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Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban

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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2014, 04:32:54 PM »
Yes it legitimizes one more game (plus the championship so I guess two more games) but still funnels the purpose of the season into one bottle - the college football playoff. 

Now there are LESS tie-ins to bowl games.  Less rivalries between conferences.  Less reason to showcase skills on television in January.  Unless you're looking at the four teams in the playoff.

Sure, it's great for TV, determining the one true champion, and putting more emphasis on professionalism in college sports.  But as for pageantry, rivalry, and tradition?  It sucks.

I'm one that wants to go back to before the BCS and have polls and have two or three champions and not wonder if Alabama lost to Oklahoma because they had no reason to care (they did, it's the SEC's flagship bowl game and they should want to win it for conference pride).  I want to watch the Rose Bowl and think it's the grandaddy of them all with two conferences engaging in football competition that started decades ago.  I want to see Peach, Citrus, and Gator in front of the word "Bowl" and not "Meineke Car Care Bowl" and "Insight.com Bowl" and whatever other corporate sponsor has taken over.

That's just me though.
As to your larger point, no. Just no.

There should be a true champion, just like every other sport. Fuck letting Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and whoever else lay claim to it cuz by-God they think they're the best.

As for what is in bold, that's exactly what I'm trying to convey to Godfather. What purpose did the Cactus Bowl serve before the BCS that it isn't serving now? It wasn't crowning shit. At no point in time did any more than 4 bowls mean jack shit.

Except of course the team's and fan's own pride. Which I'd argue is what college football in general is for. If an SEC team is mathematically eliminated from Atlanta by the last week of the year, they should just not give a shit? College football as an entire organization doesn't exist because we all really want to see to it that Bob Stoops or Nick Saban or Urban Meyer or Les Miles or Gus Malzahn or who ever can buy yachts.

It's just an asinine thing to say.

If nothing else, the bowl game matters because now Bama is 0-2 in their last two games and the college football world is starting to see the cracks in the armor. It showed that Bama has serious trouble playing against a spread offense. The very fact that we're having this conversation is why it matters. Nothing about it is good.
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2014, 04:49:23 PM »
As to your larger point, no. Just no.

There should be a true champion, just like every other sport. Fuck letting Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and whoever else lay claim to it cuz by-God they think they're the best.



It's still not a true champion.  Never will be unless you use a committee to create a large tournament that becomes half the season or have a defined list of requirements to become a champion like the NFL, NBA and MLB.  At this point, it's just a few people in a room with pens and paper shooting bullshit until they come out with four teams.  No different than the BCS.  We just at least get four teams in, which if you're wanting change to come to college football is a start.
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2014, 04:54:59 PM »
Never will be unless you use a committee to create a large tournament that becomes half the season

Division II has done it for decades without all of that. Granted, it's five rounds long so that wouldn't be prudent in major CFB but there's nothing stopping an 8 team playoff from happening soon other than fat cats raking in cash and hiding behind "missing too many classes" of some other bullshit excuse.
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2014, 05:27:29 PM »
Go back to the BCS formula to rank the teams and take the top 8 at the end of the season and play it off.  Require a conference championship game for everyone or do away with it entirely.  Simple.  Make it happen.  But, since we're under this 4 team scenario for the next 12 years or so...
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2014, 06:24:08 PM »
Go back to the BCS formula to rank the teams and take the top 8 at the end of the season and play it off.  Require a conference championship game for everyone or do away with it entirely.  Simple.  Make it happen.  But, since we're under this 4 team scenario for the next 12 years or so...
I like...and we are still dependent on pre-season polls. Drop a game if need be should we go to 8 teams.
Want to discuss more opportunity for injury?-This is it, not a team running at a faster pace.
The committee might be hung up with taking only conference champions. And if that is the case the Bammers might not like this set-up so much as several longtime fans I have spoken were proud of the fact that they could be Nat'l Champions without being the SEC Champ. 
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2014, 06:37:29 PM »
They didn't want it anyway.
They made their own asses quit
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2014, 09:09:17 AM »
They made their own asses quit

Processing oneself.  How forward thinking!
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2014, 09:38:01 AM »
Processing oneself.  How forward thinking!

None of them were on the Sugar Bowl roster anyway
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Re: Sugar Bowl was beneath Saban
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2014, 07:29:12 AM »
Players emulate their coaches, be that their position coach or head coach.
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