Here's the Republican front runner...

[WiregrassTiger]

 

Ok. I'm still not. It is irrelevant to the argument I'm making. Taking that stance is not "middle ground" between what I'm saying and anything else, because IT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

And here's the thing: Apparently, some of you are taking the ostrich defense plan and saying that if you pretend a thing is not real then everyone will just ignore it and move on, when in reality, what you have both just stated is evidence to the contrary. I know, evidence, right? Who needs it!

If you (and Trump and the GOP and whoever) can't say "Yes, man made climate change is real, and here's what I propose we do about it", and then explain your moderate conservative approach to MODERATELY move to other fuel sources, including the aforementioned fracking and nuclear energy liberals hate, you are essentially just giving them justified reason to ignore your input altogether.

Dems: "The earth is round, so I propose going west would be the quickest route to Japan from here."
GOP: "SCIENCE DON'T KNOW SHIT! EARTH'S FLAT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO! FUCK SCIENCE!"
Dems: "Ok, idiot. You stay here, I'm going to Japan.

[Snaggletiger]

Obama is going to Hiroshima.  He'll probably apologize.

[GH2001]

Ok. I'm still not. It is irrelevant to the argument I'm making. Taking that stance is not "middle ground" between what I'm saying and anything else, because IT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

And here's the thing: Apparently, some of you are taking the ostrich defense plan and saying that if you pretend a thing is not real then everyone will just ignore it and move on, when in reality, what you have both just stated is evidence to the contrary. I know, evidence, right? Who needs it!

If you (and Trump and the GOP and whoever) can't say "Yes, man made climate change is real, and here's what I propose we do about it", and then explain your moderate conservative approach to MODERATELY move to other fuel sources, including the aforementioned fracking and nuclear energy liberals hate, you are essentially just giving them justified reason to ignore your input altogether.

Dems: "The earth is round, so I propose going west would be the quickest route to Japan from here."
GOP: "SCIENCE DON'T KNOW SHIT! EARTH'S FLAT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO! FUCK SCIENCE!"
Dems: "Ok, idiot. You stay here, I'm going to Japan.

You know I'm not a trump fan but I think in the case of West Virginia hes simply telling them he's not going to shut it down. Which is why they like it. And he's stressing that his opponents are the opposite which they technically are. To me its simply drawing a stark contrast in a general election. I think the original argument started with trumps speeches to the coal folks.

Im not doing the ostrich approach by any means. That would be ignoring it all without a wide variety of choices and research. Ie, Look at how many hybrids there are on the road now compared to 10 years ago via the free market. I like that.

[dallaswareagle]

Obama is going to Hiroshima.  He'll probably apologize.

And order the crew of the Enola gay to be tried for 'Crimes against humanity" (and cause they were white)

[Pell City Tiger]

Wait a cotton picking minute. Are we arguing about Trump or Global Warming climate disruption climate change?

[CCTAU]

So you are saying the since we dumped R12 for R134A and R22 for R410A, that we saved the ozone?

And that it is a scientific fact?

Yes. I just explained how we know this and how the problem ceased when we switched. I'm sorry you didn't understand.

There are millions of homes still using r22 and still being serviced with r22. There are still a LOT of cars running with R12. And R12 still exists.
I think the most important aspect of the change to HFCs is the implementation of recovery procedures for these gasses instead of just venting to the atmosphere.

But if all of this is true and we repaired the ozone layer, wouldn't that be a reason for Antarctic warming and not "global warming"!

Or I guess we could say global warming IS man made since we cut the use of CFCs and close the hole in the ozone.

Dammit man, we are killing ourselves!

[Kaos]

Ok. I'm still not. It is irrelevant to the argument I'm making. Taking that stance is not "middle ground" between what I'm saying and anything else, because IT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

And here's the thing: Apparently, some of you are taking the ostrich defense plan and saying that if you pretend a thing is not real then everyone will just ignore it and move on, when in reality, what you have both just stated is evidence to the contrary. I know, evidence, right? Who needs it!

If you (and Trump and the GOP and whoever) can't say "Yes, man made climate change is real, and here's what I propose we do about it", and then explain your moderate conservative approach to MODERATELY move to other fuel sources, including the aforementioned fracking and nuclear energy liberals hate, you are essentially just giving them justified reason to ignore your input altogether.

Dems: "The earth is round, so I propose going west would be the quickest route to Japan from here."
GOP: "SCIENCE DON'T KNOW SHIT! EARTH'S FLAT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO! FUCK SCIENCE!"
Dems: "Ok, idiot. You stay here, I'm going to Japan.

And you continue to operate under the ridiculous assumption that global warming change is real. 

Dims: oh shit!! Al gore!! A journal!!  It's hot. The sky is falling. No more coal or gas for peasants!! 

Sane world: wait just a fucking minute you fucking loon. 

Rims: Ayyyyyheeee!! Oooooaaaahhhh!!  Green energy, no coal!  Windmills and shit! 

Sane world: The fuck is your problem. Slow your roll. Most of what you're saying is speculation based on a flawed sample.  Let's take a measured approach.

Dims: ohohohohogogogogogoh. Sky is falling. Oh shit.  Government control! Government control! 

Sane world.  Oh, fuck you.  Eat a dick.

[AUChizad]

You know I'm not a trump fan but I think in the case of West Virginia hes simply telling them he's not going to shut it down. Which is why they like it. And he's stressing that his opponents are the opposite which they technically are. To me its simply drawing a stark contrast in a general election. I think the original argument started with trumps speeches to the coal folks.

By expressing his ignorance. That was what started all this.

He was saying "Not only am I ignorant that CO2 from coal is causing climate change, I'm still hung up on shit we solved 30 years ago".

Yeah, he's pandering, and yeah they all do it. But pandering about what an idiot you are is not a virtue.

[bottomfeeder]

No they backwards extrapolated just like they have tried to forward extrapolate.  It's all made up bullshit.

For a minute there, I thought you were referring to bama's 15,000 mythical national championships.

[Kaos]

By expressing his ignorance. That was what started all this.

He was saying "Not only am I ignorant that CO2 from coal is causing climate change, I'm still hung up on shit we solved 30 years ago".

Yeah, he's pandering, and yeah they all do it. But pandering about what an idiot you are is not a virtue.

Who the fuck says CO2 is "causing climate change"?

You? Some bloggers? Self-serving science fucks?  The guys who used to stick leeches on people? Those "scientists" who thought witches wouldn't drown? 

Science.  Fuck all.  The entire profession is nothing but a series of guesses that are then retro fit to circumstances. 

CO2 causes global whizfuck ever.  Yeah, right. 

Demanding that Trump acquiesce to your Chicken Little "science"'is elitist sorcery. 

[Snaggletiger]

Good heavens Ms. Sakamoto - you're beautiful.

[Buzz Killington]

What else floats in water?

[Snaggletiger]

What else floats in water?

Baby Ruth?

[AUChizad]

Who the fuck says CO2 is "causing climate change"?

You? Some bloggers? Self-serving science fucks?  The guys who used to stick leeches on people? Those "scientists" who thought witches wouldn't drown? 

Science.  Fuck all.  The entire profession is nothing but a series of guesses that are then retro fit to circumstances. 

CO2 causes global whizfuck ever.  Yeah, right. 

Demanding that Trump acquiesce to your Chicken Little "science"'is elitist sorcery.

[dallaswareagle]

What else floats in water?

Baby Ruth?

[Pell City Tiger]

What else floats in water?

Bread, apples, very small rocks .....

[Kaos]

Before chizad rushes here with this let me get out in front of it.  Stunning animation shows drastic effect of global warming!!!! Oh noes!!!! Oh shits!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/05/10/climate-spiral-rising-global-temperatures/84185746/

It's based on 166 years worth of data.  One hundred and sixty six. Out of billions.  Fuck.  Add two zeroes and it's not s statistically relevant sample.  The fucking hubris of these "scientists" who seriously think they can distill eons of cyclical climate patterns into a 166 year window. 

Laughable. 

[GH2001]

By expressing his ignorance. That was what started all this.

He was saying "Not only am I ignorant that CO2 from coal is causing climate change, I'm still hung up on shit we solved 30 years ago".

Yeah, he's pandering, and yeah they all do it. But pandering about what an idiot you are is not a virtue.

And as of this morning, so far - it's working for him in those states that have miners. Wv, penn and Ohio per the latest poll released today. I was a little shocked to be honest. And it happened quickly. Quinnipiac is usually pretty reputable too.

[Snaggletiger]

Hitlary loses another to the shriveled, old man. 

[Saniflush]

Obama is going to Hiroshima.  He'll probably apologize.

I had that same thought when I saw the blurb yesterday about him going.  My next thought was what should someone say when the inevitable question regarding the bombing comes up and our responsibility for it?

I understand that there has to be some tact when dealing with any issue like this but the jist of the retort should be "you started it , we finished it".  "Sorry your shit has been glowing for 70 years but doing stupid shit has to hurt."