Mike Brown: Trayvon Part 2

[The Prowler]

"And to conclude the investigation, it turns out that Mike Brown was killed by a bow and arrow shot by a boy across the street.  Darren Wilson does not exist, and Ferguson is not even a city in the United States."

"...and Mike Brown had Marijuana in his system (regardless of the fact that it can stay in the system for up to 2 1/2 months after initial use)...which made him go crazy, see "Reefer Madness" to further understand the effects of Marjiuana."

[Vandy Vol]

"...and Mike Brown had Marijuana in his system (regardless of the fact that it can stay in the system for up to 2 1/2 months after initial use)...which made him go crazy, see "Reefer Madness" to further understand the effects of Marjiuana."

Reefer Madness will make you kill a guy with a trident. 

[The Prowler]

Reefer Madness will make you kill a guy with a trident.

See?!?!? Just watching someone smoke Marjiuana will make you want to kill...Thank goodness it's still a Schedule 1 drug, regardless of the fact that it has many medicinal purposes to help the citizens in need and the war on drugs continues to be an extremely costly ($4.5 BILLION since 1996 in equipment alone to local & State Police) mistake that literally ruins lives and families.

[GH2001]

The county hasn't released its autopsy report yet, but the autopsy report performed by a private party at the request of the family has been released.  According to that report, no gun powder residue was found on the body, suggesting that the shots were not fired within close range.  However, the report also indicates that the clothes were not tested for gun powder residue in that autopsy, probably because the county only allowed the doctor to view the body.

I still have no idea which "side" is correct in this case, but the facts that continue to come out seem to contradict both stories.  It'll be interesting to see what picture the total body of evidence paints.

Not close...point blank. Close is relative and subjective. Just sayin.

Not "close" doesnt mean 150 yards away either.

[Buzz Killington]

[AUJarhead]

Can Auburn win right away this year?

[smooth_operator]

pretty sure that pic ^ was debunked, but it is indeed true that stories, facts, photographs and quotes are usually picked to generate controversy (and the corresponding views/hits/ratings/$) rather than convey the truth of a situation. I find that intensely frustrating, particularly when that practice leads to further loss.

[Kaos]

pretty sure that pic ^ was debunked, but it is indeed true that stories, facts, photographs and quotes are usually picked to generate controversy (and the corresponding views/hits/ratings/$) rather than convey the truth of a situation. I find that intensely frustrating, particularly when that practice leads to further loss.

I've never read anything where I didn't understand a single syllable of what I just read. 

Congratulations on letting me check another item off my bucket list. 

[smooth_operator]

I've never read anything where I didn't understand a single syllable of what I just read. 

Congratulations on letting me check another item off my bucket list.

Ever read the first half of the sound and the fury?

Sorry for the confusing post. Should I go back and edit it so it is more easily understood or leave it, as a monument to confusion and chaos... Kaos?

[AUChizad]

I've never read anything where I didn't understand a single syllable of what I just read. 

Congratulations on letting me check another item off my bucket list. 

Irrelevant:

Yep, it is.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/19/mike-brown-being-misidentified-on-social-media/14273807/

Mike Brown being misidentified on social media

[Vandy Vol]

Not close...point blank. Close is relative and subjective. Just sayin.

Not "close" doesnt mean 150 yards away either.

I have no clue if the autopsy report used the term "close range;" that was my word choice.  And I doubt the autopsy report would speculate as to how close the shots were fired, as that's something I assume a ballistics expert would determine.  I'm just going by what an article said in relation to there being no gun powder residue on the body.  Gun powder residue would be present if the weapon were fired "close" to the person.  How close?  I don't know, but if the officer is claiming that it was "point blank" range, then I would imagine gun powder residue should be there.

But, at this point in time, we also don't know whether there was any residue on the clothes, so that's something else to consider.

[Kaos]

Ever read the first half of the sound and the fury?

Sorry for the confusing post. Should I go back and edit it so it is more easily understood or leave it, as a monument to confusion and chaos... Kaos?

Leave it. It's beautifully written, I just didn't understand a word of it, Chizad's big red arrow notwithstanding. 

[DnATL]

That's the M-Team a-Team

fixt

[CCTAU]

I have no clue if the autopsy report used the term "close range;" that was my word choice.  And I doubt the autopsy report would speculate as to how close the shots were fired, as that's something I assume a ballistics expert would determine.  I'm just going by what an article said in relation to there being no gun powder residue on the body.  Gun powder residue would be present if the weapon were fired "close" to the person.  How close?  I don't know, but if the officer is claiming that it was "point blank" range, then I would imagine gun powder residue should be there.

But, at this point in time, we also don't know whether there was any residue on the clothes, so that's something else to consider.

Depth perception is a bit skewed when one of your effing eyeballs is pushed back into your effing skull!

[WiregrassTiger]

FYI: If I am doing my job and have not physically assaulted anyone and they break my eye socket; and I have a gun on me, I can assure you that I will shoot as many bullets as I have in the gun in the general vicinity of said person. I don't care if it's someone one here, someone who is black, white, cablanasian or Peruvian. If I am conscious, my bullets are coming your way. And they will be toward your ass, if you are running.

Carry on.

[AUChizad]

FYI: If I am doing my job and have not physically assaulted anyone and they break my eye socket; and I have a gun on me, I can assure you that I will shoot as many bullets as I have in the gun in the general vicinity of said person. I don't care if it's someone one here, someone who is black, white, cablanasian or Peruvian. If I am conscious, my bullets are coming your way. And they will be toward your ass, if you are running.

Carry on.

Doesn't look too beat up to me as he casually strolls around Mike Brown's dead body.



I still maintain that this case is one cluster-fuck of bad on top of bad on top of bad. Brown himself, the officer, the police precinct as a whole, the community's response, the government. The cover-ups, the overreach, the convoluted ever-shifting alibis on both sides.

Plenty of disgust to be spread around.

[WiregrassTiger]

Yeah, I saw this. When she said that it looked like the officer was trying to pull Brown into the car and that from her point of view she couldn't tell exactly what was going on , I pretty much discredited everything else she had to say.

She couldn't tell exactly what was going on but she thought that the officer was trying to pull a 300 pound man into the police car. o.k., right.

I don't disagree that most everything was handled poorly but I definitely don't see Brown for the mistreated victim that is portrayed.

All I'm saying is that if Brown truly did try to get the officer's gun and break his eye socket--then all bets are off as far as I'm concerned. I really don't care what the officer did after that, whether it's legal or not. I just hope he doesn't go to prison.

[smooth_operator]

Doesn't look too beat up to me as he casually strolls around Mike Brown's dead body.



I still maintain that this case is one cluster-fudge of bad on top of bad on top of bad. Brown himself, the officer, the police precinct as a whole, the community's response, the government. The cover-ups, the overreach, the convoluted ever-shifting alibis on both sides. The incredible media whoring that generates controversy for money rather than uniting the country in search of truth and understanding.

Plenty of disgust to be spread around.

FIFY

[AUChizad]

FIFY

Yup. Forgot that one.

[Vandy Vol]

Depth perception is a bit skewed when one of your effing eyeballs is pushed back into your effing skull!

If you're claiming to have shot the guy while he's on top of you, I don't think you need your sight to know he's on top of you.

Keep in mind that I'm not stating that Brown was in the right, or that the witnesses' stories that support Brown are correct.  I'm merely pointing out that the evidence that comes out keeps contradicting both stories to some degree.

And again, there's always the chance that the clothing has gun powder residue.

I think it's still too early in the investigation to adamantly support either side.