Maybe the server wasn't so secure after all

[War Eagle!!!]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/284481-clinton-it-specialist-invokes-the-fifth-100-times

The man believed to have set up and maintained the private server in the basement of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s New York home invoked his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination more than 125 times during a deposition as part of a civil court case on Wednesday.

Fox News reported that Bryan Pagliano’s sworn testimony with conservative organization Judicial Watch lasted roughly 90 minutes, during which the IT expert repeatedly read a carefully worded statement off of an index card while refusing to answer questions.

Pagliano’s deposition on Wednesday was originally scheduled to occur more than two weeks ago but was postponed when his lawyers notified the court that the former State Department employee would be pleading the Fifth.

The IT official could have provided important information in the case, which might have resolved lingering questions about the state of Clinton’s private server, how information was preserved and the security protocols used to protect her data.

But he declined to answer questions, his lawyers said, in part due to the federal government’s decision to grant him limited immunity as part of its ongoing criminal probe related to the server and the possibility that classified information was mishandled.

After a back-and-forth between the two legal teams, Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled this month that the details of that immunity deal could remain secret.

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said the “astounding” number of times Pagliano pled the Fifth “is another reminder of how much she has to hide and how serious the FBI’s criminal investigation really is.”

“Clinton’s extraordinarily reckless conduct and dishonest attempts to avoid accountability do not fit the profile of someone worthy of the highest office in the land,” Priebus added in a statement. “Clinton’s actions in this case alone are disqualifying and her aide’s stonewalling today is just a prelude to the kind of White House she would run.”

Despite his resistance to giving up any possible incriminating information, Pagliano’s appearance in the deposition with Judicial Watch might reflect poorly on Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

Unlike in criminal cases, judges in civil suits are allowed to draw inferences from a witness’s decision not to answer questions, potentially increasing the likelihood that Clinton herself is asked to testify as part of the Judicial Watch lawsuit. Clinton’s campaign would surely vigorously oppose any request for her to appear, and the event could dramatically shake up the presidential race. 

Judicial Watch has filed multiple open records lawsuits related to Clinton’s exclusive use of a private email account and server while serving as the nation’s top diplomat. Depositions have been granted in two of those cases, and the decision in a third was this week put on hold pending the outcomes of those two other cases.

Two other former aides are scheduled to be interviewed before the end of the month: longtime deputy Huma Abedin and Patrick Kennedy, former undersecretary for management.

[Kaos]

You just may be the least self aware person I've encountered in quite a while. 

Your perception of what's happening here is so out of whack it defies belief.  You are the only person unaware that you are dancing like a drunk sorority girl at a Dave Matthews concert with every button I push.  I even graciously gave you opportunities to step off the rage ledge and scale back. But you rejected even that. 

You're the only one who can't see it.  And you keep digging the hole ever deeper.

Step back. Laugh at yourself. Put down the handfuls of feces.  You really need to. 

[AUChizad]

You just may be the least self aware person I've encountered in quite a while. 

Your perception of what's happening here is so out of whack it defies belief.  You are the only person unaware that you are dancing like a drunk sorority girl at a Dave Matthews concert with every button I push.  I even graciously gave you opportunities to step off the rage ledge and scale back. But you rejected even that. 

You're the only one who can't see it.  And you keep digging the hole ever deeper.

Step back. Laugh at yourself. Put down the handfuls of feces.  You really need to.

Take what you said. Flip it. Then you're right.

[Kaos]

Take what you said. Flip it. Then you're right.

You need help.  And are the only one who doesn't see it. 


 

[AUChizad]

You need help.  And are the only one who doesn't see it. 


 

Take what you said. Flip it. Then you're right.

[CCTAU]

^^^The equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I"! ^^^^

Just waiting for the neener, neener, neener!

[AUChizad]

^^^The equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I"! ^^^^

Just waiting for the neener, neener, neener!

Take what you said. Flip it. Then you're right.

[Kaos]

^^^The equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I"! ^^^^

Just waiting for the neener, neener, neener!

^
C'zad

[AUChizad]

^
C'zad

Take what you said. Flip it. Then you're right.

[CCTAU]

You forgot neener, neener, neener!

[RWS]

Here is case # 5,937,652 in the last month of you pants-shitting at the opportunity to hurl idiotic, needless insults, and I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS, even though you want to build another goddamn strawman because THAT IS ALL YOU ARE FUCKING CAPABLE OF in discussion.

Here is case # 5,937,652 of you swallowing the bait whole.

[GH2001]

Here is case # 5,937,652 of you swallowing the bait whole.

I think maybe. Just maybe....K is being half serious at best. And chad is being much greater than half serious at minimum. Just maybe. That is the disconnect.

[RWS]

I think maybe. Just maybe....K is being half serious at best. And chad is being much greater than half serious at minimum. Just maybe. That is the disconnect.

Probably.  Once Chizad understands that Kaos is just an asshole and you can't change that fact, these conversations will probably be much more civil.

[AUChizad]

I think maybe. Just maybe....K is being half serious at best. And chad is being much greater than half serious at minimum. Just maybe. That is the disconnect.

You're the one that lent credence to his assertion that I'm the one who drives his honest attempts at serious discussion off course in favor of unnecessary ad-hominem insults, Tom Ritter.

Maybe your judgement is skewed.

[AUChizad]

Probably.  Once Chizad understands that Kaos is just an asshole and you can't change that fact, these conversations will probably be much more civil.

Maybe I've been aware of that for years...

[GH2001]

You're the one that lent credence to his assertion that I'm the one who drives his honest attempts at serious discussion off course in favor of unnecessary ad-hominem insults, Tom Ritter.

Maybe your judgement is skewed.

Once upon a time they may have been the case.

In the last week? Not so much.

There is an easy way to prove it. I would say you are being pretty intense and serious over this whole thing this week. Ammarite? Nothing wrong with that. You give a shit. You are passionate. That's fine.

K...how serious are you being at the moment with your posts?

Allls I'm sayin homie is that I think he is taking this much less serious than you at the moment. You two are on two different planets at the moment. And I hate to see you driving yourself nuts over it.

[AUChizad]

Once upon a time they may have been the case.

In the last week? Not so much.

There is an easy way to prove it. I would say you are being pretty intense and serious over this whole thing this week. Ammarite? Nothing wrong with that. You give a shit. You are passionate. That's fine.

K...how serious are you being at the moment with your posts?

Allls I'm sayin homie is that I think he is taking this much less serious than you at the moment. You two are on two different planets at the moment. And I hate to see you driving yourself nuts over it.

"Taking way too serious" = Pointing out his blatant lies, verifiably false accusations, and unnecessary insults that he (and you, and apparently others) claims he doesn't make.

Just because you agree with him, and it causes you distress when his bullshit is exposed for what it is doesn't mean I'm the bad guy.

[RWS]

"Taking way too serious" = Pointing out his blatant lies, verifiably false accusations, and unnecessary insults that he (and you, and apparently others) claims he doesn't make.

Just because you agree with him, and it causes you distress when his bullshit is exposed for what it is doesn't mean I'm the bad guy.

I think everyone just understands that he's an asshole and takes what he says with a grain of salt, so maybe they just process it a little differently.  Of course he's full of shit sometimes.  Everyone else is just simply satisfied going with "Yeah, that's bullshit" instead of wasting time trying to reason with or change his mind.  More than likely, neither will happen.  It's like when I'm training a new person at work; if I have to beat them over the head with something repeatedly, they're not going to get it anyway.

[AUChizad]

I think everyone just understands that he's an asshole and takes what he says with a grain of salt, so maybe they just process it a little differently.  Of course he's full of shit sometimes.  Everyone else is just simply satisfied going with "Yeah, that's bullshit" instead of wasting time trying to reason with or change his mind.

I think you grossly overestimate the ability of many on this board to discern what is bullshit or not.

Case in point: The conversation we're forced to have now due to his bullshit mischaracterization of what transpired in this thread.

[WiregrassTiger]

Kaos may be an asshole. I won't argue that. But his debating and reasoning skills aren't in question from where I sit. He's not squealing like a school girl or freaking out because anyone disagrees with his opinion.

Maybe that's because his stance appears to jive with the majority on this board. I don't know. Still, I think he's been the more rational and adult in the debate.