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[jmar]

Todd came in ready to play mentally. He made the right decisions, but his arm could not make the throws. The next season he was healthy. I'm not sure that had a lot to do with Gus. Todd was the football equivalent of a gym rat. He was that way BEFORE he got to AU.

Totally agree. He knew how to play the position but he was INJURED. We saw what he could do it was just a matter of fixing his shoulder.
Nobody mentored the guy when he was wearing a fucking sling. And most of the Auburn faithful had written him off.

[CCTAU]

Totally agree. He knew how to play the position but he was INJURED. We saw what he could do it was just a matter of fixing his shoulder.
Nobody mentored the guy when he was wearing a fucking sling. And most of the Auburn faithful had written him off.

Oh you mean when we got re-Todded...

[Snaggletiger]

Exactly what I expected.  You guys never disappoint.   

[djsimp]

Gatewood has backed off his "all auburn all the time" tweeting.  Been announcing new offers (UGA and Texas). 

Not saying we won't get him, but he's heretofore not tweeted about ANY other schools.  The Lashlee departure put us behind the eight ball with him, I think.

Well thats the suxxors. Maybe the young man still signs with AU. His highlights are stupid crazy.

Still, point remains. With what is thought to be better talent at the QB position, there are no more excuses for Gus. Done with them. Gus better hope Chip is better at developing QBs is all I gotsta say.

Edit:

we, I found this article that basically repeats what you said. A little interesting. Chip best get to work on this kid.

http://247sports.com/Article/Auburn-offensive-coordinator-Chip-Lindsey-to-visit-4-star-Florid-50763556

[dallaswareagle]

If he is going to claim Bullshit he needs to step up his game.  The Bogus ones are always a fun read
 

https://spittingfire.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/alabamas-12-national-championships/   

12 National Championships? … The Real Story

I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.

To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.

‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!

1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

[chinook]

https://spittingfire.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/alabamas-12-national-championships/   

 


welcome to 2017.

[Snaggletiger]

welcome to 2017.

Have you seen those new Bud Light ads where all the guys on the phone say "Wassuuuuuup".  Those are hilarious. 

[Godfather]

Have you seen those new Bud Light ads where all the guys on the phone say "Wassuuuuuup".  Those are hilarious.

I can't wait to see who wins the Bud vs Bud Light Cans Bowl this year.

[Buzz Killington]

Have you seen those new Bud Light ads where all the guys on the phone say "Wassuuuuuup".  Those are hilarious.

That's some funky cold medina

[Snaggletiger]

That's some funky cold medina

Wait, that's a song, right?  I heard that the other day.  Who does that?

[Godfather]

That's some funky cold medina

We should warm it up with this years cover of the SI Swimsuit Cover.   

[Godfather]

Say Nook are you going Blu-Ray or HD-DVD for the NHOP DVD's?  I think Blu-Ray is going to win out.

[djsimp]

That's some funky cold medina

OMG, did you see those crazy shots b/w Bird and Jordan fighting over that Big Mac?

[Kaos]

There was a time that...

There was a time that I thought Gus was great at taking what he had and creating an offense around those strengths.

Supporting Evidence:  Chris Todd, Cam Newton, Nick Marshall.   Todd struggled pre-Gus (reminded me of a slower, less intelligent Ben Leard) but flourished under Gus.  Cam was (eventually) given rein to be The Greatest and ran with it. Literally.  Marshall was a project but he understood the basics of the read option better than probably anybody ever has.  When it came time to keep it or dish it, he rarely chose wrong.  He had the speed and elusiveness to force a defensive commit either way and once that happened?  Gash.  Was that coaching?  Sure.  Was it QB development?  I don't know.

What made me decide that I was wrong:  Trottersly, Frazier, Wallace, Johnson, White, Franklin, Caudle.  With every one of those guys, he kept trying to fit a square peg into his single round hole.  He had no idea how to maximize what any of them did well -- and quite honestly we could never figure out exactly what that was with many of them.  None developed as accurate passers (with the exception of one half against Arkansas for Johnson) and none were ever really able to figure out how to use the read option weapon to destroy.  Perhaps it was because they were slower, less athletic, more intelligent. Hate to say that, but it's true.  In some cases intelligence doesn't equate to good quarterbacking because you overthink it.  Saw that with Johnson. He could not make a decision because he couldn't narrow down the possibilities. Then he would rush it and make the wrong choice because he had to do something.  Maybe it was because he always felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder (which is in my esteemed opinion a result of Gus' perpetual 'down to the last play of practice' decisions on a starter), or maybe it was just because he was afraid to let his instincts take over but Johnson froze.  Turtle froze. Kadrula froze. That is coaching.

Sean reminds me of Phil Gargis.  I've been meaning to say that.  If you don't know Gargis, look him up some time. 

There was a time when I thought Gus was a playcalling genius.

Supporting evidence:  Scoring at will with Cam. Scoring at will with Marshall. 

Why I don't think that any longer:  No first downs against Georgia. Half of the season with Trottersly. When he has someone under center who can keep the defense honest and make it commit?  He's gold.  When he doesn't?  He sucks and it's BAAAAAD. 

All the despicable things Bama fans said about Gus -- one-trick pony, high school offense -- have been realized in some ways.  It's disheartening.

We now have a QB with a reputation as a solid passer with good instincts.  We have a fleet of highly regarded receivers.  We have a solid offensive line and at least one back who can churn up yards when we don't break him in half by running him 57 times a game. I'm curious to see what this offense looks like.  Will round hole Gus try to hammer Stidham into his one trick or will we see something different. 

I honestly think Gus is as lost as any head coach has been at Auburn. Nobody is ready to survive in the shark waters of the SEC after one season as head coach of the Arkansas Tech Dogpack.  He's often flailing and has frequently exhibited to me all the signs of someone who a) doesn't understand why what worked yesterday isn't working today, b) has no idea what to do other than keep on doing what you were doing before and hope it works, and c) feels exhausted and hopeless/distraught because he either won't listen (see D. Craig) or doesn't see a path out. 

[chinook]

Say Nook are you going Blu-Ray or HD-DVD for the NHOP DVD's?  I think Blu-Ray is going to win out.

you think...damn I placed the order on HD-DVD. 

crossing my fingers.

[Snaggletiger]

you think...damn I placed the order on HD-DVD. 

crossing my fingers.

Speaking of trends, I thought you might be in the know with the business you're in.  Do you think women are going to stay with the bush or do you see more going to the clean shaven look?

[chinook]

Speaking of trends, I thought you might be in the know with the business you're in.  Do you think women are going to stay with the bush or do you see more going to the clean shaven look?

i'm hedging on a clean look.   

[The Six]

There was a time that...

There was a time that I thought Gus was great at taking what he had and creating an offense around those strengths.

Supporting Evidence:  Chris Todd, Cam Newton, Nick Marshall.   Todd struggled pre-Gus (reminded me of a slower, less intelligent Ben Leard) but flourished under Gus.  Cam was (eventually) given rein to be The Greatest and ran with it. Literally.  Marshall was a project but he understood the basics of the read option better than probably anybody ever has.  When it came time to keep it or dish it, he rarely chose wrong.  He had the speed and elusiveness to force a defensive commit either way and once that happened?  Gash.  Was that coaching?  Sure.  Was it QB development?  I don't know.

What made me decide that I was wrong:  Trottersly, Frazier, Wallace, Johnson, White, Franklin, Caudle.  With every one of those guys, he kept trying to fit a square peg into his single round hole.  He had no idea how to maximize what any of them did well -- and quite honestly we could never figure out exactly what that was with many of them.  None developed as accurate passers (with the exception of one half against Arkansas for Johnson) and none were ever really able to figure out how to use the read option weapon to destroy.  Perhaps it was because they were slower, less athletic, more intelligent. Hate to say that, but it's true.  In some cases intelligence doesn't equate to good quarterbacking because you overthink it.  Saw that with Johnson. He could not make a decision because he couldn't narrow down the possibilities. Then he would rush it and make the wrong choice because he had to do something.  Maybe it was because he always felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder (which is in my esteemed opinion a result of Gus' perpetual 'down to the last play of practice' decisions on a starter), or maybe it was just because he was afraid to let his instincts take over but Johnson froze.  Turtle froze. Kadrula froze. That is coaching.

Sean reminds me of Phil Gargis.  I've been meaning to say that.  If you don't know Gargis, look him up some time. 

There was a time when I thought Gus was a playcalling genius.

Supporting evidence:  Scoring at will with Cam. Scoring at will with Marshall. 

Why I don't think that any longer:  No first downs against Georgia. Half of the season with Trottersly. When he has someone under center who can keep the defense honest and make it commit?  He's gold.  When he doesn't?  He sucks and it's BAAAAAD. 

All the despicable things Bama fans said about Gus -- one-trick pony, high school offense -- have been realized in some ways.  It's disheartening.

We now have a QB with a reputation as a solid passer with good instincts.  We have a fleet of highly regarded receivers.  We have a solid offensive line and at least one back who can churn up yards when we don't break him in half by running him 57 times a game. I'm curious to see what this offense looks like.  Will round hole Gus try to hammer Stidham into his one trick or will we see something different. 

I honestly think Gus is as lost as any head coach has been at Auburn. Nobody is ready to survive in the shark waters of the SEC after one season as head coach of the Arkansas Tech Dogpack.  He's often flailing and has frequently exhibited to me all the signs of someone who a) doesn't understand why what worked yesterday isn't working today, b) has no idea what to do other than keep on doing what you were doing before and hope it works, and c) feels exhausted and hopeless/distraught because he either won't listen (see D. Craig) or doesn't see a path out.

Mods ^Front Page this

[Snaggletiger]

Mods ^Front Page this

Why would you want our front page to say "Why Our Coach Sucks"?

[CCTAU]

..he kept trying to fit a square peg into his single round hole.  He had no idea how to maximize what any of them did well -- and quite honestly we could never figure out exactly what that was with many of them. 

I have been saying this for two seasons. Part of JJs downfall was that the O never was adjusted for him. It was just JJ with NM plays.

And then when White came in, it was clear that the offense that NM ran would not work with SW. It was frustrating because I know the video was not as good back when Todd was the QB, but he could have at least watched a couple of games and jogged his memory. The same type of offense with the talent we have now could have easily flourished.

The one play that I missed most was the 5-out, 5-out, 5-out, 5-out-go! Boom. Walking TD.
How many 5-outs did we throw in the last 4 years. And is there anyone who thinks NM did not have the arm for a 5-out!
It's as if Gus thinks has ascended to a higher plane and the old stuff will not work still!

Hopefully Chip Lashlee can take the reins and keep us fresh!