The Force Awakens

[GH2001]

#whitepeopleproblems

Besides, I thought this was a thread about Snags finally getting his hands on some viagra.

[AUJarhead]

#whitepeopleproblems

Besides, I thought this was a thread about Snags finally getting his hands on some viagra.

It's not the Empire Strikes Out.

[Kaos]

It certainly could have been worse.  When you hear George Lucas say that his favorite character in the Star Wars universe is Jar Jar Binks, you realize he's so very far removed from understanding what he created and you're glad he had enough sense to step back and let someone else have a go. 

I'm still disappointed that the big weapon was the same concept as Episode IV and also stole directly from Abrams' Star Trek.

[CCTAU]

It was a nice episode. It felt like a 1977 reboot. But I enjoyed it. The worst thing about the movie was The Ben Solo character and actor. The actor was just hard to look at and the character was like a petulant child. I hope they never give him the title of Darth!

I really liked the new character Rey. I think she might end up being Luke's daughter.

Went with the wife, my 19 yr old son and my 16 yr old daughter. It was nice to be there as a family on Christmas Day.

[Snaggletiger]

Fastest movie to $1 Billion.

[chinook]

It was a nice episode. It felt like a 1977 reboot. But I enjoyed it. The worst thing about the movie was The Ben Solo character and actor. The actor was just hard to look at and the character was like a petulant child. I hope they never give him the title of Darth!

I really liked the new character Rey. I think she might end up being Luke's daughter.

Went with the wife, my 19 yr old son and my 16 yr old daughter. It was nice to be there as a family on Christmas Day.

such a nice story. please tell it again.

[GH2001]

Fastest movie to $1 Billion.

At 12 bucks a pop, it should have been.

Adjusted for inflation, Titanic and the first Star Wars in 1977 are pretty safe it seems.

[chinook]

At 12 bucks a pop, it should have been.

Adjusted for inflation, Titanic and the first Star Wars in 1977 are pretty safe it seems.

so is Gone with the Wind. 

[AUJarhead]

so is Gone with the Wind.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

1    Gone with the Wind    MGM    $1,685,052,200    $198,676,459    1939^
2    Star Wars    Fox    $1,485,517,400    $460,998,007    1977^
3    The Sound of Music    Fox    $1,187,744,200    $158,671,368    1965
4    E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial    Uni.    $1,183,065,200    $435,110,554    1982^
5    Titanic    Par.    $1,129,857,100    $658,672,302    1997^
6    The Ten Commandments    Par.    $1,092,540,000    $65,500,000    1956
7    Jaws    Uni.    $1,068,177,300    $260,000,000    1975
8    Doctor Zhivago    MGM    $1,035,289,700    $111,721,910    1965
9    The Exorcist    WB    $922,397,100    $232,906,145    1973^
10    Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs    Dis.    $909,060,000    $184,925,486    1937^

[Godfather]

Since it' has been out a week, some type of spoiler may be attached to this.  You have been warned.

I liked it overall, was it as good as 4, 5 & 6 no. I liked the new characters and I thought the acting and dialogue were light years ahead of the prequels. Also liked the cliff hanger ending.  However,

What was my biggest disappointment, the overall story.  To me it was basically A New Hope and Jedi combined.  Take a hero(ine) from a desert planet abandoned longing for something more that is strong with the force and doesn't know it.  (A new hope) Meet up with an smuggler (NH) Take out a shield to destroy the ultimate weapon (Jedi) Kill a character that is meaningful to story to bring about emotions and stir new feelings, also creating a villain (NH)

[CCTAU]

such a nice story. please tell it again.

It was a nice episode. It felt like a 1977 reboot. But I enjoyed it. The worst thing about the movie was The Ben Solo character and actor. The actor was just hard to look at and the character was like a petulant child. I hope they never give him the title of Darth!

I really liked the new character Rey. I think she might end up being Luke's daughter.

Went with the wife, my 19 yr old son and my 16 yr old daughter. It was nice to be there as a family
on Christmas Day.


Beyotch

[Godfather]

It certainly could have been worse.  When you hear George Lucas say that his favorite character in the Star Wars universe is Jar Jar Binks, you realize he's so very far removed from understanding what he created and you're glad he had enough sense to step back and let someone else have a go. 

There are some theories about Jar Jar which would explain why Lucas liked him so much and are worth a watch on youtube. 

Basically Lucas had planned for JarJar to be the main Sith Lord, the one overseeing all of it, the Emperor's (Darth Sideious) Sith Master.  Far fetched... could be.  I wouldn't put it past Lucas.  It is believed that he caved to fan's calling for JarJar's head on a platter and rewrote it.  It would also explain the fact of why he loved the character.

[AUChizad]

This post contains spoilers, so skip it if you haven't seen the new movie and don't want it spoiled.

Since it' has been out a week, some type of spoiler may be attached to this.  You have been warned.

I liked it overall, was it as good as 4, 5 & 6 no. I liked the new characters and I thought the acting and dialogue were light years ahead of the prequels. Also liked the cliff hanger ending.  However,

What was my biggest disappointment, the overall story.  To me it was basically A New Hope and Jedi combined.  Take a hero(ine) from a desert planet abandoned longing for something more that is strong with the force and doesn't know it.  (A new hope) Meet up with an smuggler (NH) Take out a shield to destroy the ultimate weapon (Jedi) Kill a character that is meaningful to story to bring about emotions and stir new feelings, also creating a villain (NH)

This seems to be the critique.

There are parallels and familiar elements. If there were less, I would have liked it less. The purpose of this movie was to bring back the familiarity of the original story, which the disjointed prequels completely failed to do. It is essentially history repeating. The Republic are in control, but now a new Imperial sect has formed and are getting ready to "finish what (the old Empire) started". We have a Luke-like character in Rey because she's going to be Luke's daughter. That's not a spoiler, I just gathered that based on Luke's voiceover in the trailer, and the movie itself. Poe & Finn really aren't all that much of carbon copies of Han & Leia, IMO. Finn is more naive and cowardly than any of the characters from the original trilogy. Poe, while we didn't see a lot of him in this movie, is sort of a badass and has a lot of dry funny lines, but that's really where his comparison to Han end.

The only thing I can kind of see as being a bit too recycled is the Starkiller just being a bigger Deathstar, and them blowing it up at the end. But I get it. The First Order (allusion to Third Reich?) wanted to improve upon the methods of the now fallen Empire. So they build a Death Star, but bigger. And it's got, like, a whole planet inside it, so I guess that's sort of new & improved as well.

So yeah, there are parallels to the original trilogy, which I think is entirely the point. Both to tie it into the original series, to show "history repeating", and most importantly to cleanse your palette from the dumpster fire prequels.

[Godfather]

This post contains spoilers, so skip it if you haven't seen the new movie and don't want it spoiled.
This seems to be the critique.

There are parallels and familiar elements. If there were less, I would have liked it less. The purpose of this movie was to bring back the familiarity of the original story, which the disjointed prequels completely failed to do. It is essentially history repeating. The Republic are in control, but now a new Imperial sect has formed and are getting ready to "finish what (the old Empire) started". We have a Luke-like character in Rey because she's going to be Luke's daughter. That's not a spoiler, I just gathered that based on Luke's voiceover in the trailer, and the movie itself. Poe & Finn really aren't all that much of carbon copies of Han & Leia, IMO. Finn is more naive and cowardly than any of the characters from the original trilogy. Poe, while we didn't see a lot of him in this movie, is sort of a badass and has a lot of dry funny lines, but that's really where his comparison to Han end.

The only thing I can kind of see as being a bit too recycled is the Starkiller just being a bigger Deathstar, and them blowing it up at the end. But I get it. The First Order (allusion to Third Reich?) wanted to improve upon the methods of the now fallen Empire. So they build a Death Star, but bigger. And it's got, like, a whole planet inside it, so I guess that's sort of new & improved as well.

So yeah, there are parallels to the original trilogy, which I think is entirely the point. Both to tie it into the original series, to show "history repeating", and most importantly to cleanse your palette from the dumpster fire prequels.

And I get that it.... it was basically a reboot. 

Was just disappointing to me.  I was just hoping for something a little more original. 

Like I said I liked it... a lot actually, can't wait for the next one.  Luke looked bad ass. To me originals are still the best, but 8 has me moist with anticipation.

[War Eagle!!!]

I don't remember sitting through 4,5 or 6. I watched 1 because of my little one at the time and thought it was stupid. I know who Luke, Vader, Hans Solo and Leia are...that's about it...

[Snaggletiger]

I don't remember sitting through 4,5 or 6. I watched 1 because of my little one at the time and thought it was stupid. I know who Luke, Vader, Hans Solo and Leia are...that's about it...

That's because you're a young buck.  When the original came out, there had never been anything like it.  It was one of those movies that blew everyone away.  Now granted, I recall making my kid sit down several years ago to watch the first one, thinking he'd "get" what I was talking about.  Even I thought it was pretty lame seeing it about 25 years later.

[Kaos]

Unlike most other people, I liked the movie less the second time I watched it. 

Spoilers

1) The non-reaction from Chewbacca and Leia after Han took a tumble was curious. Five minutes later they're strapping Rey into the Falcon and just moving on?  Felt cheap and wrong.

2) The acting from both Rey and Finn was really terrible. 3/4 of their scenes involved running toward the camera, sliding to a stop and making some sort of grimacing face.

3) I'm just not ready to accept the fact that either she or sweating boy could pick up a light sword and immediately go to battle against some supposedly deadly master of the force.  All that was so inconsistent.
a) How did they know how to use the sword in the first place?
b) How could they match parry and thrust against somebody trained to use it
c) If whiny tempermental Jewish boy was such a Jedi badass that he could stop a laser bolt from a gun, why didn't he just throw a little force at the black kid, immobilize him and carve him up like a Christmas turkey?
d) Jedi can fly through the air. That silly ass gap in the ground from the explosion would be nothing to jump over

4) The new death star was too easily defeated.  It was like a sidebar.  Oh, hey, we been looking for this map to Luke but let's not forget we got to destroy a death star in here somewhere.  And why do you stand around on the planet about to be destroyed and hope some kid who knows nothing can shut down some reactor or some shit?  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

5) They land on a place THE SIZE OF A PLANET and immediately stumble on Rey.  That's like me knowing that my pet rabbit was taken to China, taking a plane and immediately coming across the same pasture where my rabbit is hopping around. Yeah. No.

I could go on and on.  Everybody was just so starved for a Star Wars that wasn't as shitty as the three prequels that we're ignoring massive, glaring flaws in this one.  If this weren't a Star Wars movie chock full of sentimentality it would be getting much harsher reviews I think.

[Godfather]

a) How did they know how to use the sword in the first place?
b) How could they match parry and thrust against somebody trained to use it
c) If whiny tempermental Jewish boy was such a Jedi badass that he could stop a laser bolt from a gun, why didn't he just throw a little force at the black kid, immobilize him and carve him up like a Christmas turkey?
d) Jedi can fly through the air. That silly ass gap in the ground from the explosion would be nothing to jump over

Gotta agree with you on these.  Thought the same thing at the time, I'll add that it was amazing with no training that Rey suddenly was a master of the force.  BTW how did she know how to Jedi mind trick?  She lived on the planet by herself, thought Jedi were just a myth, messes with Jewish Solo once and suddenly she knows how to Jedi Mind trick the guard.

and Daisy Ridley is hot so she gets an acting pass. I'd like to give her the tip of my saber...if you know what I mean....know what I mean!

[AUJarhead]

I could go on and on.  Everybody was just so starved for a Star Wars that wasn't as shootty as the three prequels that we're ignoring massive, glaring flaws in this one.  If this weren't a Star Wars movie chock full of sentimentality it would be getting much harsher reviews I think.

My general feelings after a second viewing as well.

[Godfather]

That's because you're a young buck.  When the original came out, there had never been anything like it.  It was one of those movies that blew everyone away.  Now granted, I recall making my kid sit down several years ago to watch the first one, thinking he'd "get" what I was talking about.  Even I thought it was pretty lame seeing it about 25 years later.

Not true he is the same age as I am and save for the original I was 6 months I have seen them all in the theatre.  WDE!!! is just lame.