At least he's not Hillary...

[Snaggletiger]

Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:

Trump-Maybe changes made.

Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)

Johnson-Wasted vote.

Well put.

[chinook]

Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:

Trump-Maybe changes made.

Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)

Johnson-Wasted vote.

you do realize that WarEagle!!! said the exact same thing?

wth?   nice try JR Dallas.

[dallaswareagle]

you do realize that WarEagle!!! said the exact same thing?

wth?   nice try JR Dallas.

Guilty as charged.

an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:

[Ogre]

With every passing day I am more convinced than ever that Trump is not fit to hold the office of the President.  Neither is Hillary.  I'm also not big on Johnson (heh heh). 

I literally have nobody to vote for.  I never envisioned being in this position.  In the past I've been able to justify holding my nose and pulling the lever for a McCain or Romney.  I didn't agree with those guys on everything but at least I felt like they had the country's best interest at heart.  Not so with Trump.  He doesn't give a damn about liberty or conservatism in the least.   

A Mondale-level landslide is coming.  Here in GA we have Hillary and Trump tied.  He's never gotten above the 40's in freaking UTAH.  The guy is toxic and will only become moreso between now and November.

Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shoot up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:

Trump-Maybe changes made.

Hillary-More corruption and free shoot to folks who don't do shoot. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)

Johnson-Wasted vote.

[AUChizad]

Did Michelle Obama write that?

[Kaos]

Did Michelle Obama write that?

No, but you can bet your ass that bitch stole it from somewhere.

[War Eagle!!!]

Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shoot up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:

Trump-Maybe changes made.

Hillary-More corruption and free shoot to folks who don't do shoot. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)

Johnson-Wasted vote.

I am finally starting to agree with you.

Well said.

[AUChizad]

Has anyone considered "letting the house bust" to use a blackjack metaphor?

The next presidency is guaranteed to be a disaster. We can have our qualms about which would be worse, but I think it's pretty universally agreed that it will be bad no matter what.

Either Hillary can be in charge and the Democratic brand will take a hit, or the GOP who allowed inept Trump at the helm will be, and it will, IMO devastate the party for years to come, maybe forever. It could make them the next Whig party.

Even if you don't think it's that dire, in the very least, you'll have a chance to reboot in 4 years. Trump wins, that's not on the table and you have to vote for him again in the next election.

Why do that?

[AUJarhead]

My dad thinks he's a DNC plant.  And I'm starting to agree.

[chinook]

My dad thinks he's a DNC plant.  And I'm starting to agree.

wait, WarEagle!!! is your daddy? 

[AUChizad]

My dad thinks he's a DNC plant.  And I'm starting to agree.

I've said that since pretty much page one and was derided as a lunatic.

I'm not saying I 100% know it to be fact. But I couldn't think of anything he would do different if he were…

[Kaos]

Has anyone considered "letting the house bust" to use a blackjack metaphor?

The next presidency is guaranteed to be a disaster. We can have our qualms about which would be worse, but I think it's pretty universally agreed that it will be bad no matter what.

Either Hillary can be in charge and the Democratic brand will take a hit, or the GOP who allowed inept Trump at the helm will be, and it will, IMO devastate the party for years to come, maybe forever. It could make them the next Whig party.

Even if you don't think it's that dire, in the very least, you'll have a chance to reboot in 4 years. Trump wins, that's not on the table and you have to vote for him again in the next election.

Why do that?

A) Because I'm not a squealing liberal baby who thinks Trump will be a disaster
B) Because I think Trump is a businessman first and as such is smart enough to hire people and put them in positions to make a difference and to succeed.
C) Because I think if Trump wins thing will be different enough in four years that we might just want to keep him around.
D) Because I think Trump is a patriot who puts America's needs first and Hillary is a Euro-globalist who is all about being Empress.  No thank you. 

If Trump wins, I have every confidence that I'll be even more in support of him the next time around.

[Kaos]

I've said that since pretty much page one and was derided as a lunatic.

I'm not saying I 100% know it to be fact. But I couldn't think of anything he would do different if he were…

Well.... that wasn't the ONLY reason. 

[chinook]

I've said that since pretty much page one and was derided as a lunatic.

I'm not saying I 100% know it to be fact. But I couldn't think of anything he would do different if he were…

not to burst your egg, ego...whatever you want to call it but WarEagle!!! said that well before you did on page one.   

majority of exit polls still think you're a lunatic, regardless.

smooches. 

[WiregrassTiger]

Most rational people feel this way, Trump is a blowhard and a buffoon who likes to hear his own voice, Hillary is just evil and corrupt. Maybe, just maybe, Trump will blow shit up and get rid of the old guard and make changes to the govt. Make it for the people not for them. I look at this way:

Trump-Maybe changes made.

Hillary-More corruption and free shit to folks who don't do shit. More cops shot, less military (cause shes gonna cut the budget even more and folks are going to leave, or not sign up)

Johnson-Wasted vote.

^^^His moments of clarity are few and far between but when he has 'em, damn if he doesn't do some fine posting.

[jmar]

^^^His moments of clarity are few and far between but when he has 'em, damn if he doesn't do some fine posting.

Agreed !

[AUChizad]

not to burst your egg, ego...whatever you want to call it but WarEagle!!! said that well before you did on page one.   

majority of exit polls still think you're a lunatic, regardless.

smooches.

False. I said it way back when no one still thought he had a chance, and no one took issue with this criticism but CCTAU. Because. Well...

http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=25887.msg400527#msg400527

Only since you asked.

Here's how I'd rank the nominees on both sides:
Like/Would Definitely Vote For
1. Rubio - Clearly the smartest, most experienced candidate that knows what the fuck he's talking about. Latino and young vote would bump him into a win for the Rs.
2. Fiorina - Also very smart. Everything people like about Trump is also true about Fiorina, except she actually knows how to discuss foreign, or hell, domestic policies without sounding like a bafoon. She probably is the most articulate and intelligent when it comes to this. Also she negates Hillary's entire campaign that simply being a woman is her top qualification.
3. Kasich - You guys probably think he's a RINO, but I think he is one of the few Rs to consistently display common sense.
4. Paul - The closest to a real libertarian. He was my for sure #1 early in the campaign, but I've faltered on him. Mainly because I don't believe he has any real chance, and also because he's compromised a lot, presumably to try to win the Republican primary. Double-edged sword I guess, but he's not navigating it well on either side.

Neutral/Might Vote For, But Probably Would Just Stay Home
5. Jeb! - For much of the same reason I don't like Hillary, I don't like Jeb. The Bush name is tainted to your average voter. Let alone played out. Need fresh blood, not a dynasty. And the idea that he was the smarter, stronger Bush has been wearing out momentously. He appears to be a pussy version of W.
6. Chris Christie - Fascist authoritarian. Hates the "Libertarian thread" of the Republican party. Big against pot. Big on the Patriot Act. I don't care for it.
7. Martin O'Malley - Yep, the Dem. No I don't like him, but I dislike about the same amount of things about him as Christie. He at least is articulate and just seems presidential. Note that I would have put Chafee and Webb either at the top of this section or the bottom of the previous section, around 5 & 6, but they both dropped out.
8. Ted Cruz - Goober.

Dislike/Would definitely not be motivated to vote for and would probably Actively Vote against
9. Mike Huckabee - Religious nutjub, IMO. I know that doesn't play here, but that's my opinion on the man. The Kim Davis shit was a clown show.
10. Hillary Clinton - For starters, the same reason I don't like Jeb! Add to that that she is the definition of nontransparent authoritarian government. The emails and Benghazi stuff is proof enough to me that she will lie and deceive for political gain. Fuck her.
11. Ben Carson - I want to cheer for this guy. A black brain surgeon? Sounds like an automatic win for the Rs. I hesitate to call him stupid due to his profession, but if I didn't know that about him I would swear he was dumber than Palin. He says outlandishly crazy/stupid things with frequency. He's a neuroscientist. Great. He's not a political scientist. When you push specifically to get an "outsider" that isn't tainted by the political system, what you're really saying is you want someone completely unqualified to run the country to run the country. Like saying you want my grandmother who has never used a computer to be your IT person. Just, no.

STRONGLY dislike/Would actively vote against because they will destroy the country if elected
12. Bernie Sanders - Self described socialist, as if you didn't know. His economic plan will drive us so far into debt, we will become his utopian Cuba with the quickness. He can brainwash people that only the top 1% billionaires with yachts will be punished with his tax plan, but they are idiots if they think that math adds up. He will be taxing the upper middle class i.e. most everyone here upwards of 50% to pay for the shit he's dreamed up.
13. Donald Trump - This guy is a complete and utter fucking idiot, and frankly, you are too if you don't immediately recognize it every time he opens his mouth. He says a whole lot of nothing about nothing every single time. But he's gonna make the economy classy and do it better than the other guy cause he's not ugly and super rich and wicked smart. Or something. I don't care if he was a successful business person, which arguably, he wasn't. Good for him that he turned a ton of money into a ton more money. That does not in any way, shape, or form qualify him for the presidency. Like I said about Fiorina, at least she clearly knows what she's talking about. Give her a question on Hezbollah and Hamas and she will answer intelligently. Trump would say he never cared for Greek food. He is a clown. Any international respect we had would be obliterated for good if we elect that imbecile. He is president Hector Camacho from Idiocracy. Words cannot explain how disastrous that would be for our country. And furthermore, I'm not convinced he isn't a Hillary plant sent specifically to make Republicans look like buffoons. He donated to the Clinton foundation, and there are nothing about any of his policies (the few he was able to articulate to begin with) that are "conservative". Not being PC is not the same as not being a belligerent asshole.

My $0.02.

[GH2001]

I've waffled back and forth on trumps true intentions. With all the resources money and campaigning he and his family have thrown into this thing now, I have to believe his intent is sincere at this point, even if it wasn't at some point before.

I think he was as surprised as anyone that he got the nod. I think he wanted to test the waters and get in to shake it up enough to make a dent and then get out. I think that he thought he could affect the race, not win it. But now he's won it. And wants that last notch on his career built. It's the only thing he hasn't done in his career and frankly the only thing left to do for him. He is looking at this as his crowning achievement and the last chapter of his legacy.

[AUChizad]

I've waffled back and forth on trumps true intentions. With all the resources money and campaigning he and his family have thrown into this thing now, I have to believe his intent is sincere at this point, even if it wasn't at some point before.

Whut?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/

Trump directs nearly one-fifth of his money to his own businesses

[War Eagle!!!]

Whut?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/politics/donald-trump-business-spending-fec/

So would you rather him pay another company to do this?

This article and the media's fucking skewing of facts is such bullshit. It costs to travel around on a plane, might as well use your own.

Why the fuck the media (and you) harp on shit like this while giving Clinton a COMPLETE PASS about the Clinton Foundation is what is wrong with the whole fucking thing...