Lsu thinks Les is more

Jumbo · « **on:** November 23, 2015, 12:28:24 PM »

Joe Shadd is reporting Les Miles is gonna be fired today.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14204487/good-possibility-lsu-tigers-buyout-les-miles-contract-source?ex_cid=sportscenterTW

The Six · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2015, 12:32:24 PM »

LSU - you have a coach with seven 10-win seasons, 2 SEC Championships, and a BCS Championship. And your plan is to fire this man? Good luck.

Jumbo · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2015, 12:58:53 PM »

The only way I would make this move is if Jimbo Fisher has already agreed to become the coach.

chinook · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:09:48 PM »

I would love for Miles to be our next coach.

Kaos · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:10:43 PM »

"In Louisiana, we expect national championships, and we're not in it"

Yeah. Expect something that's happened 2.4% of the time. I did the math.

Les is one of the good guys. I wasn't on his wagon initially, but over the years and as I learned more due to my ......... being an LSU fan, I've come to really admire the guy. He's the kind of man I'd want coaching my kids.

Godfather · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:15:12 PM »

He has a moron as an Offensive Coordinator that is his first problem.

djsimp · « **Reply #6 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:25:19 PM »

If LSU fires Les, this will officially make corndogs smarter than the PTB.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:33:17 PM »

I can't wait.

Les is one of (I think) three coaches to have a .750 winning percentage with 100+ games coached. He's also a solid recruiter and players love to play for him.

So please, LSU. Fire the guy. Bring in a Jerry Stovall, a Curly Hallman, a Mike Archer, or a Gerry Dinardo.

LSU fans are deluded. They think if they had a slightly better coach, they would be just as dominant as Alabama. I on the other hand feel that they are about to make life a lot easier for Auburn.

Godfather · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:45:48 PM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on November 23, 2015, 01:33:17 PM

I can't wait.

Les is one of (I think) three coaches to have a .750 winning percentage with 100+ games coached. He's also a solid recruiter and players love to play for him.

So please, LSU. Fire the guy. Bring in a Jerry Stovall, a Curly Hallman, a Mike Archer, or a Gerry Dinardo.

LSU fans are deluded. They think if they had a slightly better coach, they would be just as dominant as Alabama. I on the other hand feel that they are about to make life a lot easier for Auburn.

If I were USCe I would be calling saying how much you want coach?

Godfather · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:47:44 PM »

LSU coach Les Miles addressed three questions at his weekly Monday press conference about his job status and said he's "going to go to work." Asked if he met with administrators or athletic department officials about his job, he responded: "The information I have is 'Do your job as you would do it.' If someone is asking me if I'm coaching for my job, I feel like I've been doing that for 11 years." Said he's not considering retirement. Emphasized this week is about his players and won't address his future until after the regular season and that he's not paying attention to media reports.

Godfather · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:48:59 PM »

Quote from: Jumbo on November 23, 2015, 12:28:24 PM

Joe Shadd is reporting

Silly me I missed this part of Jumbo's link.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2015, 02:11:53 PM »

You use part of the astronomical buyout money and go hire a new OC. If/when you have a Come-To-Jesus with Les, you tell him if you want to stay here, then get out the way and let the new guy run the offense. You recruit, run the show, make the goofy decisions to go for it on 4th sixteen times a game. But get someone new in and give em' the keys to the offense.

On another note, in the "Les is Richt" department, I saw the video this weekend of the documentary on the Birmingham kid who died of cancer they played 2-3 weekends back. Someone may have posted it on here, but if they did I didn't watch because I had heard that you won't make it through w/o reaching for a Kleenex. Well, it was shown in our Sunday School class yesterday. If you didn't see it, young kid about 15 was a huge LSU fan. Got bone cancer and his health quickly deteriorated. Miles found out and got him down to Baton Rouge for the Auburn game then stayed in touch with him until the end. And no...there was not one dry eye in the room when that thing was over.

I've always liked Miles. Thought he'd be a great coach to play for. This documentary shed a whole new light on the man for me. Again, if it was posted already, I'll go ahead and take my X come-uppance. But I won't be watching that again.

GH2001 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2015, 02:57:28 PM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on November 23, 2015, 01:33:17 PM

a Curly Hallman, a Mike Archer, or a Gerry Dinardo.

I remember these guys first hand.

But LSU fans apparently forget easily.

Like K said, I think Les is one of the good guys. I like him. Boneheaded, sure. But great dude, and he knows how to do enough right to have kept them elite for almost a decade straight. Good luck with this one LSU! I for one am happy to see it. Guy has had us by the balls.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2015, 04:41:44 PM »

Stole this from elsewhere:

From 1960 until 1999, LSU had three 10 win seasons.

From 2000 until 2004 (the illustrious Saban years), LSU had two 10 win seasons.

From 2005 until 2014, LSU has had seven 10 win seasons.

I am so freaking excited to see those assholes get taken a down a notch with some shit hire.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2015, 04:51:38 PM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on November 23, 2015, 04:41:44 PM

Stole this from elsewhere:

From 1960 until 1999, LSU had three 10 win seasons.

From 2000 until 2004 (the illustrious Saban years), LSU had two 10 win seasons.

From 2005 until 2014, LSU has had seven 10 win seasons.

I am so freaking excited to see those assholes get taken a down a notch with some shit hire.

See, that's what I recall. I've been around a while and I never remember LSU being relevant in any shape or form until Saban got there. They would occasionally be competitive but never a player on the national scene with any consistency.

Very similar to Florida. Amarite or Amarong in misremembering that they didn't even have an SEC championship until Spurrier arrived?

The Prowler · « **Reply #15 on:** November 23, 2015, 05:03:24 PM »

Quote from: Jumbo on November 23, 2015, 12:28:24 PM

Joe Shadd is reporting Les Miles is gonna be fired today.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14204487/good-possibility-lsu-tigers-buyout-les-miles-contract-source?ex_cid=sportscenterTW

Imagine that, Joe Shadd is wrong again.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #16 on:** November 23, 2015, 05:24:34 PM »

Source: "Joe Schadd and Thayer Evans have quite possibly sucked cock on more than one occasion. Possibly, each other's cock."

jmar · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2015, 06:57:08 PM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on November 23, 2015, 04:51:38 PM

See, that's what I recall. I've been around a while and I never remember LSU being relevant in any shape or form until Saban got there. They would occasionally be competitive but never a player on the national scene with any consistency.

Very similar to Florida. Amarite or Amarong in misremembering that they didn't even have an SEC championship until Spurrier arrived?

You are very right sir.

RWS · « **Reply #18 on:** November 24, 2015, 08:09:05 AM »

I think the biggest problem with Miles is that it's like he's coaching in a daze. When you watch his post-game conferences, it's like listening to a guy in a fog. Team has been playing the same way. One of the biggest issues everyone has with Miles is that the offensive problems have been apparent for years and he seems unwilling to change his philosophy. The Alabama game was a showcase of that when they kept running Fournette up the gut until about 5 minutes left in the game, which is where he got most of his yardage. It's like they have a plan, and if that doesn't work, well then I guess the game is just a loss. Really weird.

The parallels can be drawn between Miles and Tuberville. Except in Tuberville's case, he was actually ahead of the curve trying to implement the spread. He was ahead of everyone. It's just 2008 was a really weird season and he picked the wrong coordinator who in turn went after the wrong personnel. Alabama's 2008 recruiting class was a monster, and nobody expected them to do as well as they did. I think Tuberville was caught off guard in that aspect in recruiting as well. But that was a time where Alabama and Auburn were signing half of their classes from Alabama. Now, each team is only pulling 5-7 guys from Alabama each year. Auburn had a knee-jerk reaction and got rid of a guy that would have had Auburn stable by 2010 IMO.

Les on the other hand doesn't understand that the days of 3 yards and a cloud of dust are pretty much over. Yeah, you can still do it to an extent, but you have to mix a lot of other stuff in there as well. Years ago, Alabama, Auburn or LSU could pretty much tell a defense "Hey, we're running in this gap. Fuck you." and it worked. There is more parity in the SEC west now, and you just can't do that anymore. He has refused to modernize whereas even someone as much of an asshole as Saban has realized he had to change the way he does things.

TL;DR: Les has been successfull overall, but hasn't done shit since 2011 and things are getting worse. He is too stubborn to change his ways, so there seems to be no hope on improvement.

AUJarhead · « **Reply #19 on:** November 24, 2015, 08:30:37 AM »

Quote from: RWS on November 24, 2015, 08:09:05 AM

It's just 2008 was a really weird season and he picked the wrong coordinator who in turn went after the wrong personnel.

Tubs biggest issue wasn't that he went after Franklin, it's that he kept all the offensive staff in place. Franklin didn't hire anyone to come in and coach with him. I think it would have been just as much a disaster if he brought in Gus in 2008.

So the whole "went after the wrong personnel" isn't quite right. More like "didn't go after any staff."