Missouri DE Michael Sam Announces He is Gay

[jmar]

So much potential, but it was wasted.  I was for sure it would easily be at 6 pages.   

Yes we had the hardliners jousting and a healthy dose of the hecklers ta boot...but it wasn't to be.

[Tiger Wench]

Didn't say it could be cured today.  Cancer can't be cured today.  So we stop looking for ways to cure it? 

Listen to your argument and we've all still got polio and smallpox. 

But aren't we actively searching for ways to cure other genetic defects?  Do we just accept that down syndrome is natural since it is built into the DNA?  What about tay-sachs? Sickle cell? Cystic Fibrosis?  Alcoholism?

All genetic.  And we're actively looking for a cure.  If we agree that there is a genetic cause for this perversion of nature, why aren't we trying to find a way to cure it? 

Talk about willfully ignorant.

Polio and smallpox are diseases.  They may be viral or bacterial, but diseases are introduced into a human body.  They are not intrinsically combined with the basic building blocks of life at the time of conception.  Thus they can be isolated and killed, thereby curing the host body.

Cures are being sought for genetic diseases that actually affect the ability of the human body to perform under normal parameters. Downs' syndrome, Sickle cell anemia, CF - all shorten the life span of the genetically altered human body and in many cases cause an extreme disruption in the quality of life for that person. 

There should be no reputable research into how to "cure" homosexuaity any more than there should be research into how to cure blondes with blue eyes.  Being gay does not necessarily cause a disruption in someone's life.  It doesn't have to shorten anyone's lifespan.  The associated lifestyle used to expose the human body to diseases that straight humans don't get, but even that argument is not very valid anymore, since these days the number of straight people who get AIDS through iv drug use is greater than the number of people who get it through gay sex. 

And again, even if you were able to unwind the gay gene from the rest of the genetic thread, I don't know too many gay folks who would opt out.  Not everyone sees it as a curse just because you do.  Biracial marriage was though of as deviant in some circles in the not so distant past, and still is in many quarters.  But it isn't.  Women have had behavior such as working outside the home lableled as deviant in the past, but I can't see any rational person making that argument now.

Still a willfully ignorant response.  And you knew you were on shaky ground when you wrote it. 

[Vandy Vol]

If you can't see how queerness violates the laws of nature I can't help you at all.    You probably use your screwdriver as a hammer, your wrench as a floor jack and your saw as a ladder.  You don't know what your tools are for.

If I want to hammer at a nail with cooked spaghetti, that's my business.  Just because your goal is to put the nail in the wood doesn't mean it has to be mine or anyone else's.

But if we're going to talk about what "tools" are "supposed" to be used for, then why allow condoms?  Vasectomies?  Oral sex and anal sex between heterosexuals?  By God, nature intended for these tools to be used a certain way, and it violates the laws of nature to do otherwise!

[Townhallsavoy]

If I want to hammer at a nail with cooked spaghetti, that's my business.  Just because your goal is to put the nail in the wood doesn't mean it has to be mine or anyone else's.

But if we're going to talk about what "tools" are "supposed" to be used for, then why allow condoms?  Vasectomies?  Oral sex and anal sex between heterosexuals?  By God, nature intended for these tools to be used a certain way, and it violates the laws of nature to do otherwise!

And what'd the deal with this beds meant for co-sleeping?  Men and women should be separate by God!

[DnATL]

In celebration of this accomplishment, Missouri is changing their motto from the "Show Me State" to the "Blow Me State".  No longer will Americans pass through St Louis to "Go west, young man", it will now be through Columbia to "go down, young man".  Route 66 will be renamed the Hershey Highway.  Missouri will next contribute to Americana with Mark Taint's "The Adventures of Fuck Him" and "Tom Sawyerjunkandlikedit"

[Pell City Tiger]

For fucks sake, we're 5 pages into this discussion and no one has asked the most obvious question: Which team has him at the top of their draft board; the Packers, Rams, or Browns?

[RWS]

Mr. Garrison doth protest a bit too much.....especially for a guy that wears makeup.


Just sayin.....

[Yoda]

I'm gay, anyone here have a problem with it?

I fucking knew it.

[CCTAU]

If I want to hammer at a nail with cooked spaghetti, that's my business.  Just because your goal is to put the nail in the wood doesn't mean it has to be mine or anyone else's.

I don't really give a rats ass what you decide to hammer with. Just don't try to convince me it is a hammer if it is not.

Gay is a choice. No proof it is not.

And if the THEORY of evolution is true, why is it still called a theory?

[Kaos]

You can't have your dick and eat it too.

Don't tell me it's a personal choice and people can do what they want in private and in the next breath laud somebody for "coming out" and call them courageous for talking publicly about this thing that was supposed to be private.

Tell yourself whatever you have to in order to console yourself and feel "enlightened."  Fact remains that gayness is a deviation from the norm. It's a perversion of the natural order. It's sick. It's not something to be celebrated, honored, applauded, accepted or promoted.

It should be recognized as abhorrent. We should be looking for the cause and trying to find ways to eliminate it just like we would any other disease or defect.

If this guy thinks it's okay to put his pecker in another dude's butt and he can find another dude willing to engage in that perversion in private then that's fine.  Same with RWS and his goats. Same with people whose wives let them spunk on their feet or in their hair. Same for dudes who can only get happy wearing a diaper or a coonskin cap.  It becomes my problem and my business when those people feel the need to talk openly about it and demand equal rights for coonskin cap wearers.

I win

[AUChizad]

I don't really give a rats ass what you decide to hammer with. Just don't try to convince me it is a hammer if it is not.

Gay is a choice. No proof it is not.

And if the THEORY of evolution is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the THEORY of gravitation is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the THEORY of plate tectonics is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the THEORY of nuclear fusion is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the germ THEORY of disease is true, why is it still called a theory?

This is epically, epically dumb. That single sentence may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the Internet. It is ridiculous to even entertain continuing a scientific discussion with a person who doesn't know the meaning of the word "theory". Sorry if that makes me "intolerant."


And another thing? As I've alluded to, homosexually being a "choice" is only even imaginable to a person who himself made a conscious "choice" to be straight. As if it's 50/50.

"I could either have sex with women, get married, have a family, live a relatively socially acceptable and easy life, OR I could CHOOSE to only suck dick and get buttfucked until my dying day. It's really a toss-up, but I'm gonna go with the sex with women thing, because Jesus prefers that one."

If that makes sense to you, guess what? You're gay.

[Ogre]

I'd like to get back to blowing GF and Buzz because I'm gay and a smelly pirate hooker.

[CCTAU]

If the THEORY of gravitation is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the THEORY of plate tectonics is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the THEORY of nuclear fusion is true, why is it still called a theory?

If the germ THEORY of disease is true, why is it still called a theory?

This is epically, epically dumb. That single sentence may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the Internet. It is ridiculous to even entertain continuing a scientific discussion with a person who doesn't know the meaning of the word "theory". Sorry if that makes me "intolerant."


And another thing? As I've alluded to, homosexually being a "choice" is only even imaginable to a person who himself made a conscious "choice" to be straight. As if it's 50/50.

"I could either have sex with women, get married, have a family, live a relatively socially acceptable and easy life, OR I could CHOOSE to only suck dick and get buttfucked until my dying day. It's really a toss-up, but I'm gonna go with the sex with women thing, because Jesus prefers that one."

If that makes sense to you, guess what? You're gay.

If it is true, there is a proof attached to it. No proof has been attached to the THEORY of evolution. Your examples are shit dropped in an outhouse. When you find the MISSING LINK, let us know ans we can positively teach EVOLUTION as the truth. Until then, the belief in evolution takes faith. Oh. guess what else takes faith?

You have over-educated yourself to the point in which you are fabricating truths, yet you know not the truth.

PROVE the THEORY and then we can talk. Till then, you are just another anti-religion moron on a mission to enlighten the poor misguided ignants.

Oh. And gay is a sinful choice!

[AUChizad]

If it is true, there is a proof attached to it. No proof has been attached to the THEORY of evolution. Your examples are shit dropped in an outhouse. When you find the MISSING LINK, let us know ans we can positively teach EVOLUTION as the truth. Until then, the belief in evolution takes faith. Oh. guess what else takes faith?

[CCTAU]

Still no missing link. Only and educated guess as to what happened during that time that there is no evidence. You do know what an educated guess is right? Not proof.

See. You want to put me into a category of intolerance, yet you show no tolerance yourself on this subject. I have no problem with teaching the THEORY of evolution as long as you do not teach it as absolute truth AND you allow for the teaching of creationism also. Since neither one has been proven true or false, they are both valid options. Let students choose there own path.

But being a product of the liberal education system, you have been pushed, erroneously, toward believing that evolution is truth, when in fact it is not. Don't force your intolerant views on the masses.


Crap. i almost forgot. Gay is a sinful choice!
 

[Townhallsavoy]

You can't have your dick and eat it too.

Don't tell me it's a personal choice and people can do what they want in private and in the next breath laud somebody for "coming out" and call them courageous for talking publicly about this thing that was supposed to be private.

White girls can marry and procreate with black guys.  It's a private matter.  But at one point in time, it was courageous for participating in that type of relationship out in the open.  People gave them a hard time.  Some people said it was unnatural.  Some said it was unholy.  That God never meant for races to mix.  Some ridiculed them.  Some even physically harmed them.

The fact is - interracial couples were taking a risk by admitting to and publicly participating in such a relationship.  It's the exact same story today with gay people. 

Tell yourself whatever you have to in order to console yourself and feel "enlightened."  Fact remains that gayness is a deviation from the norm. It's a perversion of the natural order. It's sick. It's not something to be celebrated, honored, applauded, accepted or promoted.

It should be recognized as abhorrent. We should be looking for the cause and trying to find ways to eliminate it just like we would any other disease or defect.

Sieg heil!

If this guy thinks it's okay to put his pecker in another dude's butt and he can find another dude willing to engage in that perversion in private then that's fine.  Same with RWS and his goats. Same with people whose wives let them spunk on their feet or in their hair. Same for dudes who can only get happy wearing a diaper or a coonskin cap.  It becomes my problem and my business when those people feel the need to talk openly about it and demand equal rights for coonskin cap wearers.

I win

Those equal rights are being demanded solely for what goes on in their private homes.  Not all of them are running around in S&M outfits and sucking dick in public.  The majority of them are just sitting at home enjoying 99% of the things you and I enjoy.  It just so happens that they feel attracted to a member of the same sex and have found someone who reciprocates that attraction. 

I could turn on NFL Network today and see a player being interviewed.  The journalist could ask, "What're your plans for this offseason?"  He could say, "My girlfriend and I decided got married last week, and in a few weeks, we're going to spend a few hundred thousands dollars on a honeymoon in some exotic third world country that has a few pristine places to cater to our wants and desires." 

No one would bat an eye. 

Turn on NFL Network and they ask a different player the same question.  He says, "Well, my partner and I got married last week, and we plan on spending out honeymoon volunteering in a third world country who needs a lot of help."

And there would be a large portion of America's population that would kill the guy if they could get away with it.

[AUChizad]

Still no missing link. Only and educated guess as to what happened during that time that there is no evidence. You do know what an educated guess is right? Not proof.

See. You want to put me into a category of intolerance, yet you show no tolerance yourself on this subject. I have no problem with teaching the THEORY of evolution as long as you do not teach it as absolute truth AND you allow for the teaching of creationism also. Since neither one has been proven true or false, they are both valid options. Let students choose there own path.

But being a product of the liberal education system, you have been pushed, erroneously, toward believing that evolution is truth, when in fact it is not. Don't force your intolerant views on the masses.


Crap. i almost forgot. Gay is a sinful choice!

I keep wanting to ignore your complete mongoloid ignorance, but I keep getting drawn back in.

Evolution is a theory. In scientific terms, it is a fact.

Creationism is not a scientific theory. It is a "theory" as you understand the word, which is a wild-assed guess with zero evidence, zero scientific data to support it.

They are not on equal footing.

"Theories" 101, since you still fail to understand.

http://www.notjustatheory.com/

You've been told that "evolution is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about evolution. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument.

The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use. That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in evolution because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.

In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations. It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.

Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.

This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.

Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.

Evolution is the same. There's the fact of evolution. Evolution (genetic change over generations) happens, just like gravity does. Don't take my word for it. Ask your science teacher, or google it. But that's not the issue we are addressing here. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant observations.

Next time someone tries to tell you that evolution is just a theory, as a way of dismissing it, as if it's just something someone guessed at, remember that they're using the non-scientific meaning of the word. If that person is a teacher, or minister, or some other figure of authority, they should know better. In fact, they probably do, and are trying to mislead you.

Evolution is not just a theory, it's triumphantly a theory!

[Godfather]

Turn on NFL Network and they ask a different player the same question.  He says, "Well, my partner and I got married last week, and we plan on spending out honeymoon volunteering in a third world country who needs a lot of help."

And there would be a large portion of America's population that would kill the guy if they could get away with it.

I fucking would, what the hell are they doing volunteering somewhere else when we need help right here at home. 

Especially with disposal of teh gays.

[Godfather]

For fucks sake, we're 5 pages into this discussion and no one has asked the most obvious question: Which team has him at the top of their draft board; the Packers, Rams, or Browns?

Probably the Dolphins.

[WiregrassTiger]

I keep wanting to ignore your complete mongoloid ignorance, but I keep getting drawn back in.

Evolution is a theory. In scientific terms, it is a fact.

Creationism is not a scientific theory. It is a "theory" as you understand the word, which is a wild-assed guess with zero evidence, zero scientific data to support it.

They are not on equal footing.

"Theories" 101, since you still fail to understand.

http://www.notjustatheory.com/

So, are you saying that if I theorize that you lick balls, it is so?