Fear of a Black Cam

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #40 on:** January 29, 2016, 06:59:57 AM »

Quote from: The Prowler on January 28, 2016, 11:25:29 PM

I like it. I'm hoping he starts pulling out sharpies and signs footballs. Also, I liked it when Terrell Owens stomped on the Star, fuck the Cowboys.

I for one, apparently, hopes that he dances, dabs, Supermans and smiles all around the field after winning the Superbowl.

How dare he act like he enjoys scoring TDs and winning...he needs to grow up and stop enjoying the game like he's still in park ball.

I agree. Maybe I haven't seen the right clips, but I haven't seen Cam do that much to disrespect other players. He talks trash. Yeah. He does. A lot. And he's good at it.

But how many other players have been lauded for talking trash? Here's a video from the NFL that celebrates the best trash talkers in the league: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d82084d7e/Biggest-trash-talkers

Cam plays QB, so many expect he's supposed to be part of the country club crowd.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 29, 2016, 08:39:58 AM »

Posted this on woopig...seems germane to this discussion:

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Had Cam not attended Auburn, I might dislike the guy, too.

My consternation would be with the little celebrations over mundane accomplishments. You're an all-pro...you're supposed to get first downs.

That said, I always gave guys like Deion, TO and Ochocinco a bit of a pass because it was so fun to watch them play at their highest level (a few floors above everyone on the field at that moment). I shrugged off the celebrations because they were backing up the boast. They earned the right to dance and act a fool.

Since I have watched Cam closely the past 5-6 years, especially all the work with kids, I've decided he's just a really big kid at heart. I think he's genuinely excited by those little accomplishments and his celebration is not intended to taunt the defense, but to celebrate the moment.

Or maybe I'm just rationalizing and would be hater #1 if he had gone to any other school.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #42 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:05:54 AM »

The cot damn Germans ain't got nothing to do with this.

Agreed though. I think he really is just a big ol' kid.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:16:36 AM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on January 29, 2016, 06:59:57 AM

Cam plays QB, so many expect he's supposed to be part of the country club crowd.

I think this has a lot to do with it as well. Black QBs are often discounted as "athletes", implying that they don't have the mental capacity for the position. This opinion is largely held by the old guard (read: decrepit white men) who are uncomfortable with the evolution of the game. The traditional QB was a thoughtful white guy who had quiet reserve and a steely demeanor. The "John Wayne" of the field, if you will.

Enter the Django-esque black QBs: Culpepper, Vick, Cam, etc. They not only have to perform on the field, but they must also toe the line and give their best Carlton Banks impersonation to win the favor of the aforementioned old guard. Those who don't are castigated.

I think it's great how the media narrative is now turning: Cam is gaining traction in the media (Cowherd is a huge supporter) and the haters are being exposed as bitter reactionaries.

AUChizad · « **Reply #44 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:55:26 AM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on January 29, 2016, 06:59:57 AM

I agree. Maybe I haven't seen the right clips, but I haven't seen Cam do that much to disrespect other players. He talks trash. Yeah. He does. A lot. And he's good at it.

But how many other players have been lauded for talking trash? Here's a video from the NFL that celebrates the best trash talkers in the league: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d82084d7e/Biggest-trash-talkers

Cam plays QB, so many expect he's supposed to be part of the country club crowd.

I agree with Townhall for agreeing with Prowler.

Can't believe some of the shit coming from our own fans, even if you do qualify it with "I'd feel that way if he wasn't one of our own".

When did half this board become Nolan Nawrocki?

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â€œVery disingenuous â€” has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup,â€

â€œAlways knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement that continually invites trouble and makes him believe he is above the law â€” does not command respect from teammates and will always struggle to win a locker room . . . Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness â€” is not punctual, seeks shortcuts and sets a bad example. Immature and has had issues with authority. Not dependable.â€

Are y'all telling me y'all agree with this load of horseshit now? Heaven forbid a professional football player look like he's enjoying what he's doing out there. Heaven forbid he celebrate, which is an actual part of the pro game. Heaven forbid he "fake" smile. Jesus Christ, people, what happened to y'all over the last five years? Who hurt you?

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #45 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:55:53 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on January 29, 2016, 09:16:36 AM

I think this has a lot to do with it as well. Black QBs are often discounted as "athletes", implying that they don't have the mental capacity for the position. This opinion is largely held by the old guard (read: decrepit white men) who are uncomfortable with the evolution of the game. The traditional QB was a thoughtful white guy who had quiet reserve and a steely demeanor. The "John Wayne" of the field, if you will.

Enter the Django-esque black QBs: Culpepper, Vick, Cam, etc. They not only have to perform on the field, but they must also toe the line and give their best Carlton Banks impersonation to win the favor of the aforementioned old guard. Those who don't are castigated.

I think it's great how the media narrative is now turning: Cam is gaining traction in the media (Cowherd is a huge supporter) and the haters are being exposed as bitter reactionaries.

I'm a decrepit old white guy and race has nothing to do with it. Cam is the only one bringing up race and that's a pathetic attempt to deflect from the real issue. And what does being castrated have to do with any of this?

I've never had a problem with celebrations...little dances....pulling out a sharpie....discount double-checking. The game should be fun for the players and fans. But when your "Look at me" parties are so over the top and go on for so long, (even after the mundane first downs) that....and here's the key...you incite brawls in the endzone...that's a problem. These aren't decrepit old men wanting to beat his ass. These are his peers and twice within the last year those guys have said enough is enough.

They're not going after him because he's beating them. If that were the case, you'd see a fight break out after every game. They're going after him for the same reasons Sir Charles said I'd make sure we took his ass out.

djsimp · « **Reply #46 on:** January 29, 2016, 10:11:22 AM »

Cam is such a smug sumbitch

AUChizad · « **Reply #47 on:** January 29, 2016, 10:30:40 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on January 29, 2016, 09:55:53 AM

I'm a decrepit old white guy and race has nothing to do with it. Cam is the only one bringing up race and that's a pathetic attempt to deflect from the real issue. And what does being castrated have to do with any of this?

First of all, like I said before, I think his quote was widely misinterpreted (intentionally, for clicks) and certainly hugely magnified compared to what he actually said. He certainly didn't flatly come out and say "People hate me just because I'm black", regardless of how the headlines paraphrase.

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I've never had a problem with celebrations...little dances....pulling out a sharpie....discount double-checking. The game should be fun for the players and fans. But when your "Look at me" parties are so over the top and go on for so long, (even after the mundane first downs) that....and here's the key...you incite brawls in the endzone...that's a problem. These aren't decrepit old men wanting to beat his ass. These are his peers and twice within the last year those guys have said enough is enough.

Link? Like, what specifically do you take issue with? The dabbing after first downs? The one-second motion of covering his face with his elbow is so egregious and abnormal? He's the only player that ever shows any emotion after even small victories such as first downs, sacks, etc.? You're acting like he's out there doing throat-slashing motions or pretending to take a shit with the football (which I still thought was hilarious when Doug Baldwin did exactly that, by the way)

All he's doing is smiling, dabbing, and dancing after touchdowns (the latter, is pretty much the standard).

What exactly is your beef grandpa? I need more specificity than "Look at me parties".

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #48 on:** January 29, 2016, 10:34:57 AM »

I've poked a few posters in this thread--which is a private matter--but I've seen Cam over-do his celebrations to my liking. Both, at AU and Carolina. BUT, and you have a huge butt, I've always thought that he is genuine.

And I think he has a good heart for kids, sick folks, etc. He could have me completely fooled but I will believe it till proven otherwise.

How many times have we seen this guy do stuff like this in person? A bunch if you watched him after games at AU.

Yeah, he's a showboat. I can deal with it. He backs it up.

And he his career may very well end in an horrific injury. But, it will probably have nothing to do with his celebrations and more about him actually trying to be Superman.

Rushing TD last week was a prime example. He could have easily chosen to cut left and avoid contact but he has to attempt a fly over his blocker and the defender and flip head first into the endzone. Because he's Cam. And, yes, it makes the highlight reels.

He's undeniably a showboat and the definition of extreme is very subjective.

I still love the man deeply.