Drain the Swamp

[War Eagle!!!]

KJ is maybe 65% and not the back for that job anyway.

Agree with everything but this. I thought KJ has looked like a damn good back when healthy. He also looked really good first half of the game Saturday. Not sure if his ankle gave out on him at half time or what.

Also, I think Truitt got hurt the first series which is why he never went back in.

[Snaggletiger]

Agree with everything but this. I thought KJ has looked like a damn good back when healthy. He also looked really good first half of the game Saturday. Not sure if his ankle gave out on him at half time or what.

Also, I think Truitt got hurt the first series which is why he never went back in.

Yep, I imagine you're spot on here if KJ is healthy.  I guess that's more my issue in that even going back to last year, he seems to stay dinged up. 

[CCTAU]

I'm just guessing here, but I'm pretty sure you just insulted us. 

What's an action g?

You know what?  Had Malzahn gone to Clifford Franklin XVIII and then came out and said, "Look, Sean's injured and we couldn't keep him out there.  Pettway's out, KJ is really banged up as is Stanton Truitt."  I think we'd all be able to take this one a bit better. 

Think about this.  From the end of spring until where we are today.  No Jovon Robinson. No Roc Thomas.  No Malik Miller.  No Pettway.  Kerryon Johnson half speed.  Stanton Truitt limping around.  Kam Martin can't catch and he's 137 pounds. If our QB is injured like he looks to be....

I'm just saying g, it took us four games to really settle on a QB. We see how long it takes to settle on a backup.


They have e no clue who should be backup. JJ got kadrill-ad. JF3 is lost as hell out there. Half the time he should pull and run but he has no idea.


Where is Queen? Is he healed up yet? Or is he essentially done?


But I was wanting to see Jf3 in a couple if series. Just how lost is he!
Hell, I would not have complained had they thrown JJ6 out there.


Why no TE quick pass? I was hoping he would get more involved.


Without Pettway's 6 yard average on first down, our coaches are lost!

[Snaggletiger]

I have zero argument with the lack of a plan B being a HUGE issue with this staff.

[GH2001]

I'm just saying g, it took us four games to really settle on a QB. We see how long it takes to settle on a backup.


They have e no clue who should be backup. JJ got kadrill-ad. JF3 is lost as hell out there. Half the time he should pull and run but he has no idea.


Where is Queen? Is he healed up yet? Or is he essentially done?


But I was wanting to see Jf3 in a couple if series. Just how lost is he!
Hell, I would not have complained had they thrown JJ6 out there.


Why no TE quick pass? I was hoping he would get more involved.


Without Pettway's 6 yard average on first down, our coaches are lost!

JJ typically performs well when he isn't "the guy". Ark in 14. Aggie and Bowl Game in 15. When he comes off the bench unexpectedly he tends to do better. When he has an entire week or summer to fester the thought of having to play - that's when he nuts up. I thought he would have been a better option against vandy. Get the game in hand, no need to ride Pettway like a mule - then he and Sean are both healthy for Uga. Woulda coulda shoulda though. Gus' screwup. He sucks at teh backup plans. 

[CCTAU]

JJ typically performs well when he isn't "the guy". Ark in 14. Aggie and Bowl Game in 15. When he comes off the bench unexpectedly he tends to do better. When he has an entire week or summer to fester the thought of having to play - that's when he nuts up. I thought he would have been a better option against vandy. Get the game in hand, no need to ride Pettway like a mule - then he and Sean are both healthy for Uga. Woulda coulda shoulda though. Gus' screwup. He sucks at teh backup plans.

Truth!
Why will they not even consider JJ at all? God help us if White is still hurt for bama and they start JJ! But that would be par for the management so far.

[Snaggletiger]

Truth!
Why will they not even consider JJ at all? God help us if White is still hurt for bama and they start JJ! But that would be par for the management so far.

I believe that GF will enlighten us in due time.  His skreetz are paved in....well, they're mostly paved.  A few potholes here and there, but nothing you can't navigate around.

[CCTAU]

I know folks are pissed. I'm just NOT.


After Jovon got railroaded, I thought we were done. I figured white could keep us competitive if he could stay healthy. And I thought KJ might surprise me. I'm not a fan of his running style, but I love to see the kid play.


Then the younguns started showing out at WR. (When Stevens got hurt and quote dropping balls) Pettway got his shot and bulldozed past 1000 yards(quickly). I knew if we could stay healthy, we would do some  damage. When White did not start Vandy, I resigned myself that we are in trouble. When Pettway went down, I damn near cried.
But like you, I thought we could limp by uga. I didn't realize that Pettway's first down average was as monster as it is(100 rushes, 600 yards). That hides a lot of issues.


One thing I am excited about is next season. We get Malik back healthy and find a backup for SW and we are a damn talented team on offense.


We all stated 8-9 wins would keep CGM. And the we all got too excited thinking we aren't really who we are.


With a  healthy Pettway and White, we make a good run at the turds and a nice bowl.


But OMG, one more loss like that to uga and I really don't care who is in charge, dump them!

[GH2001]

I know folks are pissed. I'm just NOT.


After Jovon got railroaded, I thought we were done. I figured white could keep us competitive if he could stay healthy. And I thought KJ might surprise me. I'm not a fan of his running style, but I love to see the kid play.


Then the younguns started showing out at WR. (When Stevens got hurt and quote dropping balls) Pettway got his shot and bulldozed past 1000 yards(quickly). I knew if we could stay healthy, we would do some  damage. When White did not start Vandy, I resigned myself that we are in trouble. When Pettway went down, I damn near cried.
But like you, I thought we could limp by uga. I didn't realize that Pettway's first down average was as monster as it is(100 rushes, 600 yards). That hides a lot of issues.


One thing I am excited about is next season. We get Malik back healthy and find a backup for SW and we are a damn talented team on offense.


We all stated 8-9 wins would keep CGM. And the we all got too excited thinking we aren't really who we are.


With a  healthy Pettway and White, we make a good run at the turds and a nice bowl.


But OMG, one more loss like that to uga and I really don't care who is in charge, dump them!

If Gus and company are not grooming woody right now for the future then he is useless. Kid is all world and tailor made for this offense.

[CCTAU]

If Gus and company are not grooming woody right now for the future then he is useless. Kid is all world and tailor made for this offense.

That was my caveat when I said "find a backup for White"!


But then they have screwed up every other "perfect for this system" QB so far!




Still no info on Queen. Is he pretty much done?

[Godfather]

That was my caveat when I said "find a backup for White"!


But then they have screwed up every other "perfect for this system" QB so far!




Still no info on Queen. Is he pretty much done?

The last info I had on Queen was that he was still healing from the Tommy John surgery.

[Godfather]

I know folks are pissed. I'm just NOT.

I am super pissed and disappointed at losing to UGA.  They are a subpar team and I thought we were once again out coached. 

As far as the rest of the season: I really didn't care about the playoffs, I wanted to win the SEC (now I figured that if we won the SEC we would probably get into the playoffs) but I also didn't think we were ready for that.  That being said I also knew we had to have a tremendous game in which we would have had to play perfect to win in BDS. I also figured that losing Pettway also probably meant losing to bama.

Here is where I am with Gus.  I really have no faith in Jacobs to get us a better coach so until he is gone, I really don't want to have a coaching search.  I have no major problems with Gus retaining his position for next year.  We are where I thought we would be 8 wins. 

My biggest issues with him though is he continues to be what everyone else has laid out and seems to not learn from past mistakes.
  - Lacking in Player Development
  - Ability to spot players (why was Pettway an H-back?) or make appropriate changes (ie. no plan B).  (this is what has me scratching my head the most, I am not a HC of a major college school just a fanatical fan, but if I and 87,000 people see the issue and you don't WTF?!?)
  - Continuing these same trends over and over.

I think what the majority of us are pissed about in general is the way we lost the games.  In all three of these losses it has been offensive issues and mind boggling play calling and this isn't the first year of this shite.

[GH2001]

I am super pissed and disappointed at losing to UGA.  They are a subpar team and I thought we were once again out coached. 

As far as the rest of the season: I really didn't care about the playoffs, I wanted to win the SEC (now I figured that if we won the SEC we would probably get into the playoffs) but I also didn't think we were ready for that.  That being said I also knew we had to have a tremendous game in which we would have had to play perfect to win in BDS. I also figured that losing Pettway also probably meant losing to bama.

Here is where I am with Gus.  I really have no faith in Jacobs to get us a better coach so until he is gone, I really don't want to have a coaching search.  I have no major problems with Gus retaining his position for next year.  We are where I thought we would be 8 wins. 

My biggest issues with him though is he continues to be what everyone else has laid out and seems to not learn from past mistakes.
  - Lacking in Player Development
  - Ability to spot players (why was Pettway an H-back?) or make appropriate changes (ie. no plan B).  (this is what has me scratching my head the most, I am not a HC of a major college school just a fanatical fan, but if I and 87,000 people see the issue and you don't WTF?!?)
  - Continuing these same trends over and over.

I think what the majority of us are pissed about in general is the way we lost the games.  In all three of these losses it has been offensive issues and mind boggling play calling and this isn't the first year of this shite.

He speaks for all of us.

[Snaggletiger]

I have no problem with "player development" with one glaring exception, and that of course, is at QB.  And that's the one area that Malzahn is directly involved in, or should be.  Lashlee is listed as the QB corch but that position and this offense is Gus' baby.  He's been way too hit and miss in his career.  I'm not one to dismiss his successes. I'll give credit where it's due and I applaud him and the staff for getting this 6'0" 200 lb. kid coached up to where he was one of the more efficient passers in the nation and at times, a pretty effective runner. 

I do have an issue with what we have on the roster behind White and the lack of any confidence whatsoever by the coaches and even the fans, that any of them can get the job done.  I hated the Clifford Franklin XXVVIV signing from the start.  I took one look at his resume and asked WTF are they doing?  If a 6'5" 230 pound Mr. Alabama Football is a head case, then do your job and UNfuck it. And if JJ hasn't been in the rotation as far as reps and being ready to play, you damn sure had better be getting Woody Barrett groomed to play, if need be.  Apparently, we have Franklin VIIXV and comatose bench warmer next in line if Sean can't go.

Now, on Pettway.  I can't put that on Malzahn.  I have to assume the position coaches are allowed to do their jobs.  Herb Hand is responsible for getting 5 guys ready to play together.  I'm quite sure Kodi Burns sets the rotations at receiver or at least submits that to Malzahn.  And it's Tim Horton's job to say who is best able to get the job done.  I doubt we're going to hear later down the road that Horton was begging Malzahn to give Pettway a chance and Gus just brushed him off.  Plus, in certain cases, a player might freeze up when the lights come on...JJ....or the opposite happens. Maybe Pettway needs the bright lights and adrenaline rush to kick it up a notch.   

[GH2001]

I have no problem with "player development" with one glaring exception, and that of course, is at QB.  And that's the one area that Malzahn is directly involved in, or should be.  Lashlee is listed as the QB corch but that position and this offense is Gus' baby.  He's been way too hit and miss in his career.  I'm not one to dismiss his successes. I'll give credit where it's due and I applaud him and the staff for getting this 6'0" 200 lb. kid coached up to where he was one of the more efficient passers in the nation and at times, a pretty effective runner. 

I do have an issue with what we have on the roster behind White and the lack of any confidence whatsoever by the coaches and even the fans, that any of them can get the job done.  I hated the Clifford Franklin XXVVIV signing from the start.  I took one look at his resume and asked WTF are they doing?  If a 6'5" 230 pound Mr. Alabama Football is a head case, then do your job and UNfuck it. And if JJ hasn't been in the rotation as far as reps and being ready to play, you damn sure had better be getting Woody Barrett groomed to play, if need be.  Apparently, we have Franklin VIIXV and comatose bench warmer next in line if Sean can't go.

Now, on Pettway.  I can't put that on Malzahn.  I have to assume the position coaches are allowed to do their jobs.  Herb Hand is responsible for getting 5 guys ready to play together.  I'm quite sure Kodi Burns sets the rotations at receiver or at least submits that to Malzahn.  And it's Tim Horton's job to say who is best able to get the job done.  I doubt we're going to hear later down the road that Horton was begging Malzahn to give Pettway a chance and Gus just brushed him off.  Plus, in certain cases, a player might freeze up when the lights come on...JJ....or the opposite happens. Maybe Pettway needs the bright lights and adrenaline rush to kick it up a notch.   

Pettway should not have been needed that much that late in the vandy game. End of story. And he was needed that much directly because of our dumbass coach. Who somehow thought a salty front 7 like vandys wouldn't sell out to stop the run knowing that little asshat couldn't pass. It was dumb. At least Jeremy can hit a damn pass when he isn't overthinking it. I truly believe Jeremy would have had an Aggie game 2015 like performance if he had been placed in that game at the last minute. No white or Pettway would have been needed. Both would have been there for Uga. Ughhhhhh.

[Snaggletiger]

Pettway should not have been needed that much that late in the vandy game. End of story. And he was needed that much directly because of our dumbass coach. Who somehow thought a salty front 7 like vandys wouldn't sell out to stop the run knowing that little asshat couldn't pass. It was dumb. At least Jeremy can hit a damn pass when he isn't overthinking it. I truly believe Jeremy would have had an Aggie game 2015 like performance if he had been placed in that game at the last minute. No white or Pettway would have been needed. Both would have been there for Uga. Ughhhhhh.

I'm not referring to the Pettway injury.  Just the suggestion that it's Malzahn's fault for not recognizing the back the guy could become. 

[GH2001]

I'm not referring to the Pettway injury.  Just the suggestion that it's Malzahn's fault for not recognizing the back the guy could become.

That too.

Well with jovon, roc and kj in the fold at the time I can forgive that one. Somewhat. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta.

[AUChizad]

I have been screaming this all. damn. season. and I don't understand why it's such an impossible concept for our coaches to grasp.

There is no QB controversy with Franklin. He is a subpar passer, which is the primary duty of the quarterback. THAT SAID, it is evident that when he is in, the ground game opens up significantly because of the real threat he poses to run it for 15+ yards. WHY THE FUCK don't we put him in for situational packages like 4th & 1 or goal line type situations? WHY THE FUCK didn't they give him a shot in that second half when the results were Pick-6, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 4-and-out. SOMEWHERE IN THERE it didn't occur to them to mix it the fuck up? Especially when Pettway was out and appearently White was hobbled. They had obviously adjusted to Kerryon at the half. They are incapable to mix it up whatsoever when shit is not working. Definition of insanity.

[Godfather]

I have been screaming this all. damn. season. and I don't understand why it's such an impossible concept for our coaches to grasp.

There is no QB controversy with Franklin. He is a subpar passer, which is the primary duty of the quarterback. THAT SAID, it is evident that when he is in, the ground game opens up significantly because of the real threat he poses to run it for 15+ yards. WHY THE FUCK don't we put him in for situational packages like 4th & 1 or goal line type situations? WHY THE FUCK didn't they give him a shot in that second half when the results were Pick-6, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 3-and-out, 4-and-out. SOMEWHERE IN THERE it didn't occur to them to mix it the fuck up? Especially when Pettway was out and appearently White was hobbled. They had obviously adjusted to Kerryon at the half. They are incapable to mix it up whatsoever when shit is not working. Definition of insanity.

Gus only likes to mix it up when things are working.

[GH2001]

Gus only likes to mix it up when things are working.

Work on some things. Take it day to day. Just trying to get better. It's been a good week of practice. The guys are doing what they need to do. Alabama a&m def has our attention.