Congressman Shot

[AUChizad]

And just the idea that THIS incident is why we need gun control is so insanely alien to me.

"I'm a violent lunatic who wants to murder elected officials because of their politics but I don't have a gun so I just won't do anything."

If you believe that's what would go through his mind if he couldn't legally buy a gun, you're not thinking rationally.

[Snaggletiger]

And just the idea that THIS incident is why we need gun control is so insanely alien to me.

"I'm a violent lunatic who wants to murder elected officials because of their politics but I don't have a gun so I just won't do anything."

If you believe that's what would go through his mind if he couldn't legally buy a gun, you're not thinking rationally.

Many of the terrorist attacks being carried out these days are done by stabbing, running a vehicle into a crowd, placing an explosive device near a crowd, suicide bomber/car bomb or just flying a plane into a building.  If someone wants to kill as many as possible, they'll find a way to try and accomplish it, gun or no gun. 

[CCTAU]

Many of the terrorist attacks being carried out these days are done by stabbing, running a vehicle into a crowd, placing an explosive device near a crowd, suicide bomber/car bomb or just flying a plane into a building.  If someone wants to kill as many as possible, they'll find a way to try and accomplish it, gun or no gun.

RACIST!

[WiregrassTiger]

So salty.

We'll agree to disagree on this point.

So, it seems Chizzy is standing up for himself and demanding to get on top in this relationship, every once in a while. You go Chizz!

[WiregrassTiger]

If someone, police officer or not, is immediately firing back at him, he's certainly not going to get off 50-100 shots as has been reported.

Fred Sanford could've shot his .32 50-100 times and not hit nothin'.

[The Prowler]

Bullshit. This argument is bullshit.

We've found a rare line where I'm vociferously disagreeing with you.

Most people who own firearms are not fucking Barney Fife. Most people are well trained on how to use their weapon. The notion that if one or more of those senators had a firearm on them then they would have just started shooting aimlessly in 360 degrees, killing/injuring more people than the shooter intended to is not only supported by zero evidence, it is completely preposterous.

That it "would just exacerbate the situation, likely causing more mayhem/casualty" as opposed to the complete absence of any firearms from the "good guys" is a Prowleresque braindead idiotic thing to say, frankly.

Most people are not well trained. You're a fucking moron if you think that. You do realize that people die each year just by cleaning their own gun, right? That's not fucking well trained. Even some police officers aren't well trained.

[WiregrassTiger]

Most people are not well trained. You're a fucking moron if you think that. You do realize that people die each year just by cleaning their own gun, right? That's not fucking well trained. Even some police officers aren't well trained.

If I go off at an x gate, I think I'll use my store bought sling shot.

[Buzz Killington]

Most people are not well trained. You're a fudgeing moron if you think that. You do realize that people die each year just by cleaning their own gun, right? That's not fudgeing well trained. Even some police officers aren't well trained.

Well trained or not, I like my chances against a loony Bernie supporter much better if there is someone else in the area that is carrying.  Those chances go even higher if it's me carrying.

[AUChizad]

Most people are not well trained. You're a fucking moron if you think that. You do realize that people die each year just by cleaning their own gun, right? That's not fucking well trained. Even some police officers aren't well trained.

How many people die in car accidents? NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE CARS!!! MOST PEOPLE DRIVING NEVER PASSED A DRIVER'S EXAM!!!

Jesus dude, you make the dumbfuckiest arguments and then punctuate them with "You're a fucking moron if you think" (factual thing is a factual thing).

24 states, roughly half the country REQUIRE you to take instructional classes before you can purchase a firearm. It's highly encouraged everywhere else, and I don't know one single person who owns a gun who doesn't know how to properly use it.

[CCTAU]

Most people are not well trained. You're a fucking moron if you think that. You do realize that people die each year just by cleaning their own gun, right? That's not fucking well trained. Even some police officers aren't well trained.

Most people who CARRY are well practiced enough to place rounds in the direction that they are being attacked from. Most attackers avoid said rounds. Survival odds increase exponentially.

And you calling anyone a moron is rich...

[Saniflush]

There is an old adage that if you look like food then you will get eaten.  Luckily more and more people are beginning to understand that it is best to not look like food.  After Orlando I got involved in this organization https://www.facebook.com/OperationBlazingSword/ and am proud to say that I have trained a few people who will not willingly be food....except in the in the privacy of their homes/cars/wherever.

Those of you who do not support citizen carry I applaud you for your choice to be food. 
Those of you who support and enact carrying then thank you for making the choice to help if it happens where you are.

[WiregrassTiger]

There is an old adage that if you look like food then you will get eaten.  Luckily more and more people are beginning to understand that it is best to not look like food.  After Orlando I got involved in this organization https://www.facebook.com/OperationBlazingSword/ and am proud to say that I have trained a few people who will not willingly be food....except in the in the privacy of their homes/cars/wherever.

Those of you who do not support citizen carry I applaud you for your choice to be food. 
Those of you who support and enact carrying then thank you for making the choice to help if it happens where you are.

Is this designed specifically for people who frequent gay dance clubs or can others sign up?

[Saniflush]

Is this designed specifically for people who ho frequent gay dance clubs or can others sign up?

I think they send you somewhere for some training first....I think it is on a float.

[chityeah]

I ain't getting killed because I wasn't shooting back.

[Snaggletiger]

I'm built like a double cheeseburger.

[WiregrassTiger]

I think they send you somewhere for some training first....I think it is on a float.

In all seriousness, education on how to use is a very good thing. WT approves.

[Kaos]

How many people die in car accidents? NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE CARS!!! MOST PEOPLE DRIVING NEVER PASSED A DRIVER'S EXAM!!!

Jesus dude, you make the dumbfuckiest arguments and then punctuate them with "You're a fucking moron if you think" (factual thing is a factual thing).

24 states, roughly half the country REQUIRE you to take instructional classes before you can purchase a firearm. It's highly encouraged everywhere else, and I don't know one single person who owns a gun who doesn't know how to properly use it.

I'm gonna bet you know at least (cough, Prowler, cough) one

[Buzz Killington]

I think they send you somewhere for some training first....I think it is on a float.

I thought it was genetics...oh, wait.

[CCTAU]

..and I don't know one single person who owns a gun who doesn't know how to properly use it.

If you change that to "carry", I can agree.


You'd be surprised at how many people own a gun and are not proficient. But we are talking all guns here, not just pistols.


Most folks with guns know enough to point and shoot. And truthfully, that might be all that's needed 99% of the time!

[The Prowler]

How many people die in car accidents? NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE CARS!!! MOST PEOPLE DRIVING NEVER PASSED A DRIVER'S EXAM!!!

Jesus dude, you make the dumbfuckiest arguments and then punctuate them with "You're a fucking moron if you think" (factual thing is a factual thing).

24 states, roughly half the country REQUIRE you to take instructional classes before you can purchase a firearm. It's highly encouraged everywhere else, and I don't know one single person who owns a gun who doesn't know how to properly use it.

Nearly 5.3 Million car accidents per year, so no...most people aren't well trained how to drive, some are yeah, but not most. You proved my point. Also, just because you take instructional classes still doesn't mean you're well trained. Good god, you make the dumbest statements sometimes.

I'll say this again for all the dumbasses on this board. Most people are not well trained on how to properly use their firearm. Just like with people that drive, some are well trained, but not most.