Trump's Muslim travel ban 2.0

[The Prowler]

Has been temporally suspended. U.S. District Court Judge Derrick Watson granted a temporary restraining order against the ban on the basis that it violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment.

[CCTAU]

More libtard legislation from the bench from a libtard Hawaii judge. Go figure!

[GH2001]

What part of judicial activism dont you get?

He's trying to determine intent from past rhetoric. Rhetoric means zero in regards to constitutionality. This judge needs to get the F off the bench. He's a disgrace and an asshole.

[The Prowler]

What part of judicial activism dont you get?

He's trying to determine intent from past rhetoric. Rhetoric means zero in regards to constitutionality. This judge needs to get the F off the bench. He's a disgrace and an asshole.

Intent from past rhetoric?

Like when Stephen Miller, the President’s senior policy adviser, recently said that the new ban would have “mostly minor technical differences” from the previous one, and that Americans would see “the same basic policy outcome for the country.”

Like when the President recently said that he was persuaded to sign a "watered down version" of the first Muslim travel ban, or when he said that, "I think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way".

The Hawaiian federal judge isn't the only one, there's one in Maryland and Washington.

[Kaos]

Intent from past rhetoric?

Like when Stephen Miller, the President’s senior policy adviser, recently said that the new ban would have “mostly minor technical differences” from the previous one, and that Americans would see “the same basic policy outcome for the country.”

Like when the President recently said that he was persuaded to sign a "watered down version" of the first Muslim travel ban, or when he said that, "I think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way".

The Hawaiian federal judge isn't the only one, there's one in Maryland and Washington.

Checking the Fucks Given board:

[The Prowler]

Checking the Fucks Given board:

No one cares if you or anyone else gives a fuck. Trump's Muslim ban is still a no go.

[GH2001]

No one cares if you or anyone else gives a fuck. Trump's Muslim ban is still a no go.

I do. Several on here do.

You on the other hand. The fahks meter is currently at 0.

And no you can't make a judgement on what you think the intent is. Or past rhetoric. You judge on what it IS.

[AUChizad]

Another issue I'm of two minds on.

I recognize a need for heavy vetting and a particular focus on radical Islamic terrorism in the current global political environment.

BUT

I think Trump's travel bans and the hysteria he's trying to gin up are counterproductive and silly.

BUT

I think the Hawaii judge's ruling based on "rhetoric", essentially his feelings, and nothing concrete or factual is garbage. Illogical and unconstitutional.

BUT

Trump's actions and statements should and do have consequences.

[Kaos]

Trump's actions and statements should and do have consequences.

We were okay until this point. 

Judges are supposed to rule on points of law, not their interpretation of contextual rhetoric.

[GH2001]

I think the Hawaii judge's ruling based on "rhetoric", essentially his feelings, and nothing concrete or factual is garbage. Illogical and unconstitutional.

You know. Prowler does not.

[AUTailgatingRules]

Trump's actions and statements should and do have consequences.

Trump's actions and statements got him elected.  Is that consequence enough for you?

[The Prowler]

Trump's actions and statements (and Russia hacking) got him elected.  Is that consequence enough for you?

Fixed

[Snaggletiger]

Good Lord.  Someone please explain how Russia, even if they did hack somebody's emails, Tweeters, Bookfaces, Instafucks or Fuckograms, convinced anybody to vote one way or the other.

What in the holy hell is all this Russian hacking shit all about?   

[AUTiger1]

Good Lord.  Someone please explain how Russia, even if they did hack somebody's emails, Tweeters, Bookfaces, Instafucks or Fuckograms, convinced anybody to vote one way or the other.

What in the holy hell is all this Russian hacking shit all about?

It's a false narrative by the left to try and explain why their candidate lost.

[The Six]

It's a false narrative by the left to try and explain why their candidate lost.

Very similar to "Got 12?" from years gone by.

[RWS]

Fixed

This still kills me.  It was OK that the DNC rigged the primaries to make sure Clinton was their candidate.  It was OK that Clinton colluded with the media and they were basically an extension of her campaign.  It was OK that Clinton was fed questions to be asked at debates and town hall events before they took place.  It was OK that Clinton had every conceivable advantage a candidate could possibly have.  But, it's totally NOT OK for anyone to expose what they did.  What's even more amusing is that if the shoe were on the other foot, and someone released emails about things that Trump did, it would be totally OK.  There is a clear double standard, and all the anger simply boils down to your person didn't win. 

Bottom line, if there was a smoking gun or any other proof that Trump colluded with the Russians to give him an advantage in the election, we would know.  It's not like the left has some sort of information they are holding back at this point.  For that matter, the majority of mainstream media is trying as hard as they can to dig something up, and they can't. 

[AUJarhead]

There is a clear double standard, and all the anger simply boils down to your person didn't win. 

This right here, is what upsets me.  And we both know that if the Ds and Rs were reversed, the Rs would be doing the same exact thing.  We've turned politics into a sporting event, and what we, collectively, have lost site of, is that when our leaders "lose," we all lose.

[Token]

It's a false narrative by the left to try and explain why their candidate lost.

And if they keep on with the false narratives they are going to get 8 years of Trump. 

[Token]

This still kills me.  It was OK that the DNC rigged the primaries to make sure Clinton was their candidate.  It was OK that Clinton colluded with the media and they were basically an extension of her campaign.  It was OK that Clinton was fed questions to be asked at debates and town hall events before they took place.  It was OK that Clinton had every conceivable advantage a candidate could possibly have.  But, it's totally NOT OK for anyone to expose what they did.  What's even more amusing is that if the shoe were on the other foot, and someone released emails about things that Trump did, it would be totally OK.  There is a clear double standard, and all the anger simply boils down to your person didn't win. 

Bottom line, if there was a smoking gun or any other proof that Trump colluded with the Russians to give him an advantage in the election, we would know.  It's not like the left has some sort of information they are holding back at this point.  For that matter, the majority of mainstream media is trying as hard as they can to dig something up, and they can't.

That's just it.  His guy actually DID get screwed by the "rigged" election.  In the primaries.  His guy had ZERO chance because the left, not the extreme left that wants everything for free, the actual normal left cheated like Memphis Alabama boosters to ensure that Hillary won the primary.  They tried to do the exact same thing in the general and got their asses exposed. 

Some of the old guard unionized democrats in and around my area are the most racist people I know.  True actual hatred of other people based on nothing than the color of their skin and because they actually believe whites are superior to other races.  But they'll shout down Trump as a racist all day long because they are smart enough to know what it takes to control dumb people.  It's sad that some people's ideas and thoughts can so easily be controlled by media.

[Kaos]

This right here, is what upsets me.  And we both know that if the Ds and Rs were reversed, the Rs would be doing the same exact thing.  We've turned politics into a sporting event, and what we, collectively, have lost site of, is that when our leaders "lose," we all lose.

I disagree.

There were literally hundreds of legitimate reasons to go after Obama personally and politically.  Only a few did, and nothing to the level that we're seeing now.