Should It Be The End For JJ?

[Snaggletiger]

dot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. piece.  I know we all want him gone.  If he were the AD at say, Tennessee, and you read this, would you believe the AD needs to hit the bricks?


By Creg Stephenson,
 cstephenson@al.com
 

Another gamble hire appears to have blown up in Jay Jacobs' face.

First off, let's be clear -- Jacobs is not tied to the federal bribery and corruption charges facing assistant basketball assistant coach Chuck Person, which were announced by the FBI on Tuesday.

But Jacobs hired Bruce Pearl. And Pearl hired Person.

It's never a good day when one of your employees' names shows up in a wide-ranging federal investigation. It remains to be seen what ultimately will come of all this, but Jacobs could wind up as collateral damage.

The case against Jacobs remaining as Auburn's athletic director continues to grow. And it's about more than just Tuesday's FBI bombshell.

Pearl was under a soon-to-expire NCAA show-cause order when Jacobs hired him, stemming from Pearl's time at Tennessee. Hiring a coach still under "show cause" was virtually unprecedented, but Jacobs did it anyway.

Until now, Pearl had avoided off-court scandal. And while he's revived interest in the Auburn basketball program, his teams have been mediocre.

Pearl's not named in the initial justice department charges either, though it's difficult to see how he can avoid being tarnished by this. Ditto for the man who hired him.

Adding this on top of the recent softball scandal -- in which Jacobs has admitted he "could have been more forthcoming" regarding the real reasons for assistant coach Corey Myers' midseason resignation and head coach Clint Myers' sudden "retirement" -- and Jacobs certainly should be worried.

Jacobs also hired former baseball coach Sunny Golloway, who accomplished the difficult task of making nearly every person he met during his tenure pretty much hate his guts (which he had also apparently done in his previous stop at Oklahoma). That's another example of a gamble hire that turned out disastrously.

Football has not endured a major (or at least provable) off-field scandal in the last several years, but has not shown much growth under Gus Malzahn, another Jacobs hire. Malzahn was hired (1) to close the gap on Alabama and (2) because he was an offensive guru who would light up the scoreboard. He's done neither, at least not consistently. In fact, he's 0-6 the last three years against Alabama and Georgia, Auburn's other big rival.

Jacobs' supporters will note that Auburn athletics is making money like never before. But that can be largely explained away by the huge checks the SEC Network continues to issue to member schools. It certainly doesn't cancel out the growing list of embarrassments that have occurred under Jacobs' watch.

So is this the end for Jay Jacobs? Should it be?

[WiregrassTiger]

I'm not pinning this latest fiasco on Coach P or JJ.

It's all on Persons from what I've seen so far. That's not to say that either won't catch collateral from it. I just don't think they deserve it for hiring the guy.

JJ's job should depend on how Gus finishes though.

[GH2001]

Auburn is raking in money DESPITE his ineptness. That's a better way to put it.

[dallaswareagle]

Does having someone arrested by the FBI give us double or triple points in the fulmer cup?

[RottenBottom]

Why did Steven Leath release this statement? Shouldn't that be Jay Jacobs job? Or is he slowly being relieved of duties?

http://www.eagleeyeauburn.com/article/2017/09/auburn-assistant-basketball-coach-to-be-charged-in-bribery-case

Auburn, Ala. (EETV) - Auburn Associate Head Men's Basketball Coach Chuck Person has been listed as a defendant in a federal bribery case. He has also been suspended without pay from the university.

The case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney's office for the southern district of New York.

According to legal documents, the charges result from a scheme involving bribery, corruption, and fraud in intercollegiate athletics.

According to the report below, that in the fall of 2016 Chuck Person participated in a bribery scheme in which he successfully directed student-athletes to retain services of a specific financial advisor and business manager.

EETV will live stream a press conference at noon with the U.S. Attorney's office for the southern district of New York.

In response to the charges, Auburn University released the following statement:

"This morning’s news is shocking. We are saddened, angry and disappointed. We have suspended Coach Person without pay effective immediately. We are committed to playing by the rules, and that’s what we expect from our coaches. In the meantime, Auburn is working closely with law enforcement, and we will help them in their investigation in any way we can."

Auburn University President Steven Leath released the same statement in a series of tweets.

[Godfather]

So is this the end for Jay Jacobs? Should it be?

Gotta say the same thing Kaos said about the softball thing.  There are a lot of things Jacobs should be fired for, this isn't one of them.

[AUChizad]

Gotta say the same thing Kaos said about the softball thing.  There are a lot of things Jacobs should be fired for, this isn't one of them.

Not to play Devil's Advocate too much, but on the surface, I definitely agree with this, just like I did with the Meyers scandal.

But as irrational and unreasonable on a practical level that it may be, I can see the "pattern" here being justification. Pearl and Meyers were his trademark grand-slam A+ hires on paper and BOTH of them are gonna end in scandal within weeks of each other, setting each program back to at least where they were before they were hired.

Hindsight is 20/20. I wanted Rifleman to be our head coach in waiting for when Pearl retired. If I were AD, this shit would be on me. I think Jay probably had just as much knowledge of this as I did. But at a certain point is the "pattern" a problem? Is he not doing something he should be doing in terms of compliance education? Not that this required any kind of educational training program to know was clearly illegal. I dunno.

[Snaggletiger]

Kevin Skrubdinski hit the nail on the head for me when he asked the simple question in his piece from yesterday.  How many scandals can happen on one man's watch before it's time to relieve him of his duties?

This isn't going to stop with Person.  This is going to be long and drawn out and there's going to be nothing we can hide. Not only will the NCAA eventually get around to camping out on the Plains again, but the whole discovery process with the FBI investigation is about to start.  Obviously, the FBI has subpoena power and will have access to anything and everything they want.  If Pearl had knowledge or was involved in any way, they'll find out and he gone.  I think he gone.  No way he couldn't know.  In addition, Person and all the other people charged, are about to start singing like canaries to negotiate lesser penalties. 

IMO, Jacobs needs to be shown the door asap and someone with true AD skills, who can weather the shit storm that's about to come, should be put in place. Don't think these peeps aren't going to be looking for this to spill over into football programs around the country.

[Kaos]

Gotta say the same thing Kaos said about the softball thing.  There are a lot of things Jacobs should be fired for, this isn't one of them.

Twice in the last three months, I'm forced to defend someone for which I have no respect. 

Jacobs is a clown.  But not for this.

[AUJarhead]

Twice in the last three months, I'm forced to defend someone for which I have no respect. 

Jacobs is a clown.  But not for this.

You're right.

But this + softball + ticket scandal + Sonny Galloway Hiring/Firing/Lawsuit + Tony Barbee hiring/firing + David Marsh leaving + Tommy Tuberville firing + Gene Chizik hiring/firing + John Pawlowski hiring/firing + NYT Sociology Class scandal + ...how long do we let this shit go on?...  (you'd also have a hard time convincing me that Jacobs was not involved with JetGate)

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but he's got an established pattern of buffoonery and needs to be out on his ass.

[Snaggletiger]

You're right.

But this + softball + ticket scandal + Sonny Galloway Hiring/Firing/Lawsuit + Tony Barbee hiring/firing + David Marsh leaving + Tommy Tuberville firing + Gene Chizik hiring/firing + John Pawlowski hiring/firing + NYT Sociology Class scandal + ...how long do we let this shit go on?...  (you'd also have a hard time convincing me that Jacobs was not involved with JetGate)

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but he's got an established pattern of buffoonery and needs to be out on his ass.

You had me at hello.

[djsimp]

Gotta say the same thing Kaos said about the softball thing.  There are a lot of things Jacobs should be fired for, this isn't one of them.

But, the way things seem to work at Auburn, this will be what Jacobs will be fired over. No real proof to back it except history.

[AUJarhead]

You had me at hello.

Shit, I forgot about the Basketball Point Shaving Scandal...

[GH2001]

You're right.

But this + softball + ticket scandal + Sonny Galloway Hiring/Firing/Lawsuit + Tony Barbee hiring/firing + David Marsh leaving + Tommy Tuberville firing + Gene Chizik hiring/firing + John Pawlowski hiring/firing + NYT Sociology Class scandal + ...how long do we let this shit go on?...  (you'd also have a hard time convincing me that Jacobs was not involved with JetGate)

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but he's got an established pattern of buffoonery and needs to be out on his ass.

Your post ^^ I want to hump it.

David marsh is the worst one on the list and no one ever mentions it.

[Kaos]

Your post ^^ I want to hump it.

David marsh is the worst one on the list and no one ever mentions it.

The screwing of the ticketholders is the worst to me. 

My grandparents and then my parents had season tickets from the 70s. Before there was even an upper deck.  Until Jacobs. 

Every year he asked for a bigger and bigger contribution or they'd either be moved somewhere else (upper deck) or put on a wait list.  Sometimes even a bigger contribution than they'd given the year before wouldn't be enough to keep them off the wait list.  My dad couldn't physically handle the walk to the upper deck.

Neither of my parents graduated from Auburn.  My brother and sister did and my daughter has.  But still my parents gave money. They bought bricks. They bought the 1x1 spots on the field for all of us.  Almost every time Auburn came with its hand out, they responded.  They weren't Jimmy Rane or Uncle Milt. But they answered almost every call.

That wasn't good enough for Jacobs' new Auburn. They eventually gave their tickets up. 

That's not the way that should work. 

[Godfather]

The screwing of the ticketholders is the worst to me. 

My grandparents and then my parents had season tickets from the 70s. Before there was even an upper deck.  Until Jacobs. 

Every year he asked for a bigger and bigger contribution or they'd either be moved somewhere else (upper deck) or put on a wait list.  Sometimes even a bigger contribution than they'd given the year before wouldn't be enough to keep them off the wait list.  My dad couldn't physically handle the walk to the upper deck.

Neither of my parents graduated from Auburn.  My brother and sister did and my daughter has.  But still my parents gave money. They bought bricks. They bought the 1x1 spots on the field for all of us.  Almost every time Auburn came with its hand out, they responded.  They weren't Jimmy Rane or Uncle Milt. But they answered almost every call.

That wasn't good enough for Jacobs' new Auburn. They eventually gave their tickets up. 

That's not the way that should work.

Damn straight!  Common man priced out!

Signed,
dallaswareagle

[Buzz Killington]

And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.  I was getting some primo seats until you finally called out the shadow.

[chinook]

honestly, for y'all analyzing each incident and making a decision whether it's fire-able or not is fine.  justifiable conversation but for some it appears you move along still waiting for the mythical rainbow colored unicorn to jump out with a fire-able offense banner. how much latitude are you willing to give?  how much bullshit will you allow to destroy our university?  enough is enough with Jay.  he needs to go now! 

i agree with snaggle's and jarhead's post completely.   

[bottomfeeder]

The fact that JJ had a sex change operation doesn't mean that he doesn't like a little pussy every now and then.

[RottenBottom]

The screwing of the ticketholders is the worst to me. 

My grandparents and then my parents had season tickets from the 70s. Before there was even an upper deck.  Until Jacobs. 

Every year he asked for a bigger and bigger contribution or they'd either be moved somewhere else (upper deck) or put on a wait list.  Sometimes even a bigger contribution than they'd given the year before wouldn't be enough to keep them off the wait list.  My dad couldn't physically handle the walk to the upper deck.

Neither of my parents graduated from Auburn.  My brother and sister did and my daughter has.  But still my parents gave money. They bought bricks. They bought the 1x1 spots on the field for all of us.  Almost every time Auburn came with its hand out, they responded.  They weren't Jimmy Rane or Uncle Milt. But they answered almost every call.

That wasn't good enough for Jacobs' new Auburn. They eventually gave their tickets up. 

That's not the way that should work.

Season ticket holders can now get a refund for their basketball tickets. Honestly the first good thing the Athletic Department has done lately...