give?  how much bullshit will you allow to destroy our university?  enough is enough with Jay.  he needs to go now! 

i agree with snaggle's and jarhead's post completely.

Bluto's right!

[WiregrassTiger]

Gotta say the same thing Kaos said about the softball thing.  There are a lot of things Jacobs should be fired for, this isn't one of them.

^^This. Can't hang Meyers or Persons on JJ.

I don't think I would miss him but I think to fire him over either of these is wrong.

Overall, he's very mediocre imo. You could train a monkey to raise this much money at AU. He's made some damn good hires and some damn bad ones.

And #1, Gus ain't looking too spiffy right now. Could turn out ok but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Unless more bad stuff comes out about their knowing, don't hang this on Pearl or JJ.

[Snaggletiger]

^^This. Can't hang Meyers or Persons on JJ.

I don't think I would miss him but I think to fire him over either of these is wrong.

Overall, he's very mediocre imo. You could train a monkey to raise this much money at AU. He's made some damn good hires and some damn bad ones.

And #1, Gus ain't looking to spiffy right now. Could turn out ok but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Unless more bad stuff comes out about their knowing, don't hang this on Pearl or JJ.

WT say wut?

Like Jar or Nook or somebody said earlier, it's become a pattern.  Hard to list all the failed hires and scandals under his watch.  Eventually you just have to cut ties. 

[AUJarhead]

He's made some damn good hires and some damn bad ones.

Give me a list of the good ones, please. If Butch Thompson is at the top, remind yourself that he's had one season.

[Snaggletiger]

Give me a list of the good ones, please. If Butch Thompson is at the top, remind yourself that he's had one season.

Cut him some slack.  He really likes the name Butch.

[chinook]

^^This. Can't hang Meyers or Persons on JJ.

I don't think I would miss him but I think to fire him over either of these is wrong.

Overall, he's very mediocre imo. You could train a monkey to raise this much money at AU. He's made some damn good hires and some damn bad ones.

And #1, Gus ain't looking too spiffy right now. Could turn out ok but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Unless more bad stuff comes out about their knowing, don't hang this on Pearl or JJ.

good grief.  my head is going to explode.  he's at the helm of our athletic department...many corporate heads, military leaders and other executive directors get fired by some peon in accounting. 

he needs eyes and ears around the department to prevent this shit...in these cases he didn't.  all of this could have been prevented. 

[Kaos]

good grief.  my head is going to explode.  he's at the helm of our athletic department...many corporate heads, military leaders and other executive directors get fired by some peon in accounting. 

he needs eyes and ears around the department to prevent this shit...in these cases he didn't.  all of this could have been prevented.

I have no doubt he means well. He’s simply not qualified for this job. He never was. Not his fault really. A man with his qualifications should never have been hired.  He probably thinks he’s doing a good job.

He’s never been away from Auburn. He has no experience. Much like gus he has no mentors. He’s never been exposed to anything from which he could learn other than his own insular crew of yes men and sting pullers.

Ignore that he was always at Auburn.  Strike the college name from his resume. Would a junior college have hired someone with his background as AD?  I don’t think so.

I don’t hate him personally.  And we are right that each individual strand won’t hold his weight in a hanging. But if you put all those strings together it’s a hell of a noose.

[WiregrassTiger]

good grief.  my head is going to explode.  he's at the helm of our athletic department...many corporate heads, military leaders and other executive directors get fired by some peon in accounting. 

he needs eyes and ears around the department to prevent this shit...in these cases he didn't.  all of this could have been prevented.

Actually, they don't usually get fired. It doesn't roll uphill, usually.

At least I haven't experienced it. Worked with 3 fortune 500s for 20+ and never saw Ed get fired for what Bob in accounting did.

If you start firing the boss for underlings stupid actions, it's never ending.

There is no way that I see that ANYONE could've prevented what Persons did.

I don't like JJ on a personal level. Find him to be a jerk. Very similar to many posters on here in that he's not qualified. But, this isn't one to hang on him.

The Meyers, Thompson and Pearl were all good hires. Sure, it's too soon to tell how they turn out but I approve the hire. Which matters more than most.

[AUJarhead]

Here is a list of all Auburn Varsity Sports, along with the current head coach.  If the head coach prior to this one was a Jacobs hire, I also list them.

Auburn Tigers Baseball
  John Pawlowski    5 seasons, 167–126 (1 NCAA)
  Sunny Golloway    2 seasons, 62–50 (1 NCAA)
  Butch Thompson 2 seasons, 60–58 (1 NCAA)

Auburn Tigers Men's Basketball
  Tony Barbee, 4 Seasons, 49-75
  Bruce Pearl, 3 Seasons, 44-54

Auburn Tigers Women's Basketball
  Terri Williams-Flournoy 5 seasons,  88–76 (2 NIT, 2 NCAA)

Auburn Tigers Equestrian
Greg Williams was not a Jay Jacobs Hire

Auburn Tigers Football
Gene Chizik 4 seasons, 33–19 (1 BCS, 1 SEC, 3 bowl games)
Gus Malzhan 5 seasons, 38–19 (1 SEC, 4 Bowl Games)

Auburn Men's Golf
Nick Clinard 9th Season (6 NCAAs)

Auburn Women's Golf
Melissa Luellen 3rd Season (1 NCAA)

Auburn Gymnastics
Jeff Graba 7th Season 72-88-1 (3 time SEC coach of the year, 1 Super Six)

Auburn Women's Soccer
Karen Hoppa was not a Jay Jacobs Hire

Auburn Softball
Clint Myers, 4 seasons, 205-53-1 (4 NCAA)
Mickey Dean, 1st season, 0-0

Auburn Swimming & Diving
Richard Quick (1 NCAA Title)
Brett Hawke 8 seasons (3 SEC Titles)

Auburn Men's Tennis
Bobby Reynolds 2 seasons (1 NCAA Doubles Appearance)

Auburn Women's Tennis
Lauren Spencer 7 seasons 109-66 (AU All time Winningest Coach, 3 NCAA)

Auburn Track & Field, Cross Country
Ralph Spry was not a Jay Jacobs Hire

Auburn Volleyball
Rick Nold 7th season 93-89 (3 NCAAs)

So where would you rank the hires?

[WiregrassTiger]

Here is a list of all Auburn Varsity Sports, along with the current head coach.  If the head coach prior to this one was a Jacobs hire, I also list them.

Auburn Tigers Baseball
  John Pawlowski    5 seasons, 167–126 (1 NCAA)
  Sunny Golloway    2 seasons, 62–50 (1 NCAA)
  Butch Thompson 2 seasons, 60–58 (1 NCAA)

Auburn Tigers Men's Basketball
  Tony Barbee, 4 Seasons, 49-75
  Bruce Pearl, 3 Seasons, 44-54

Auburn Tigers Women's Basketball
  Terri Williams-Flournoy 5 seasons,  88–76 (2 NIT, 2 NCAA)

Auburn Tigers Equestrian
Greg Williams was not a Jay Jacobs Hire

Auburn Tigers Football
Gene Chizik 4 seasons, 33–19 (1 BCS, 1 SEC, 3 bowl games)
Gus Malzhan 5 seasons, 38–19 (1 SEC, 4 Bowl Games)

Auburn Men's Golf
Nick Clinard 9th Season (6 NCAAs)

Auburn Women's Golf
Melissa Luellen 3rd Season (1 NCAA)

Auburn Gymnastics
Jeff Graba 7th Season 72-88-1 (3 time SEC coach of the year, 1 Super Six)

Auburn Women's Soccer
Karen Hoppa was not a Jay Jacobs Hire

Auburn Softball
Clint Myers, 4 seasons, 205-53-1 (4 NCAA)
Mickey Dean, 1st season, 0-0

Auburn Swimming & Diving
Richard Quick (1 NCAA Title)
Brett Hawke 8 seasons (3 SEC Titles)

Auburn Men's Tennis
Bobby Reynolds 2 seasons (1 NCAA Doubles Appearance)

Auburn Women's Tennis
Lauren Spencer 7 seasons 109-66 (AU All time Winningest Coach, 3 NCAA)

Auburn Track & Field, Cross Country
Ralph Spry was not a Jay Jacobs Hire

Auburn Volleyball
Rick Nold 7th season 93-89 (3 NCAAs)

So where would you rank the hires?

Look dude, I don't care where they are ranked. I'm just saying no one could control Persons doing this or the Meyers boy's actions. I've seen it up close and personal on many occasions.
I listed what I think were 3 good hires. That is all the effort that I care to put into it, unless paid. Then, I'll school you some more.