Unintended consequences of legalizing gay marriage.

CCTAU · « **on:** July 31, 2015, 11:39:44 AM »

I was talking to someone the other day and they relayed that their gay friend was all upset.
The company he worked for sent out an email claiming that since gay marriage was now legal in his state...

His domestic partnership agreement relating to company benefits was being terminated. If he wanted the benefits to continue, there needs to be a wedding.

I kinda chuckled at this. There are many gay couples out there who did not weigh in on the issue and were just fine with their lives. The loud militant ones of the group got what they wanted without thinking it through.
While I agree this is correct in a legal sense, you would think the company would give more than 2 months to make a decision....

It seems the loudest of us all are getting their way today, while we quiet ones sit back and take it.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:48:05 AM »

Does Jawja recognize common law marriage?

CCTAU · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:54:19 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on July 31, 2015, 11:48:05 AM

Does Jawja recognize common law marriage?

I wondered that also.

It does seem a bit harsh to expect someone to make a decision on getting married just to have benefits.

Although, they were getting benefits under the presumption that they would have gotten married if legal.

I also wondered if straight couples were allowed to have domestic partnership benefits at the same time.

Like I said, unintended consequences.

dallaswareagle · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2015, 12:08:47 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on July 31, 2015, 11:39:44 AM

I was talking to someone the other day and they relayed that their gay friend was all upset.
The company he worked for sent out an email claiming that since gay marriage was now legal in his state...

His domestic partnership agreement relating to company benefits was being terminated. If he wanted the benefits to continue, there needs to be a wedding.

I kinda chuckled at this. There are many gay couples out there who did not weigh in on the issue and were just fine with their lives. The loud militant ones of the group got what they wanted without thinking it through.
While I agree this is correct in a legal sense, you would think the company would give more than 2 months to make a decision....

It seems the loudest of us all are getting their way today, while we quiet ones sit back and take it.

Tis what being gay is all about.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:16:40 PM »

The most surprising thing to me in all of this re: your gay friend is to learn that the gays are now allowed into the klan.

DnATL · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:19:30 PM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on July 31, 2015, 01:16:40 PM

The most surprising thing to me in all of this re: your gay friend is to learn that the gays are now allowed into the klan.

Between the sheets, and now in the sheets too?

GH2001 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:23:06 PM »

This is just the start. There are MANY more unintended things that will rear their heads in the months and years to come as things develop. Like the Lion crap and other things (shootings)....everyone flies off the handle and demands an immediate action/remedy based off emotion.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:43:19 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on July 31, 2015, 02:23:06 PM

This is just the start. There are MANY more unintended things that will rear their heads in the months and years to come as things develop. Like the Lion crap and other things (shootings)....everyone flies off the handle and demands an immediate action/remedy based off emotion.

Unintended consequences?

Y'all are acting like these guys have been intentionally skirting the law but now they can't take advantage of us anymore. That's ridiculous...

They now have rights that everyone else has. And have to obey the laws...and tax laws...like everyone else has too. It's why this shit shouldn't have been a fucking issue in the first place. Let the gays marry, and the government needs to stay the fuck out of it. They have every right to have insurance and be able to file being married to get tax benefits. Now if they don't want to get married, fuck them, they have no marriage rights.

I don't see why this is so difficult for some people to handle...

CCTAU · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:50:33 PM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on July 31, 2015, 03:43:19 PM

Unintended consequences?

Y'all are acting like these guys have been intentionally skirting the law but now they can't take advantage of us anymore. That's ridiculous...

They now have rights that everyone else has. And have to obey the laws...and tax laws...like everyone else has too. It's why this shit shouldn't have been a fucking issue in the first place. Let the gays marry, and the government needs to stay the fuck out of it. They have every right to have insurance and be able to file being married to get tax benefits. Now if they don't want to get married, fuck them, they have no marriage rights.

I don't see why this is so difficult for some people to handle...

It's difficult because many of us were raised to believe that the EXIT ONLY part of our body was just that!

As for having rights, they could have had the same rights with a civil union. Marriage is between one man, one woman. The bastardization of the definition does not change that.

This was never about rights. It was about legitimizing a disgusting life choice.

So now they are seeing that sometimes what you want, is not what you expected.

The SCOTUS took a huge dump on the tenth amendment. And in the process proclaimed that a lifestyle choice is now defined as a genetically detectable race.

It was a sad day for the constitution.

As GH said, more to come!

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:59:14 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on July 31, 2015, 03:50:33 PM

This was never about rights. It was about legitimizing a disgusting life choice.

That's about as ignorant a statement as I have ever heard...

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:24:01 PM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on July 31, 2015, 03:59:14 PM

That's about as ignorant a statement as I have ever heard...

He's back, ladies and gentlemen.

CCTAU · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:43:29 PM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on July 31, 2015, 03:59:14 PM

That's about as ignorant a statement as I have ever heard...

Happy to supply you with new material. Now pick up your rainbow flag and March!

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2015, 07:11:06 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on July 31, 2015, 05:43:29 PM

Happy to supply you with new material. Now pick up your rainbow flag and March!

You're right.

It amazes me that some people want the government to protect people's rights that they believe in (like carry a firearm) but want the government to limit people's human rights (like gay marriage). You can't have it both ways. Either you want a government that controls everything or nothing. You can't pick and choose what you believe in and expect them to enforce that...

CCTAU · « **Reply #13 on:** August 02, 2015, 12:34:00 AM »

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on July 31, 2015, 07:11:06 PM

You're right.

It amazes me that some people want the government to protect people's rights that they believe in (like carry a firearm) but want the government to limit people's human rights (like gay marriage). You can't have it both ways. Either you want a government that controls everything or nothing. You can't pick and choose what you believe in and expect them to enforce that...

Lifestyle choice is NOT a human right! You are sorely confused. If you think it is, be prepared for all of the other deviants wanting theirs also.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2015, 09:23:34 AM »

Quote from: CCTAU on August 02, 2015, 12:34:00 AM

Lifestyle choice is NOT a human right! You are sorely confused. If you think it is, be prepared for all of the other deviants wanting theirs also.

Surely it falls somewhere in one of these categories of inalienable right: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Kaos · « **Reply #15 on:** August 02, 2015, 11:35:46 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on August 02, 2015, 09:23:34 AM

Surely it falls somewhere in one of these categories of inalienable right: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

No. No it doesn't.

The gays are alive, nobody's killing them these days much.
The gays are free. They're not being jailed unless they commit crimes.

They can pursue whatever they want. Doesn't say, mean or intend that whatever they pursue must be federally protected, funded, given the same weight as anything else, legalized, etc.

Choosing to be a pedophile isn't federally endorsed. That's a lifestyle choice. One guy chose to pork a pig in the Wal Mart bathroom. Lifestyle choice. Arrested. Even if he'd taken Petunia Pig home and diddled her -- what he does in his own home is his own business, right? -- he'd be subject to arrest and incarceration. What if it makes me happy to be naked in airports and shit in mall kiosks? Can I pursue that? What if it makes me happy to climb into the store window at Macys in NYC during the Thanksgiving parade and jerk off furiously as Santa passes? Lifestyle choice. I choose to be a Santa fancier.

Once you open the door for one deviation, you can't close it for others.

Idiots in the courts and legal profession have twisted the very meaning of the protections we were provided. At no point was that meant to be interpreted as "anything goes..."

wesfau2 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 02, 2015, 11:45:45 AM »

Quote from: Kaos on August 02, 2015, 11:35:46 AM

No. No it doesn't.

The gays are alive, nobody's killing them these days much.
The gays are free. They're not being jailed unless they commit crimes.

They can pursue whatever they want. Doesn't say, mean or intend that whatever they pursue must be federally protected, funded, given the same weight as anything else, legalized, etc.

Choosing to be a pedophile isn't federally endorsed. That's a lifestyle choice. One guy chose to pork a pig in the Wal Mart bathroom. Lifestyle choice. Arrested. Even if he'd taken Petunia Pig home and diddled her -- what he does in his own home is his own business, right? -- he'd be subject to arrest and incarceration. What if it makes me happy to be naked in airports and shit in mall kiosks? Can I pursue that? What if it makes me happy to climb into the store window at Macys in NYC during the Thanksgiving parade and jerk off furiously as Santa passes? Lifestyle choice. I choose to be a Santa fancier.

Once you open the door for one deviation, you can't close it for others.

Idiots in the courts and legal profession have twisted the very meaning of the protections we were provided. At no point was that meant to be interpreted as "anything goes..."

Hyuck-yuck...them gays gonna lead us to beastiality.

Typical.

CCTAU · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2015, 01:20:05 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on August 02, 2015, 11:45:45 AM

Hyuck-yuck...them gays gonna lead us to beastiality.

Typical.

Another of your typical holier than thou comments.

He hit it spot on and that is all ya got?

If the gay lifestyle choice has rights, then you cannot deny other lifestyle choice individuals their rights.

This was a horrible legal decision by SCOTUS. It violated the tenth amendment horribly.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 02, 2015, 01:46:35 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on August 02, 2015, 01:20:05 PM

Another of your typical holier than thou comments.

He hit it spot on and that is all ya got?

If the gay lifestyle choice has rights, then you cannot deny other lifestyle choice individuals their rights.

This was a horrible legal decision by SCOTUS. It violated the tenth amendment horribly.

I'll spare you the boring details, but the difference between your red herring and gay marriage is the tiny issue of consent. Your right to pursue happiness doesn't exist in a void.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #19 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:06:09 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on August 02, 2015, 01:46:35 PM

I'll spare you the boring details, but the difference between your red herring and gay marriage is the tiny issue of consent. Your right to pursue happiness doesn't exist in a void.

This.

The leap from gay marriage to beatiality or pedophilia is ridiculous. Animals and children can't give fucking consent...I don't see how this is so hard...