2) The acting from both Rey and Finn was really terrible. 3/4 of their scenes involved running toward the camera, sliding to a stop and making some sort of grimacing face.
Disagree. Compared to the prequels they are fucking Sir Laurence Olivier. And if you try to shed the nostalgia, the original trilogy cast wasn't exactly Daniel Day Lewis. I think the performances here were great, especially by comparison.
3) I'm just not ready to accept the fact that either she or sweating boy could pick up a light sword and immediately go to battle against some supposedly deadly master of the force. All that was so inconsistent.
a) How did they know how to use the sword in the first place?
b) How could they match parry and thrust against somebody trained to use it
Gotta agree with you on these. Thought the same thing at the time, I'll add that it was amazing with no training that Rey suddenly was a master of the force. BTW how did she know how to Jedi mind trick? She lived on the planet by herself, thought Jedi were just a myth, messes with Jewish Solo once and suddenly she knows how to Jedi Mind trick the guard.
I'll lump these together. First of all, it was obvious that she had at least heard about the Force, Jedi's etc., but believed them to be myths. Han tells her "it's all true". After Maz Kanata shows her the lightsaber and then she has the "Force vision" like Luke had at Degoba, it's pretty clear she was getting a sense that shit was up. Furthermore, like I said, it's pretty obvious she's Luke's daughter, and maybe we find out the mother is also a Jedi, so maybe the force is even stronger in her than anyone we've seen before, allowing her to at least show some ability to use it without proper training.
Regardless of that, I fail to see how Luke's journey to the Force is super believable but Rey's is just completely implausible.
Before Luke met Yoda, he was already able to fight blindfolded against the drone thing, force pull a lightsaber in the wampa cave, communicate with a force ghost, hit an "impossible, even for a computer" target in the Death Star. Remember, Obi-wan didn't train him, he just told him about the Force. Pretty much just what Han did with Rey.
By comparison, Rey pulled together everything she had to do a mind trick on a stormtrooper after failing a few times first and kind-of-sort-of force pulled a lightsaber herself. I guess you could say she also resisted Kylo Ren's mind reading, and also was able to fend him off when he was injured and distracted. And like Brian said, clearly he's learning the ropes a bit himself.
And I assume "sweaty boy" is Finn? Clearly, he wasn't exactly great at wielding the lightsaber considering he got his ass handed to him. And Jedi aren't the only ones that can use lightsabers. Remember Han used one to slice open a tauntaun. And the four-armed robot General Grievous used lightsabers like a fucking Cirque du Soleil juggler in the prequels.
c) If whiny tempermental Jewish boy was such a Jedi badass that he could stop a laser bolt from a gun, why didn't he just throw a little force at the black kid, immobilize him and carve him up like a Christmas turkey?
d) Jedi can fly through the air. That silly ass gap in the ground from the explosion would be nothing to jump over
When have Jedi flown through the air? In the prequels I guess Yoda does some unnaturally high gymnastic jumping, but first of all, as we mentioned, the prequels are pretty much garbage, and secondly, it's not exactly self levitation.
5) They land on a place THE SIZE OF A PLANET and immediately stumble on Rey. That's like me knowing that my pet rabbit was taken to China, taking a plane and immediately coming across the same pasture where my rabbit is hopping around. Yeah. No.
Again, plenty of precedence for this in both the originals and prequels. How did Luke know where to find Yoda on the entire planet of Dagobah? In Phantom menace, Qui Gon and Obi Wan stow away on separate ships (for no explainable reason) to Naboo and they meet up in the same spot in the woods on the complete opposite side of the planet of the city Amagdala's in, which is why they went there in first place. Remember, they had to coincidentally stumble upon Jar Jar, who brought them underwater, and then they decided that the quickest way to the city would just be to swim through the core of the planet. By comparison to that bullshit, this is completely plausible.
I think, bottom line, you're watching this one with adult eyes and completely forgave all of this same exact type of shit in the originals.
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