No collusion happened with Trump's team & Russia...

[Kaos]

I don't know that there's been any cover up that would constitute anything illegal.  Hypothetically, if Trump wanted to pay these two hurs himself to, A.) Keep getting his knob schlobbed a private matter and away from his hot wife, and/or, 2.) Keep them from going public during the campaign...then whatever.  That's his business and strictly a moral issue.  But, if his lawyer did in fact, take care of the $130K payment for the purpose of keeping Stormy quiet during the campaign, I think it can be argued that this is in violation of campaign finance laws.  That would strictly be Cohen's problem.
You have two hurs here.  One had no agreement (That I know of) to keep quiet.  She sold her story about polishing the Trump Tower to The Enquirer for $150K.  The CEO of said rag is tight with Trump so he sat on the story.  Said Playboy hur got pissed and still went public and I believe also sued The Enquirer.  Second pern hur played the Trump skin flute and the story to this point is that Cohen paid her off for a non-disclosure agreement, which she's completely ignored.  Since the story is out, he ought to drag her ass to Court.
My opinion on what's going to come of it is they'll ultimately find that Cohen was falling on the sword for Trump, but The Donald was the one that financed the deal and just had Cohen draw up zee papers.  If that's the case, then it's move along, nothing to see here.

There's never been anything to see.  
Trump is right.  Witch hunt.  The establishment didn't want him to win (both parties) and they are doing their best to destroy him.  
Everything he's doing is working, though.  Every decision he makes is the right one for the country.  I admire the man for keeping his head on, his head straight and doing the damn job.  He's the anti-Obama so far, thank God. 

[The Prowler]

The raids were also looking into information involving Trump and Cohen's communication about the Access Hollywood tape.

[The Prowler]

There's never been anything to see.  
Trump is right.  Witch hunt.  The establishment didn't want him to win (both parties) and they are doing their best to destroy him.  
Everything he's doing is working, though.  Every decision he makes is the right one for the country.  I admire the man for keeping his head on, his head straight and doing the damn job.  He's the anti-Obama so far, thank God.

[War Eagle!!!]

Mueller didn't order the raid.  He referred something he found (presumably indicia of a crime) to the US Attorney for the SDNY.  That Attorney decided to pursue his own investigation.  There are, as of now, two independent investigations happening.

The raids were also looking into information involving Trump and Cohen's communication about the Access Hollywood tape.

I'm shocked...shocked I tell you.

[The Prowler]

I'm shocked...shocked I tell you.

Shocked to know that the FBI also seized Cohen's taped conversations or that other people were paid hush money? It's possible they were looking for a particular conversation or two between Cohen and Trump regarding Stormy Daniels (one that might've involved something about her being threatened or about hush money to her and someone else).

[Kaos]

Shocked to know that the FBI also seized Cohen's taped conversations or that other people were paid hush money? It's possible they were looking for a particular conversation or two between Cohen and Trump regarding Stormy Daniels (one that might've involved something about her being threatened or about hush money to her and someone else).

You're still part of the problem.  
If you'd dig your head out of your peanut butt you'd realize Trump is doing a fantastic job as president.  He's knocking it completely out of the park.  All of this nonsense from Mueller, Comey and the rest is nothing but white noise intended to distract from just how freaking awesome he's doing.  

[War Eagle!!!]

Shocked to know that the FBI also seized Cohen's taped conversations or that other people were paid hush money? It's possible they were looking for a particular conversation or two between Cohen and Trump regarding Stormy Daniels (one that might've involved something about her being threatened or about hush money to her and someone else).

Shocked to know that the guy that was hired to investigate collusion with Russia to to interfere in our election is now worried about hush money to a porn star or grabbing someone by the pussy. Seems like a bit of a let down after we were promised that Trump stole the White House with Russian help.

[wesfau2]

But, if his lawyer did in fact, take care of the $130K payment for the purpose of keeping Stormy quiet during the campaign, I think it can be argued that this is in violation of campaign finance laws.  That would strictly be Cohen's problem.

To believe that it's solely Cohen's problem you have to presume that Cohen, of his own volition and without discussing the matter with DT, took it upon himself to pay off Daniels.  With the presidential election looming. 

I'm a nice guy and I look out for my clients, but I'm not volunteering that chunk of cheddar out of my pocket unbeknownst to my client and without discussing the potential ramifications of said payment.  Would you?

My opinion on what's going to come of it is they'll ultimately find that Cohen was falling on the sword for Trump, but The Donald was the one that financed the deal and just had Cohen draw up zee papers.  If that's the case, then it's move along, nothing to see here.

Conspiracy to violate federal election laws. 

[War Eagle!!!]

Conspiracy to violate federal election laws.

So we have moved on from Russia?

[Snaggletiger]

To believe that it's solely Cohen's problem you have to presume that Cohen, of his own volition and without discussing the matter with DT, took it upon himself to pay off Daniels.  With the presidential election looming.  

I'm a nice guy and I look out for my clients, but I'm not volunteering that chunk of cheddar out of my pocket unbeknownst to my client and without discussing the potential ramifications of said payment.  Would you?
Conspiracy to violate federal election laws.

Oh I agree.  Like I said, I believe it all came from Trump through Cohen. Ultimately though, the question for me is that if Trump had just met with Stormy and paid her the hush money, would it then be nothing more than a moral issue for him and not cross over to the criminal realm?  I can't say I'm well versed in campaign finance laws by any means, but I've heard a lot of talk on Cohen's alleged payment to her being a violation.  His "covering" for Trump is far more of a problem than if Trump had given her $130 G's and said keep your cock gobbler closed.

[Snaggletiger]

So we have moved on from Russia?

Long since moved on.  My thoughts are that the whole Russia thing turned out to be a dead end so what's happening now is Mueller and Co. are going to systematically take down anyone close to Trump until they get to him.  And they'll do it by any means necessary, whether it's illegally obtaining a FISA warrant or raiding an attorneys office to steal privileged information. The whole Russia investigation was never just about Russia.  It was about taking down Donald Trump with anything they can find.  They're just getting started. 

[wesfau2]

So we have moved on from Russia?

Two.
Separate.
Investigations.

Mueller =/= US ATTY SDNY

Mueller passed along indicia of a crime and the SDNY pursued it. 

[Kaos]

Long since moved on.  My thoughts are that the whole Russia thing turned out to be a dead end so what's happening now is Mueller and Co. are going to systematically take down anyone close to Trump until they get to him.  And they'll do it by any means necessary, whether it's illegally obtaining a FISA warrant or raiding an attorneys office to steal privileged information. The whole Russia investigation was never just about Russia.  It was about taking down Donald Trump with anything they can find.  They're just getting started.

That's the problem.  

There's a real difference between looking into an issue and having the agenda to find something, anything, anywhere to damage a man because the people pushing you don't like/fear him.  

Apply this same scrutiny to Obama, Acorn, Rev. Wright and that jug-eared fool is sitting in prison somewhere and his water buffalo wife is up to 500 pounds snacking on pork skins and bean dip.  

What is happening here is the classic definition of a witch hunt.  

Take Comey.  He's so ridiculously dumb that he's misconstruing simple quotes and using them to try to defame Trump.  

This, for instance:
When the Hillary humping DNC financed that fake report that included allegations about Russian prostitutes (you know, the thing Prowler thinks is real) Trump demanded an investigation.  
This is Comey's view:
"It bothered [President Trump] if there was 'even a one percent chance' his wife, Melania, thought it was true," Comey wrote,according to the New York Post. Later on, Comey mused: "In what kind of marriage, to what kind of man, does a spouse conclude there is only a 99 percent chance her husband didn’t do that?"

That's not what Trump meant AT ALL.  Not that he thought she'd 99% believe it, but that if there was even the REMOTEST chance she thought it might have some credibility he wanted it debunked.  Only a moron filled with binding hatred could hear than and conclude what he did.  


Comey is a fool.  Mueller is an overreaching activist.  Every bit of their attack philosophy is wrong and if you defend it, so are you.  

[War Eagle!!!]

Long since moved on.  My thoughts are that the whole Russia thing turned out to be a dead end so what's happening now is Mueller and Co. are going to systematically take down anyone close to Trump until they get to him.  And they'll do it by any means necessary, whether it's illegally obtaining a FISA warrant or raiding an attorneys office to steal privileged information. The whole Russia investigation was never just about Russia.  It was about taking down Donald Trump with anything they can find.  They're just getting started.

I was informed that it's two separate investigations and that we are to perhaps still believe that Russia and the Trump team worked together to take over the White House, in addition to Trump breaking Campaign Finance Laws by paying off some whore that he fucked 12 years ago.

[The Prowler]

Mueller is still investigating Trump campaign and their collusion with Russia.

Two.
Separate.
Investigations.

Mueller =/= US ATTY SDNY

Mueller passed along indicia of a crime and the SDNY pursued it.  

^THIS^

[Snaggletiger]

Mueller is still investigating Trump campaign and their collusion with Russia.
^THIS^

Yep.  And Mueller will make sure there are 3...5....9 more separate investigations aimed at bringing down everybody associated with Trump and eventually, Trump.  When you start draining the swamp, the alligators and other sleazy reptiles get really pissed.  The transparency of this has become embarrassing. 

[wesfau2]

Yep.  And Mueller will make sure there are 3...5....9 more separate investigations aimed at bringing down everybody associated with Trump and eventually, Trump.  When you start draining the swamp, the alligators and other sleazy reptiles get really pissed.  The transparency of this has become embarrassing.

Mueller is duty-bound to refer anything substantive to the appropriate jurisdiction.  It may have the effect of generating more pressure/leverage in Mueller's investigation, but it's part of his job to do so regardless.

Mueller apparently found some evidence that Trump/Cohen conspired to violate federal law (thus rendering their communications and Cohen's files non-privileged), referred it to the US Atty in NY, who had to run it through a procedural wringer to get a judge to sign off on raiding a lawyer's office.  There were multiple opportunities for the legal process to shut this down if it were a merit-less fishing expedition.

[Kaos]

Mueller is duty-bound to refer anything substantive to the appropriate jurisdiction.  It may have the effect of generating more pressure/leverage in Mueller's investigation, but it's part of his job to do so regardless.

Mueller apparently found some evidence that Trump/Cohen conspired to violate federal law (thus rendering their communications and Cohen's files non-privileged), referred it to the US Atty in NY, who had to run it through a procedural wringer to get a judge to sign off on raiding a lawyer's office.  There were multiple opportunities for the legal process to shut this down if it were a merit-less fishing expedition.

The fact that you can't (refuse to) see this for what it is utterly astounds me.  

[WiregrassTiger]

Mueller is duty-bound to refer anything substantive to the appropriate jurisdiction.  It may have the effect of generating more pressure/leverage in Mueller's investigation, but it's part of his job to do so regardless.

Mueller apparently found some evidence that Trump/Cohen conspired to violate federal law (thus rendering their communications and Cohen's files non-privileged), referred it to the US Atty in NY, who had to run it through a procedural wringer to get a judge to sign off on raiding a lawyer's office.  There were multiple opportunities for the legal process to shut this down if it were a merit-less fishing expedition.

I sure hope they never raid your office and find those naked pics.

[Snaggletiger]

House Intelligence Committee just released their year long investigation report and stated zero evidence of any Trump/Russian collusion.