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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 11:40:56 AM »
Where is the one that explains him and his con job to his idiot fanboys?
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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2016, 12:25:19 PM »
Where is the one that explains him and his con job to his idiot fanboys?

What do you perceive he is claiming to be and is not?


So far, he has not promised right wing stuff.

If he accomplishes just a few things on his list, he is by far better than any other GOP candidate in the last 10 years.

I have no delusion that he is a right wing savior. But I so think he can get things done that need doing. 

Build a wall.
Stop influx of immigrants from muslim countries until a better screening process is approved.
keep military strong.
Lower corporate taxes.
More fairly balance trade.
Do something about obummercare.
Many more. But just a few of these would be success.

I think the more you hear Trump, the more informed he is on foreign policy. He is getting it more right each day.

http://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2016/03/28/trump-america-first-nato-conservative-neocons/

He is not the devil you speak of.

She is on the other side.

I would love to have a strong constitutional conservative like Cruz involved. But he just does not have the charisma to get it done.

There is no right choice, but recognizing the positives of Trump helps make this all more palatable.

Will he be great? Hmmm.
Will he flop? Hmmm

But the alternative is more socialism. I cannot palate that.
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2016, 12:41:29 PM »
What do you perceive he is claiming to be and is not?


So far, he has not promised right wing stuff.

If he accomplishes just a few things on his list, he is by far better than any other GOP candidate in the last 10 years.

I have no delusion that he is a right wing savior. But I so think he can get things done that need doing. 

Build a wall.
Stop influx of immigrants from muslim countries until a better screening process is approved.
keep military strong.
Lower corporate taxes.
More fairly balance trade.
Do something about obummercare.
Many more. But just a few of these would be success.

I think the more you hear Trump, the more informed he is on foreign policy. He is getting it more right each day.

http://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2016/03/28/trump-america-first-nato-conservative-neocons/

He is not the devil you speak of.

She is on the other side.

I would love to have a strong constitutional conservative like Cruz involved. But he just does not have the charisma to get it done.

There is no right choice, but recognizing the positives of Trump helps make this all more palatable.

Will he be great? Hmmm.
Will he flop? Hmmm

But the alternative is more socialism. I cannot palate that.

Agree so much it hurts.

Would I have picked trump from a list?  No.  But when my other options are Cruz and Rubio and Jeb and Huck and Kasich (who might have been ok but got lost) and Carson .... And the opposite side has the antichrist and an ex hippie who lived off the teat all his life?  I have to consider it. 

The things that matter to me ... Boosting small business, abandoning the culture of apologizing for our power that Obama has adopted, the reversal of the "good Muslim"'policies supported by the caliph, ending anti-American trade policies that Hillbillary pushed for?  He's there. 

I wish he were more anti IRS and Obamacare but that will come. 

He's not the devil. She is.  That whole party is the personification of evil. 
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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2016, 04:45:58 PM »
If I wanted to vote for a liberal democrat I'd vote for Hillary.  Thanks though. 


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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2016, 10:10:03 AM »
If I wanted to vote for a liberal democrat I'd vote for Hillary.  Thanks though.

Not quite the same:

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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2016, 10:26:09 AM »
Not quite the same:


Oh it's on a little meme thing so it must be true, even though I've provided specific links to his exact quotes that completely contradict just about everything on there by factual examples of him professing his positions on those things...
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2016, 10:50:36 AM »
These things are on his website.

I guess only every other candidate can be help to his stated platform. But we KNOW from you that Trump is lying.

I can only go by his platform now. I have no previous actions in a governing capacity to judge him. But apparently you do. And yet, you are still, just you...
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2016, 10:55:39 AM »
Oh it's on a little meme thing so it must be true, even though I've provided specific links to his exact quotes that completely contradict just about everything on there by factual examples of him professing his positions on those things...
You shut your mouth! Trump changed his mind. Didn't you hear?
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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2016, 11:18:02 AM »
Donald Trump Lied About His Support of the Second Amendment

Two Dozen Veterans Charities Waiting on Funds Raised by Trump

Trump:  "I'm changing" on H-1B Visas

You're being conned.  But he speaks the best words!

he gave money to ant-gun democrats and that makes him a liar on the second amendment? REACHING

From your article:
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“We haven’t received any money yet, but [we] do expect to get it. It’s not unusual when someone or an organization has an event, for it to take weeks or even months before we receive a check, “ said Kerri Childress, vice president of Fisher House, one of the 22 veterans charities on the Trump list that hasn’t received money as of publication of this story.
Once again REACHING!


He's right about the brain power. He just has to be careful that he does not get called an anti immigration racist bigot by not wanting the unskilled  labor to enter the country on these visas. Then again this is neither here nor there on any subject in the meme!

Any more bogeymen you want to exercise?


Some of you are so hellbent on hating the man for every little thing that you are missing the big picture. That big picture was on the RIGHT side of that meme. If you think the positions of the evil one on the right side of that meme are acceptable, then vote for her.
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2016, 11:21:15 AM »
You're being conned.  But he speaks the best words!
Does he though?



Washington Post released the full transcript of him blundering through attempting to discuss policy for an hour without really answering a single question at all, lest people think he's being taken out of context.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-shocking-ignorance-laid-bare/2016/03/24/b66d2b6c-f1f7-11e5-89c3-a647fcce95e0_story.html

Of course, if you his "poorly educated" base (his words) hear him saying words that sound smart-like and don't have the cognitive capacity to understand that he's just blabbering a bunch of non-sequitur idiocy, so this does nothing to quell his support.
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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2016, 11:26:48 AM »
he gave money to ant-gun democrats and that makes him a liar on the second amendment? REACHING

From your article:Once again REACHING!

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/
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The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s internet technology we should be able to tell within 72 hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2016, 02:13:09 PM »
Some of you are so hellbent on hating the man for every little thing that you are missing the big picture. That big picture was on the RIGHT side of that meme. If you think the positions of the evil one on the right side of that meme are acceptable, then vote for her.

I know you're blinded by the orange spray tan and the machismo but what YOU are failing to realize is that Trump is the only candidate that will unequivocally lose to the Hildabeast.  Cruz or Kasich would beat Hillary in a head-to-head general election.  Trump will not.  I won't waste my time pulling the massive amount of polling data that supports my position because it won't matter to you anyway.

I'll be over here saying "I told you so" in November when Hillary is announced president-elect. 
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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2016, 02:55:43 PM »
CCTAU and Kaos can vote with Susan Sarandon and call everyone else libruhl beta males for not aligning with her. Those of us with principles will not.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/29/susan-sarandon-trump-might-be-better-for-america-than-hillary-clinton.html
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Susan Sarandon: Trump Might Be Better for America Than Hillary Clinton

If Bernie Sanders fails to get the Democratic nomination, Susan Sarandon isn’t sure she’ll vote for Hillary Clinton. She even said Monday that Trump could be the better option.

One of the biggest question marks for Democrats heading into a 2016 general election that should be a cakewalk with a candidate like Donald Trump on the other side is what happens to Bernie Sanders’ supporters if he loses the nomination to Hillary Clinton.

Some will inevitably fall in line and find a way to get excited about the likelihood of America’s first woman president. But many others may end up feeling just as alienated from the political process as they did before Sanders entered the race and just decide to stay home.

For instance, there’s Susan Sarandon.

The actress and activist has been a powerful surrogate for Sanders on the campaign trail over the past few months, and during an interview with MSNBC’s All In With Chris Hayes Monday night, she said she doesn’t know if she can bring herself to vote for Clinton if it comes down to it.

“I think, in certain quarters, there’s growing concern that the folks that are into Bernie Sanders have come to despise Hillary Clinton or reject Hillary Clinton and that should she be the nominee, which is as yet undetermined, they will walk away,” Hayes said.

“That’s a legitimate concern,” Sarandon replied. “Because they’re very passionate and principled.”

“But isn’t that crazy?” the host asked. “If you believe in what he believes in?”

“Yeah but she doesn’t,” Sarandon shot back. “She accepted money for all of those people. She doesn’t even want to fight for a $15 minimum wage. So these are people that have not come out before. So why would we think they’re going to come out now for her, you know?”

As they continued to discuss the issue, Hayes pressed Sarandon to see the election as potentially a choice between Clinton and Trump, arguing that Sanders himself would “probably” urge his supporters to vote for her.

“I think Bernie would probably encourage people, because he doesn’t have any ego in this thing,” Sarandon told him. “But I think a lot of people are, ‘Sorry, I just can’t bring myself to [vote for Clinton].’”
“How about you personally?” Hayes asked.

“I don’t know. I’m going to see what happens,” Sarandon said.

That bit of honesty prompted Hayes to stop in his tracks. “Really?” he asked incredulously.

“Really,” Sarandon said, adding that “some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately if he gets in, things will really explode.” Asked if she thinks that’s “dangerous,” she replied, “It’s dangerous to think that we can continue the way we are with the militarized police force, with privatized prisons, with the death penalty, with the low minimum wage, threats to women’s rights and think you can’t do something huge to turn that around.”

One thing Hayes neglected to confront Sarandon over was her support in 2000 of third-party candidate Ralph Nader instead of then-Vice President Al Gore. The actress served as a co-chairwoman of his National Steering Committee the year that George W. Bush narrowly beat Gore, thanks to Nader’s status as spoiler for the Democrats.

However, by 2004 she appeared to have learned her lesson. Along with former Nader supporters like Michael Moore, she urged the candidate to get out of the race out of fear that he would help deliver Bush a second term. This time, Bush didn’t need Nader’s help. But if Clinton ends up losing to Trump in a general election, all eyes will be on Sanders supporters who decided to stay home.
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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2016, 04:26:31 PM »
I know you're blinded by the orange spray tan and the machismo but what YOU are failing to realize is that Trump is the only candidate that will unequivocally lose to the Hildabeast.  Cruz or Kasich would beat Hillary in a head-to-head general election.  Trump will not.  I won't waste my time pulling the massive amount of polling data that supports my position because it won't matter to you anyway.

I'll be over here saying "I told you so" in November when Hillary is announced president-elect.

Reagan was losing to Carter by 28 points at this time in eh cycle.

Bottom line is, Cruz or Kasich cannot win the nomination. If they could, they would have already.

You are either for or against hitlary.
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2016, 04:28:13 PM »
CCTAU and Kaos can vote with Susan Sarandon and call everyone else libruhl beta males for not aligning with her. Those of us with principles will not.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/29/susan-sarandon-trump-might-be-better-for-america-than-hillary-clinton.html

I admit that is an odd thing. And You have no better principles than i or Kaos. Hell, you don't have enough experience at success to have principles...
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: Explaining Trump to the betas!
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2016, 05:04:58 PM »
CCTAU...you are just perpetrating the stereotype here dude...

It's almost like you are saying some of this shit on purpose...
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2016, 05:22:02 PM »
I admit that is an odd thing. And You have no better principles than i or Kaos. Hell, you don't have enough experience at success to have principles...
One of us had enough experience with success to leave Prattville, AL.
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