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Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« on: November 23, 2014, 08:35:10 AM »
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- Alright, well, it's about settled.  This team has regressed to a level I think we all hoped we'd never see at Auburn again. 

- We had to out-athlete Samford to win the ballgame.  Our offensive line was getting zero push.  Our defensive line was shoved around.  Our secondary still had issues covering receivers.  Nick Marshall looked like he really was a defensive back being asked to play quarterback.  Our receivers had too many drops.  The only player on our team that seemed to be at 100% was CAP. 

- Speaking of CAP, he's leading the SEC in rushing by a pretty wide margin.  Almost 300 yards more than #2. 

- I am pretty much in the JJ camp now.  Not necessarily because I think we need to look towards next year and not necessarily because I don't think Marshall can win games, but rather because the playbook opens up with JJ. 

- I can tell you the plays we are going to run over and over every game with Marshall in at QB: CAP up the middle, Louis around the edge, QB draw up the middle, read option, Marshall Scramble Throw it Deep.  That's really about it.  When Duke was healthy, you also had the Marshall Wait and Maybe Scramble Before Hitting Duke on a Deep Hitch.   

-  What was that play where we hit Roc Thomas running down field?  Where has that one been?  That was brilliant.  Or the short post route that we hit Wallace, a backup QB?  Or the fake the handoff and flip it to the receiver in the flat running with a full head of steam? 

- Yeah, there were drops.  But they were 2nd stringers. 

- It was also impressive - even if it was only three plays - how JJ timed the plays.  I think that was most impressive.  Instead of Marshall's staring, waiting, and launching, JJ looked like a NFL guy in the West Coast offense.  One-two-three-throw.  Maybe he was able to do that because it was late in the game and he didn't give a shit about where he was throwing.  Maybe.  But he looked fluid against Arkansas in the 1st half of the 1st game.

- I still think we can win with Marshall.  I do think Malzahn has been too conservative with play calling.  I don't understand why we told Marshall, especially this late in the year, to be the drop back passer.  He should be taking the snap, looking for his 1st or 2nd receiver, then scrambling to make a play.  We should be running the read option.  We should throw more screens.  Just my opinion.  I'm sure the coaches know something I don't.  But it's obvious that the offense has lost its spark. 

- If it's any consolation, Alabama looked like puke against Western Whatever. 

Missouri/Georgia

- Missouri has the same kind of gift-wrapped schedule that Alabama has.  They avoided Alabama, Auburn, and LSU.  Miss State and Ole Miss as well.  Not sure which was their toughest OOC game.  @Toledo or Central Florida at home.  Maybe the 3-win Indiana team who blew them out. 

- I'm not sure if I'm happy about Missouri winning the East again especially over Georgia or if I'm frustrated.  I think Alabama's going to win the Iron Bowl, and I think Georgia has the best chance of beating Alabama in the SECCG.  But then again, knowing that the leg humpers are sitting at home on December 6th is a good feeling too. 

Final Thought

- Looks like Belk Bowl vs. Clemson or Outback Bowl vs. Minnesota.  If we beat Alabama, I believe we slip into the Peach or Citrus.  Maybe against Michigan State in one and Wisconsin in the other. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2014, 12:02:09 PM »
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  I don't understand why we told Marshall, especially this late in the year, to be the drop back passer.  He should be taking the snap, looking for his 1st or 2nd receiver, then scrambling to make a play.  We should be running the read option.  We should throw more screens.  Just my opinion.  I'm sure the coaches know something I don't.  But it's obvious that the offense has lost its spark. 

Because NM stated he wanted to be a QB in the NFL, that's why.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/11/auburns_nick_marshall_wants_to.html
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 02:56:06 PM »
Marshall appears to be scared to throw the ball unless it's a screen or a bomb.  He lacks confidence with timing throws and it showed last night against fricking Samford.  I have been in the JJ camp all year, but was ok with Marshall while our run game was clicking.  Over the last 4 games run game has been hit or miss.  I believe our only shot in the Iron Bowl is to pass the ball.  Question is can we really start JJ in that game, against a solid defense, with the lack of playing time he has gotten this year?
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2014, 02:56:37 PM »
Missouri/Georgia
Not sure which was their toughest OOC game.  @Toledo or Central Florida at home.  Maybe the 3-win Indiana team who blew them out. 

Indiana beat Missouri in the 3rd game of the season 31-27. Hardly a blowout but live your dream.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2014, 03:43:14 PM »
Question is can we really start JJ in that game, against a solid defense, with the lack of playing time he has gotten this year?

Short answer is YES! The dude is tits on with his accuracy and release time. I still love the combination of JJ in the first half and then the let the dogs out in the second half as we did with Bulemia and crew.

ANOTHER Question: Will anyone catch what he throws????
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2014, 04:32:54 PM »
Indiana beat Missouri in the 3rd game of the season 31-27. Hardly a blowout but live your dream.

Oops.  Messed up the description of losing to one of the worst Big 10 teams at home. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2014, 06:12:23 PM »
Was told Gus was wearing a smile in his follow up comments but I just can't see how (if true) unless he is hiding this well or knows something no one else can see. We got pushed around in the first half. Unacceptable...at least it should be against a team located on Lakeshore Dr.
And I mean no disrespect to Coach Sullivan or Samford but watching that was close to punishment.

CAP runs hard but I sense that the rest of the offense is just going through the motions. This backward scrambling and hurling a ball into double coverage is mind boggling.
So now this team is about to roll into Tuscaloosa where they will have to play the game of their lives just to have a chance to win. I have actually seen some Auburn teams of the past that could pull it off but these were teams that made up with grit what they lacked in talent. And honestly, I don't have any idea how our team became so soft.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2014, 07:19:00 PM »
SMILE???  Hmmm. I wonder WTF he has planned for the turds?
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 08:37:45 AM »
Look I'm not saying we played an outstanding game, but a couple of things to add to this thread.

We appeared to sleep walk through most of the 1st quarter, after that it was pretty much all us.

Disagree with CAP appearing to be the only one playing 100%...Frost looked like he certainly gave a damn he was a beast out there.

Rumor has it that Kodi Burns was pretty much telling the defense what we were calling on offense throughout the first half.  Would explain some of the offensive woes in the beginning.

Being a Pat Sullivan coached team does, anyone really think we were going to demolish this team?  I don't...I don't think they were going to do that to Pat.  Honestly this game was never in any jeopardy.

I think the thing that was still most concerning to me was the penalties again.  Mincy had 45 yards in penalties alone.  Granted one of those PI calls wasn't a PI call but still penalties...penalties...penalties.  We cannot do that shit and expect to win at bammer.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 09:33:30 AM »
I was there.  The atmosphere was electric.  Samford traveled well and their fans were loud and rowdy.  Pretty much on the edge of your seat until midway through the 4th when you could finally breathe a little sigh of relief, knowing we had it under control.  I thought our guys showed a lot of heart out there in a game where we were grossly outmanned.  But determination and an incredibly innovative offensive scheme for this game were the differences.  Where in the world did that come from?  Right? 

I thought without Duke on the field, we really didn't stand a chance, but color me surprised.  Wow, this bunch never ceases to amaze me.  Looking forward to Saturday now.  I have a feeling Coach Saban spent some long hours in the film room after Saturday night.  War Eagle guys and let's beat the Tide. 
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2014, 10:00:10 AM »
I was there.  The atmosphere was electric.  Samford traveled well and their fans were loud and rowdy.  Pretty much on the edge of your seat until midway through the 4th when you could finally breathe a little sigh of relief, knowing we had it under control.  I thought our guys showed a lot of heart out there in a game where we were grossly outmanned.  But determination and an incredibly innovative offensive scheme for this game were the differences.  Where in the world did that come from?  Right? 

I thought without Duke on the field, we really didn't stand a chance, but color me surprised.  Wow, this bunch never ceases to amaze me.  Looking forward to Saturday now.  I have a feeling Coach Saban spent some long hours in the film room after Saturday night.  War Eagle guys and let's beat the Tide.

Pass me some of that shit. Cause it be good.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2014, 10:02:50 AM »
I'm sure that my fans on here are expecting both a break down of the Samford game and a "Rah Rah beat Bama" column from me this week, both full of valued insight and my usual wit. I'm trying to pack a weeks worth of my very important work into 2 days and thousands depend on me to get my job done, so I have to make this quick.

We sucked Saturday and Bama will beat us like a rented mule. Like a red headed step child. Like me using my martial arts on anyone on here.

Tear into us like a hobo into a bologna sandwich on Saturday, I'm pretty sure. Like a momma mountain lion on a baby goat. We will tote an old fashioned ass whooping.

Have a great week and Happy Thanksgiving.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2014, 10:40:28 AM »
Fuck all of this.

I am calling for the upset on Saturday. Alabama is beatable and Gus has Nick's number.
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2014, 10:43:34 AM »
fudge all of this.

I am calling for the upset on Saturday. Alabama is beatable and Gus has Nick's number.

I got a feeling, too.

And no, Nook, no Avatar bets.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2014, 10:44:08 AM »
Fuck all of this.

I am calling for the upset on Saturday. Alabama is beatable and Gus has Nick's number.

Well I should hope so.  He's his starting QB.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2014, 10:48:37 AM »
fudge all of this.

I am calling for the upset on Saturday. Alabama is beatable and Gus has Nick's number.

Not sure why, but I have a good feeling as well.  We are absolutely due to put it all together once more this season.
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2014, 11:00:37 AM »
There are more important things to be concerned with today. Get ready for the Ferguson decision and regardless of whether or not the dirty cop walks, get ready to throw rocks at the pigs and get you a new big screen.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2014, 11:02:24 AM »
Some observations of my own on Week Where's the Turkey?   

Those little sun dresses with the boots all the ladies wear at the games is such a sexy look.

They've fenced off the old Foy Union building to start some type of construction. Wonder if it's getting a facelift or they'll blow that sucker up and start over?

Hamilton's in downtown Auburn is the bomb.  Shrimp and grits after the game Saturday night.  Wow.

I think we gave up less than 250 total yards Saturday and only 7 points.  So.....yeah.

The play calling did seem very conservative and unimaginative.  Well, it didn't seem that way.  It was.  One thing people haven't taken into account is right after kick off, the rain started and it stayed steady for about 3/5ths or 71.6% of the game.  A buddy of mine said he watched it on TV and didn't know it rained at all.  It did.  A lot.

Auburn's basketball team scored 105 points Friday night.
 
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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2014, 11:08:05 AM »
Some observations of my own on Week Where's the Turkey?   

Those little sun dresses with the boots all the ladies wear at the games is such a sexy look.

They've fenced off the old Foy Union building to start some type of construction. Wonder if it's getting a facelift or they'll blow that sucker up and start over?

Hamilton's in downtown Auburn is the bomb.  Shrimp and grits after the game Saturday night.  Wow.

I think we gave up less than 250 total yards Saturday and only 7 points.  So.....yeah.

The play calling did seem very conservative and unimaginative.  Well, it didn't seem that way.  It was.  One thing people haven't taken into account is right after kick off, the rain started and it stayed steady for about 3/5ths or 71.6% of the game.  A buddy of mine said he watched it on TV and didn't know it rained at all.  It did.  A lot.

Auburn's basketball team scored 105 points Friday night.

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Re: Thoughts - Week Where's the Turkey?
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2014, 11:13:41 AM »
As far as having a good feeling about the Iron Bowl, I don't have any idea one way or another.  What I fully expect is for us to see what Gus Malzahn can be all about. Auburn has nothing to lose. We're decisive underdogs and no one expects much from us.  I imagine you'll see guys like Uzomah get more involved than they have all season.  There will be several, "Where the hell has that been all year?" moments.

Have no clue what the outcome will be but there will be no excuses if Gus doesn't do everything in his power to keep them off balance.  And if Duke is back and healthy, he needs to saddle that horse up and ride it like a porn star.
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