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[WiregrassTiger]

Idealism led me to vote for Perot two times.

Although it wasn't a costly mistake, IMO, as Slick Willy was better than what will be this time.

Regardless, I won't make the same mistake although it likely won't matter.

[AUChizad]

There is that line of thinking again.  If you weren't so damn thick skulled and get the actual point....I will explain this again.

"Lets all" get fed up and sick and tied of the GOP (who are nothing but Republican in name only, hence RHINO) and get out and campaign, work and spread the word, we could possibly elect a third party candidate that is actually worth a shit.  But "Lets all" sit around and do nothing and keep getting the same stale candidates that represent nothing we won't.

Not only is that always the case. It is ESPECIALLY the case this year more than any other in spades. The presumptive nominee is both a fucking clown and not actually conservative at all in a traditional small government/big government sense.

People aren't crazy about the presumptive nominees on the left either. THIS is the first year that I think IF they get the Libertarian on the stage at the debates and IF the word gets out enough that he is a legitimate choice, he absolutely can win this particular election, due to the unique circumstances.

[Kaos]

Not only is that always the case. It is ESPECIALLY the case this year more than any other in spades. The presumptive nominee is both a fucking clown and not actually conservative at all in a traditional small government/big government sense.

People aren't crazy about the presumptive nominees on the left either. THIS is the first year that I think IF they get the Libertarian on the stage at the debates and IF the word gets out enough that he is a legitimate choice, he absolutely can win this particular election, due to the unique circumstances.

No chance.  Sorry

[AUChizad]

No chance.  Sorry

With that attitude, you're right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

[Kaos]

With that attitude, you're right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

For it to work you need somebody strong.  Somebody charismatic.  Somebody compelling. 

This guy is none of those things.   He looks like a Church of God In Christ lay pastor.  And like he'd jump on a small boy's penis. 

[CCTAU]

For it to work you need somebody strong.  Somebody charismatic.  Somebody compelling. 

I don't think we will ever see anyone that can drag votes for the left like you would need for this THEORY to work.

It sounds good, IN THEORY. Just not in real life.

[CCTAU]

Idealism led me to vote for Perot two times.

Although it wasn't a costly mistake, IMO, as Slick Willy was better than what will be this time.

Regardless, I won't make the same mistake although it likely won't matter.

I'm not sure some of these young guys remember Perot. I too voted for him. His economics made sense. Just think if we had implemented the .50 tax on gas that went straight to the deficit, where we would be today.(of course it would have been hijacked by now).

And I honestly believe that he would have never left America hanging. EVER.

And you are correct in that we had the greatest republican congress ever to be slick Willy in check.

I could not afford to vote that way today. It's like the chizads of the world act like they are the only ones that ever had the idea of a third party. In ten years they'll realize the futility of it.

[GH2001]

And with thinking like this, we will always be stuck with the two party system of R's and D's that are more worried about being government spenders and holding on to power.

Broad blanket sensationalism is a bad policy man.

One party at its core doesn't believe that. The issue is that many within its boundaries do. Not all of them though.

[Token]

I talked to a guy today who told me he voted for Trump, and against any female delegate on the ballot.

[CCTAU]

I talked to a guy today who told me he voted for Trump, and against any female delegate on the ballot.

Well to be fair, it was probably Trump disguised as the devil that you talked to!

[AUChizad]

Missed this earlier.

I'm extremely left on a few issues. Again, I wonder how accurate the site is in matching my views with candidates. I selected pro-life except in the cases of incest, rape, and health dangers for the mother and/or child. Does that make me a radical Commie Sanders supporter? I don't think the NSA should be spying on allies nor do I think the FBI should be able to force Apple to crack open iPhones. Does that mean I'm a hippy? I don't know. I think there's a place on the site to see how my votes aligned with each candidate. I should check that out.

There is definitely that. On the page where it shows all the candidates and what percentage you match, right under is a section that says "compare answers".

I didn't. The question was "Do you support Obamacare?" and I put no. Does that put me in the Cruz camp?

Probably. Like I said, it gives you the option for more nuanced answers, and I recommend clicking those to get more accurate comparisons to your actual views. Very rarely did I just put "Yes" or "No" to almost anything.

[Kaos]

I don't think we will ever see anyone that can drag votes for the left like you would need for this THEORY to work.

It sounds good, IN THEORY. Just not in real life.

See: Socialism.

[AUTiger1]

Broad blanket sensationalism is a bad policy man.

One party at its core doesn't believe that. The issue is that many within its boundaries do. Not all of them though.

Who, Amash, Paul and Massie?  I am seriously finding Republicans who are what they claim to be.  Sure they talk a good talk but don't vote like they talk. 

I get what you're saying, and yeah, not all of them do, but the ones that are in the race have proven otherwise.

[GH2001]

Who, Amash, Paul and Massie?  I am seriously finding Republicans who are what they claim to be.  Sure they talk a good talk but don't vote like they talk. 

I get what you're saying, and yeah, not all of them do, but the ones that are in the race have proven otherwise.

You really need to do some research then. Your guy Johnson is pro amnesty and open borders. And his abortion stance is sketchy at best. His tarriff ideas are those of delusion. I've looked into all of these guys. Their positions. How they vote. Etc etc. Including Johnson. Sure he's decent. But he's a wasted vote. Especially when 90% of his views are shared with Paul and Cruz who did run for the GOP this cycle.

You want amnesty? You want your tax dollars going to federal funding of abortion? Or just partial birth no matter? Cause I don't.

His positions are almost identical to Paul and Cruz except for those two issues. But hey that's the libertarian mantra. All or none. And that's why they'll never go anywhere as a viable party.

[AUChizad]

You really need to do some research then. Your guy Johnson is pro amnesty and open borders. And his abortion stance is sketchy at best. His tarriff ideas are those of delusion. I've looked into all of these guys. Their positions. How they vote. Etc etc. Including Johnson. Sure he's decent. But he's a wasted vote. Especially when 90% of his views are shared with Paul and Cruz who did run for the GOP this cycle.

You want amnesty? You want your tax dollars going to federal funding of abortion? Or just partial birth no matter? Cause I don't.

His positions are almost identical to Paul and Cruz except for those two issues. But hey that's the libertarian mantra. All or none. And that's why they'll never go anywhere as a viable party.

Correction: He does support a simple path to citizenship, but not open borders, as do I.

He is personally against abortion but thinks the government has no right to get involved in that choice, and CERTAINLY doesn't want one tax dollar funding them. Again, I share this view.

[Kaos]

Correction: He does support a simple path to citizenship, but not open borders, as do I.

He is personally against abortion but thinks the government has no right to get involved in that choice, and CERTAINLY doesn't want one tax dollar funding them. Again, I share this view.

I share a lot of views with the guy I play golf with who is an engineer with AT&T. 

He's got just as much chance of being elected president as I do.  Or Johnson does. 

[WiregrassTiger]

I voted "none of the above" in the primary but I plan to support Montgomery Brewster in the general.

[jmar]

I voted "none of the above" in the primary but I plan to support Montgomery Brewster in the general.

Ain't he a Whig?  Ye damn liberal!

[AUJarhead]

If this comes down to a Clinton vs Trump election, I'm writing in General Mattis.

[jmar]

If this comes down to a Clinton vs Trump election, I'm writing in General Mattis.

Mo better military!
Superior firepower for a damn fine future.
I like it.