Ok so Super Bowl rings do matter than? Because a few threads back you dismissed someone else's choices because they had a bunch of Super Bowl rings but those don't matter.
I'm just trying to figure out what we are gaging legacy by.
He has more rings than Marino, who you wouldn't lump him in with.
BTW I am a huge Marino fan. Peyton is and deserves to be in the discussion of greatest ever NFL QB (at this point)
I don't know. The eye test I guess.
Super Bowl rings matter to an extent, but so does choking when it matters. Before this season he was 9-11 in playoff games. He'd thrown for 32 TDs but also had 21 picks in the playoffs.
He could have sent Ray Lewis out last year with a big fat L on his murdering resume, but he choked and threw a Tony Romo pick deep in Raven territory that killed a drive and let Baltimore come back and win.
He's just never done that much for me. Always seemed like a regular season guy who pffftt'ed at critical times.
You've got people like Big Papi -- love Big Papi -- who turn it on in the post-season. I don't care what he does in the regular season, I want him in the lineup when the playoffs begin. And then there are guys like Andruw Jones who tear it up during the season but fade in the playoffs. Jones was something like 1-17 in the 2003 playoffs for Atlanta.
Peyton's always been that to me. A good regular season guy, but not the player I want when my team is in the playoffs. Regular season stats are great. But how do you play when marbles are at stake?
Give me warriors like Favre and Montana. Heck, even Drunken Stabler, Goofy Bradshaw or Steve Young.
I'm sure Peyton will get in the HoF. I'll yawn when it happens. Don't misunderstand, I like the guy. Had the chance to talk to him after the Vols beat the Turds at Legion and he led the band. Nice guy. Came away impressed. But greatest of all time? There's a big line ahead of him IMO. Not sure he can see the front from where he stands.