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"Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"

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« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2017, 12:17:39 PM »
I just got an email from my guy.    He asked his guy and it seems there was never an actual "in your face" confrontation but chip was "livid" at coach doublebubble and let it be known.    This guy is money on his info, so tifwiw

I just talked to a good friend that works security for the coach during the games.  I mentioned the altercation between Gus and Chip. His response, "They have issues but that didn't happen". 
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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2017, 12:24:27 PM »
I just talked to a good friend that works security for the coach during the games.  I mentioned the altercation between Gus and Chip. His response, "They have issues but that didn't happen".

Sources. 

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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2017, 12:25:29 PM »
I just talked to a good friend that works security for the coach during the games.  I mentioned the altercation between Gus and Chip. His response, "They have issues but that didn't happen".

My brother knows a guy that helps with deliveries to the Sudexo Concession stands.  He confirmed that Lakweshia Jenkins, who handles hot dogs and pretzels in the north end zone booth, knows for a fact they were using buns that were well past the "sell by" date.
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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2017, 12:26:01 PM »
AUBURN, Ala. — It’s no secret Gus Malzahn's Auburn teams need time to develop on offense.

The issue usually leads to a frustrating early-season loss, but in his first four years as coordinator or head coach at Auburn, it usually resulted in adjustments and big rebounds, whether it was an impressive first season in 2009, a national title in 2010 or an SEC Championship in his first season as the Tigers’ head coach in 2013.

Those early-season struggles, however, have grown worse and worse in the last three seasons. The three worst starts on offense in Malzahn’s seven seasons as a head coach or coordinator at Auburn have all occurred since 2015.

So, why the constant struggles to start seasons and the need to rebound?

“Just looking at this season, I think the fact that we have a new coordinator,” Malzahn said. “We do have a new quarterback, a couple new guys up front and I think the coordinator is learning his offense, his players are getting used to him and I think that’s really the facts of the matter right now.”

Auburn hired Chip Lindsey to call Auburn’s offense on game days, but it’s clear the offense hasn’t changed much since last season, according to sources. Malzahn is also heavily involved in play calls on game days and the resulting 23.5 points per game is the worst two-game start in Malzahn’s seven-year history at Auburn.

Interestingly, Malzahn has echoed a sentiment every season after his first as the head coach: the coaches have a much better understanding of the offense’s strengths in the preseason. In other words, growing pains should be few.

Instead, the growing pains have been many over the last three years. The 2015 season resulted in the benching of quarterback Jeremy Johnson in the first month of the system. Malzahn didn’t foresee that happening. “No, we have a lot of knowledge,” Malzahn said in a one-on-one interview.

The 2016 season wasn’t much better as the Tigers averaged 24.5 points per game in the first month of the season, including an absolutely baffling game plan in a 19-13 loss against Clemson. Auburn utilized five different players at quarterback.

This year has been much of the same. The Tigers were discombobulated offensively in the opener against Georgia Southern and played its worst game every in Malzahn’s coaching career in the 14-6 loss at Clemson (117 yards, 11 sacks). All of this happened with a new coordinator promising a revamped offense and a five-star quarterback transfer leading the team (Jarrett Stidham).

Why do the struggles continue and why does it seem to grow worse each season? Coaches certainly didn’t expect it.

“I think we've done a nice job during camp of identifying where are strengths are and how we can best utilize those no matter who we're playing,” Lindsey said Aug. 27.

Even when Auburn was successful, Malzahn needed time to tweak the offense. He didn’t quite know what he had in future Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton until the fourth game of the season, a 35-27 victory against South Carolina. Auburn averaged 32.8 points per game in the first month of the season, but accelerated to average 47.1 points in the next nine games as the Tigers went on to win the BCS National Championship.

The same happened in 2013 as the Tigers averaged only 28.5 points per game in the first month. The Tigers were drilled 35-21 at LSU, but rallied in the second half and were within striking distance. Auburn found its identity in the rain, sludge and disappointment. Auburn never quit, and following a fumble by Cameron Artis-Payne, it became clear Tre Mason was the Tigers’ best threat on offense. A bye week followed, and the Tigers went on to win its next nine games while averaging an incredible 328.3 rushing yards to become the first SEC team in history to lead the nation on the ground. Auburn won the SEC title.

Can Auburn experience a similar turnaround or will the trend of struggles spilling into October and beyond over the last two years prove true? Slow starts have led to seven- and eight-win seasons over the last two, including a near-loss to FCS foe Jacksonville State in 2015. The Tigers won six straight games after a slow start in 2016, but injuries to quarterback Sean White and running backs Kamryn Pettway and Kerryon Johnson derailed the season in November.

“I will say this, we are going to improve,” Malzahn said. “We’re going to be a good offense; that is for sure. But that’s [the fans’] frustration and I understand that so it’s natural to say that and I get that and I own that but we are going to improve. You got to look at it really from the big-picture standpoint that [Clemson] is one of the best teams in college football, if not the best, could be.

“We have a very good defense, we have a good kicking game. We’re going to improve on offense and our goals are all still intact. We’re a good football team. Obviously, we didn’t get it done on one side of the football. it’s very frustrating for me it’s very frustrating for our coaches but we have a team that has great leadership. We have a staff that is very close and we’re going to put it in our rearview mirror and we’re going to move forward. Our mind’s on Mercer and we’re going to play well. We need to improve each week and we have the makings of a good football team and that’s what we’re going to do.”

Auburn will likely increase its scoring average against Mercer, an FCS team, Saturday at 3 p.m. CT. The game will be televised on SEC Network Alternate.

Auburn scoring in first month of season under Gus Malzahn

2009: 45.3 points per game
2010: 32.8 ppg
2011: 34.3 ppg
2013: 28.5 ppg
2014: 42.3 ppg
2015: 22 ppg
2016: 24.5 ppg
2017: 23.5 ppg*

* Note: Two games

http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Gus-Malzahns-slow-offensive-starts-continuing-growing-worse-107376254


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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2017, 12:27:12 PM »
I just talked to a good friend that works security for the coach during the games.  I mentioned the altercation between Gus and Chip. His response, "They have issues but that didn't happen".

I have a couple of cans of chloroform and a dishrag.  Can your friend do us a solid prior to the Georgia game at least?
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« Reply #105 on: September 14, 2017, 12:30:57 PM »
I just got an email from my guy.    He asked his guy and it seems there was never an actual "in your face" confrontation but chip was "livid" at coach doublebubble and let it be known.    This guy is money on his info, so tifwiw

Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #106 on: September 14, 2017, 12:31:28 PM »
My brother knows a guy that helps with deliveries to the Sudexo Concession stands.  He confirmed that Lakweshia Jenkins, who handles hot dogs and pretzels in the north end zone booth, knows for a fact they were using buns that were well past the "sell by" date.
See, it is kindergarten bs like this that often turns off the people that are true insiders.

I know I'm tired of this horseshit. :cage:
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« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2017, 12:31:50 PM »
My brother knows a guy that helps with deliveries to the Sudexo Concession stands.  He confirmed that Lakweshia Jenkins, who handles hot dogs and pretzels in the north end zone booth, knows for a fact they were using buns that were well past the "sell by" date.

I thought it was Emma who knew all of this.
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« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2017, 12:42:55 PM »

There is way to much bullshit in there to comment on everyone.

These are the things I know.

1) Gus really has no idea what is wrong
2) Since he doesn't know, he doesn't know how to fix it
3) He is out of ideas. He knows one thing and keeps trying to hammer all shapes of pegs into his square holes
4) He cannot evaluate talent. If Roc doesn't quit and Kerryon doesn't get hurt we never hear of pettaway.
5) He beats his RB to death.  Look at Tre.  It's a miracle he wasn't killed in 2013 the number of carries he got.
6) He isn't a head coach.  He's not serving himself well as an OC.   
7) if I were a player? I'd tune his ass out.  His job is to put our players and coaches in a position to succeed. He has failed miserably at that.  In that respect I'd say he's in a worst coach pile that includes fatty, stumblin, life champ and shark rider.
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« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2017, 12:47:10 PM »
These are the things I know.

1) Gus really has no idea what is wrong
2) Since he doesn't know, he doesn't know how to fix it
3) He is out of ideas. He knows one thing and keeps trying to hammer all shapes of pegs into his square holes
4) He cannot evaluate talent. If Roc doesn't quit and Kerryon doesn't get hurt we never hear of pettaway.
5) He beats his RB to death.  Look at Tre.  It's a miracle he wasn't killed in 2013 the number of carries he got.
6) He isn't a head coach.  He's not serving himself well as an OC.   
7) if I were a player? I'd tune his ass out.  His job is to put our players and coaches in a position to succeed. He has failed miserably at that.  In that respect I'd say he's in a worst coach pile that includes fatty, stumblin, life champ and shark rider.
finally, somebody wanting to be a grownup and talk football...thank you.... i can't disagree with one word that you wrote and it  is now obvious that the program is in dire straits with the possibility of a collapse due to the ineptness, arrogance and egotism of Gus Malzahn.    I really am losing hope for a decent season now and i actually think he should be let go now
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« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2017, 12:54:32 PM »
I really am losing hope for a decent season now and i actually think he should be let go now

Do you really trust the old lesbian running the AD to make a quality hire?  I don't like Gus either, but I don't see why making a change now will result in us being anything more than a 7-6/8-5 team over the next 4 or 5 seasons.
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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #111 on: September 14, 2017, 01:09:26 PM »
Do you really trust the old lesbian running the AD to make a quality hire?  I don't like Gus either, but I don't see why making a change now will result in us being anything more than a 7-6/8-5 team over the next 4 or 5 seasons.
Please round off all fractions.
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« Reply #112 on: September 14, 2017, 01:12:10 PM »
Please round off all fractions.

It was my understanding that there would be no math.
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« Reply #113 on: September 14, 2017, 01:13:30 PM »
finally, somebody wanting to be a grownup and talk football...thank you.... i can't disagree with one word that you wrote and it  is now obvious that the program is in dire straits with the possibility of a collapse due to the ineptness, arrogance and egotism of Gus Malzahn.    I really am losing hope for a decent season now and i actually think he should be let go now

What's the vetting process around here?

I just had a greasy weasel flashback. 
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« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2017, 01:14:24 PM »
Do you really trust the old lesbian running the AD to make a quality hire?  I don't like Gus either, but I don't see why making a change now will result in us being anything more than a 7-6/8-5 team over the next 4 or 5 seasons.
Like I said Gus won't be fired with a 7-5 or 8-4 showing thanks to JJ hey you suck want to get a large buyout?
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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2017, 01:19:49 PM »
Like I said Gus won't be fired with a 7-5 or 8-4 showing thanks to JJ hey you suck want to get a large buyout?

Agreed.  And we slip further towards being Mississippi State.
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« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2017, 01:20:14 PM »
it is my understanding that one man has offered to write the check.    who that is, i have no idea?       i do know that the drums are beating, and i was told to watch the higher profile AU folks and how they act in the public light.    Barring a miracle, we will have a new coach next year
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Re: "Auburn fans feel lied to....no longer trust Gus"
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2017, 01:20:28 PM »
Like I said Gus won't be fired with a 7-5 or 8-4 showing thanks to JJ hey you suck want to get a large buyout?

My biggest fear is that Jacobs stays, Gus is let go, we hire a million dollar search firm, jay talks about hiring the best possible fit and a nationwide search and sometime around Christmas he will name Dameyune Craig or Lashlee or Steve Ensminger.
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« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2017, 01:23:42 PM »
My biggest fear is that Jacobs stays, Gus is let go, we hire a million dollar search firm, jay talks about hiring the best possible fit and a nationwide search and sometime around Christmas he will name Dameyune Craig or Lashlee or Steve Ensminger.

That's exactly why I don't want Jacobs running another coaching search.  We will spend 20M to get rid of Gus this year, and then end up with someone who is, at best, a lateral move.
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« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2017, 01:25:18 PM »
My biggest fear is that Jacobs stays, Gus is let go, we hire a million dollar search firm, jay talks about hiring the best possible fit and a nationwide search and sometime around Christmas he will name Dameyune Craig or Lashlee or Steve Ensminger.
that, my friend, is my concern.    you have no idea how much i loathe this guy ( not personally, but as an AD).....this guy had as much business being AD and my pecker does being in a porno film
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