I don't know if RWS made the same semantic mistake as Trump did when he said he was being wiretapped, or if he actually meant they were incidentally surveilled. We pretty much know that much to be factually true at this point.
What I think is likely the case is there was routine surveillance of Russia, someone somewhere in the Democratic party caught wind that there were Trump surrogates (most likely Flynn) on the other end of the line, and figured out a way to obtain that information within legal, although ethically shaky at best, grounds. I think they were able to justify their actions by claiming it was a matter of national security by nature of the fact that Flynn or whoever could possibly be a high-ranking official of the US government should Trump win the election. I think technically that is enough to pass legal muster. I think they may or may not have found information that implicates him in shady activities but made damn sure the media found out that there was interaction between them and a foreign adversarial government if for nothing else than to let the public's imaginations run wild.
All of that is conjecture based on what I've read and heard. But as I've said to trigger Kaos, what I am less sure about is if they actually found dirt or not. If I had to bet odds, I'd say they probably didn't since we haven't heard any specifics yet. But the clock hasn't run out, so we still may. Just can't say for sure at this point.
You're wrapped up in semantics.
Trump is 70 years old. The word "wiretapped" means something to him that the word "surveilled" does not.
Obama illegally spied on them. That's what he meant. That's what he said in his archaic way.
I know things. I've spent a lot of time with a guy in his 70s who was cooperating with the FBI in a corruption investigation. A guy who's now in prison. Don't ask. He used words like that. His truck was "wiretapped." His phone was tapped. His office was wired. Those were words he used. When he had conversations with targets, they accessed his phone, turned it on remotely and recorded everything that was said. That's why he always laid his phone on the table and didn't keep it in his pocket.
You don't have the capacity or the cleverness to "trigger" me. I can't be triggered. You however? Triggerfish. I've done it so many times it's become boring, actually.
What you've gotten right here is taht the democrats pulled shady shit -- as RWS noted -- assuming they'd never have to answer for it because there was no way in hell Trump could possibly win. When he did? Panic.
That's what you're seeing now. Panic. On their part.
If there was something there? They would have used it before the election.
This is exactly like the NCAA in Auburn except YOU'RE now the one running around throwing words like "lack of institutional control" and "probation" when there's no justification for doing it.
You "just can't say" but you have no qualms about referencing treason and impeachment. What a maroon.
End of story.
139 Replies
27125 Views