More of St. Saban's Compassion

AUChizad · « **on:** April 04, 2014, 10:08:11 AM »

http://deadspin.com/brendon-ayanbadejo-implies-miami-traded-him-for-taking-1558135899

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Brendon Ayanbadejo Implies Miami Traded Him For Taking Paternity Leave

Brendon Ayanbadejo Implies Miami Traded Him For Taking Paternity Leave
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The fuss about Daniel Murphy missing two games to be there for the birth of his son seemed like a total nontroversyâ€”the Mets were OK with it, and their fans were OK with it. (Seriously. It's two games. And Daniel Murphy. And the 2014 Mets.) The only people upset were New York radio hosts. But the debate on taking paternity leave is a very real one for athletes, with very real consequences.

Writing for Fox Sports, former NFLer Brendon Ayanbadejo recalls the circumstances surrounding the birth of his daughter in August 2005, when he was in Dolphins training camp. Ayanbadejo says his wife was bedridden after a C-section, so this wasn't just about being there for the birth, but about being there for his wife.

Nick Saban, in his first year as Miami head coach, wasn't happy that Ayanbadejo wanted to take some time.

Dutifully, I let Nick Saban, my coach at the time, know we were expecting.

He made it clear that he expected me to be around and not miss any practice for this special moment for my family. I made it clear that I was going to miss as much time as it took for me to be there in support of my wife and my newborn child.

Ayanbadejo says he missed one full day of practice, and came in late a few morningsâ€”a grand total of 36 hours off. Five days after the birth of his daughter Anaya, the Dolphins shipped him to the Bears. Ayanbadejo had led Miami in special teams tackles the previous two seasons, and in return they got a tight end who never played a snap for them.

Was Ayanbadejo traded because he had chosen his family over a few days of practice, or for more anodyne football reasons? He doesn't know for sure, but it's pretty clear what he believes.

Did Saban ship me off because I put my family before football? Did the team question my desire to be a Dolphin because of my life priorities?
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[D]espite the fact that I do believe that the Dolphins â€” or certainly Saban at least â€” questioned my desire to be a Dolphin due to the priority I placed on family, family always has and always will come first.

Attitudes have presumably changed since 2005, and most coaches aren't Nick Saban, treating grown-ass men like the college kids he was used to. But there will always be inherent tensions when athletes take family leave for an event that (to an extent) can be planned, in a job that has a well-defined offseason.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2014, 10:31:45 AM »

Why do you hate Saban?

Godfather · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2014, 11:09:23 AM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on April 04, 2014, 10:31:45 AM

Why do you hate Saban?

Why do you hate the devil?

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2014, 11:59:37 AM »

All stuff about Saban aside, I have some issue with this paternity leave for men deal. Sure, I think that the Dad should be there when the baby is born. And if there is any serious problems, he should be there. But just to be there to put a pillow under the baby mamma back isn't a good reason.

I'm a little suspicious as to why this guy had to be late to the team meetings. I understand if he was out for 24 the day that the baby was born, if that's the way it went down but why days after? NFL players make enough money to hire someone to help out.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2014, 12:07:17 PM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on April 04, 2014, 11:59:37 AM

All stuff about Saban aside, I have some issue with this paternity leave for men deal. Sure, I think that the Dad should be there when the baby is born. And if there is any serious problems, he should be there. But just to be there to put a pillow under the baby mamma back isn't a good reason.

I'm a little suspicious as to why this guy had to be late to the team meetings. I understand if he was out for 24 the day that the baby was born, if that's the way it went down but why days after? NFL players make enough money to hire someone to help out.

Typical Lord Saybinz apologist.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2014, 12:10:18 PM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on April 04, 2014, 12:07:17 PM

Typical Lord Saybinz apologist.

My crush on him has nothing to do with this. Bitch.

AUChizad · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2014, 12:44:59 PM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on April 04, 2014, 11:59:37 AM

All stuff about Saban aside, I have some issue with this paternity leave for men deal. Sure, I think that the Dad should be there when the baby is born. And if there is any serious problems, he should be there. But just to be there to put a pillow under the baby mamma back isn't a good reason.

I'm a little suspicious as to why this guy had to be late to the team meetings. I understand if he was out for 24 the day that the baby was born, if that's the way it went down but why days after? NFL players make enough money to hire someone to help out.

First of all, they offer official paternal leave for 3 days. This (Mets) dude took 2. How this is a controversy is beyond me. Literally every father in the MLB takes those days when they have a kid. As well they should be able to see their family for a whole goddamn day or 2 or 3 after the birth of their child. What most people don't realize is these dudes don't see their families AT ALL, weekends or otherwise, for the entirety of the season, which for baseball is about 7 months a year. 162 games plus spring training.

Pretty insane that anyone would take issue for a guy seeing the birth of his child, and possibly hanging out for a day or two while family, etc. visits. Because it's so important not to miss a couple of days on their life or death super important job of playing a game for one or two of their 162 games a season.

In the case of the Dolphins guy it was missing a practice & was a little late a couple of the following days for a total of 36 hours.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2014, 12:55:31 PM »

Professional ball players are so selfish.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2014, 01:19:05 PM »

Quote from: AUChizad on April 04, 2014, 12:44:59 PM

First of all, they offer official paternal leave for 3 days. This (Mets) dude took 2. How this is a controversy is beyond me. Literally every father in the MLB takes those days when they have a kid. As well they should be able to see their family for a whole goddamn day or 2 or 3 after the birth of their child. What most people don't realize is these dudes don't see their families AT ALL, weekends or otherwise, for the entirety of the season, which for baseball is about 7 months a year. 162 games plus spring training.

Pretty insane that anyone would take issue for a guy seeing the birth of his child, and possibly hanging out for a day or two while family, etc. visits. Because it's so important not to miss a couple of days on their life or death super important job of playing a game for one or two of their 162 games a season.

In the case of the Dolphins guy it was missing a practice & was a little late a couple of the following days for a total of 36 hours.

You have no freaking idea about what you are talking about. Again. Seriously. Come on.

We are not just talking about a "game". We are talking about a business. And it's serious business even though people think it's a game. And we're not just talking about practice because practice is what you do for a game. And this game is big business. Practice makes perfect.

And I don't appreciate the language and tone that you use. I know what the fuck I am talking about. You think I just come on here and spout off shit without knowing what I'm talking about. I know about a lot of stuff. And I know all about professional athletics and how it pertains to paternity leave. You can't tell me anything because I know more than you. I know that you have problems with me because of how much I know. And likely you are jealous of me. And you are a racist.

Firstly, you used firstly and never followed it up with secondly, so why the fuck did you need to use numerical order if you didn't have anything else to go with the lame shit you put up in the first place?

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2014, 01:41:47 PM »

As one who not only possess a uterus, but used it twice for the purpose for which God intended, and had a C-section both times...

You are not allowed out of bed for 24 hours following said C-section, which is major surgery. You can't move, bend or twist at the waist, raise your knees or shift in any position without pain. Mandatory 48-72 hour hospital stay following. And even when you are allowed to get up, trying to move with stitched together abdominal muscles is a fucking bitch. You damn right that I wanted the man who was a contributor to my condition to be present to assist me. Nurses cannot be there 24 - 7, and even if we could have afforded a private nurse, I wanted my husband. And he needed to have some bonding time with the baby too.

Not only is the mom trying to recover fror the birth and the damage it does to her body, she is trying to recover while dealing with the insane demands of a newborn. Any and all assistance is appreciated. But it's not just an adjustment in mom's life - the dad's life has changed irrevocably too. So fuck Saban and to hell with anyone who doesn't think dads deserve to have a few days to get acquainted with their new baby. I don't care who you are and how much money you make. It's his child too.

dallaswareagle · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2014, 02:15:05 PM »

Quote from: Tiger Wench on April 04, 2014, 01:41:47 PM

As one who not only possess a uterus, but used it twice for the purpose for which God intended, and had a C-section both times...

You are not allowed out of bed for 24 hours following said C-section, which is major surgery. You can't move, bend or twist at the waist, raise your knees or shift in any position without pain. Mandatory 48-72 hour hospital stay following. And even when you are allowed to get up, trying to move with stitched together abdominal muscles is a fucking bitch. You damn right that I wanted the man who was a contributor to my condition to be present to assist me. Nurses cannot be there 24 - 7, and even if we could have afforded a private nurse, I wanted my husband. And he needed to have some bonding time with the baby too.

Not only is the mom trying to recover fror the birth and the damage it does to her body, she is trying to recover while dealing with the insane demands of a newborn. Any and all assistance is appreciated. But it's not just an adjustment in mom's life - the dad's life has changed irrevocably too. So fuck Saban and to hell with anyone who doesn't think dads deserve to have a few days to get acquainted with their new baby. I don't care who you are and how much money you make. It's his child too.

This caused your problem is the first place.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #11 on:** April 04, 2014, 02:17:58 PM »

When my maw maw had my diddy, she went over to the edge of the field, squatted down for a couple of minutes and then went back to picking cotton.

Women are spoiled now-a-days.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #12 on:** April 04, 2014, 02:40:48 PM »

Quote from: WiregrassTiger on April 04, 2014, 02:17:58 PM

When my maw maw had my diddy, she went over to the edge of the field, squatted down for a couple of minutes and then went back to picking cotton.

Women are spoiled now-a-days.

It's a uterus thing.