Emminent Domain

[Kaos]

I am also of two minds on the issue...generally depending on the use to which the taken land will be used.

If it's a necessary infrastructure improvement, then I'm a utilitarian: the needs of the many will outweigh the inconvenience to the few.
Agreed

If it's a developer forcing the municipality's (or other appropriate govt entity) hand, pushing for the land to be put to its "highest and best" use: that developer can eat a bag of dicks.
Also agreed.  Case in point.  Found out Monday that a developer is planning to convert a 360-acre pasture near my house into a subdivision.  I oppose that mainly because the 2000 or so houses in the plan are 15-1800 sq feet and the average size of homes in my neighborhood is 3200 sq ft. There's a possibility that my property value is going to decline.  I'm also opposed because the company that built my house three years ago told me they had a 25-year right of first refusal on the pasture and I could rest assured that it would remain as is and not be developed.  I might not have spent the money to build this house in this location if they hadn't lied.   BUT.. that's not the eminent domain.  In order create the entry way for this new development, the city filed notice with our POA that they intend to claim some of the land owned by our subdivision and jam an access road in three houses down from me.  A road that's going the handle the 4000 or so cars a day in and out of that new subdivision.  I'm in FUCK THAT mode. 

In the case of this article, I disagree with the "assumption of risk" argument and, obviously, the necessity argument.
Here we disagree completely.  While it's not the best solution, the wall is at least A solution.  Until something more effective is proposed to stem the flow of illegals, it's necessary.

[wesfau2]

While it's not the best solution, the wall is at least A solution.  Until something more effective is proposed to stem the flow of illegals, it's necessary.

The "flow of illegals" is a myth.  Net immigration is negative through that border.  Has been for a while.  This is a manufactured "crisis" designed to play on the xenophobia of the heartland base.

[Kaos]

The "flow of illegals" is a myth.  Net immigration is negative through that border.  Has been for a while.  This is a manufactured "crisis" designed to play on the xenophobia of the heartland base.

Wrong.

[GH2001]

I am also of two minds on the issue...generally depending on the use to which the taken land will be used.

If it's a necessary infrastructure improvement, then I'm a utilitarian: the needs of the many will outweigh the inconvenience to the few.

If it's a developer forcing the municipality's (or other appropriate govt entity) hand, pushing for the land to be put to its "highest and best" use: that developer can eat a bag of dicks.

In the case of this article, I disagree with the "assumption of risk" argument and, obviously, the necessity argument.

Sometimes you make so much sense. ^^^


And then sometimes, this down here....

The "flow of illegals" is a myth.  Net immigration is negative through that border.  Has been for a while.  This is a manufactured "crisis" designed to play on the xenophobia of the heartland base.

Hardy manufactured. And most for any border enforcement are hardly xenophobic.

[Snaggletiger]

Sometimes you make so much sense. ^^^


And then sometimes, this down here....

Hardy manufactured. And most for any border enforcement are hardly xenophobic.

I have no idea what the Warrior Princess has to do with any of this. 

[The Prowler]

Wrong.

Around 40% of illegal immigrants come over by plane. Around 65% of all illegal immigrants in the US have now lived here for around 10 years.

Swing and a miss Kaos...go sit down.

[Kaos]

Around 40% of illegal immigrants come over by plane. Around 65% of all illegal immigrants in the US have now lived here for around 10 years.

Swing and a miss Kaos...go sit down.

Wrong wrongitty wrong wrong wrong.

[Snaggletiger]

Around 40% of illegal immigrants come over by plane. Around 65% of all illegal immigrants in the US have now lived here for around 10 years.

Swing and a miss Kaos...go sit down.

Did you just make that shit up?

[The Prowler]

Did you just make that shit up?

No.

[Lurking Tiger]

Around 40% of illegal immigrants come over by plane. Around 65% of all illegal immigrants in the US have now lived here for around 10 years.

Swing and a miss Kaos...go sit down.

And the wall could actually increase the amount of permanent illegals. If the wall makes it tougher (Not impossible. It won't) these people will stay once they make it here.

[Kaos]

And the wall could actually increase the amount of permanent illegals. If the wall makes it tougher (Not impossible. It won't) these people will stay once they make it here.

So now they're sneaking back?   

[wesfau2]

So now they're sneaking back?

Actually, yes.

Not sure what "net migration" means?

[Kaos]

Actually, yes.

Not sure what "net migration" means?

No.  Calling bullshit. 

"Net migration" is baloney.  All lies. 

[Snaggletiger]

It's about time for the cobia to be migrating north.  Are they manning the watch towers along the Emerald Coast yet?

[wesfau2]

It's about time for the cobia to be migrating north.  Are they manning the watch towers along the Emerald Coast yet?

Saw a 44 pounder hit the docks this past weekend. 

They here.

[Snaggletiger]

Saw a 44 pounder hit the docks this past weekend. 

They here.

Wood.  I has it.

[CCTAU]

Need to hurry and get that wall built so we can have insanely positive deportation numbers.

[Snaggletiger]

Saw a 44 pounder hit the docks this past weekend. 

They here.

Heading your way at some point next week for a few days of R & R.  Beers on me?

[wesfau2]

Heading your way at some point next week for a few days of R & R.  Beers on me?

Will depend on the schedule.  Have to be in Tampa part of the week.

[Snaggletiger]

Will depend on the schedule.  Have to be in Tampa part of the week.

Kul.  Making reservations today.  I'll shoot you a text when they're set.