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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2013, 08:41:49 PM »
I'm fine with almost anything (ok 8 is better) but absolutely NO WILD CARD ANYTHING!
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2013, 08:52:20 PM »
And I'd say again, if you aren't putting the best 4 teams in the playoff, then what is the point? Other than pacifying conferences like the Big 10 that play average-good football, but not great.  In reality, you'd be better off going back to pre BCS and letting the bowls pick who they want.
This logic is as sound as saying that in the above scenario, if Wisconsin beat LSU or Oregon beats Oklahoma State, you're not allowing the "best two teams" to play. By advancing in the playoff, they prove they are the better team. What are we having playoffs for if we're going to leave it up to pure subjective bullshit?

The way conferences, at least the SEC, crown their champion is the most objective, fair, and precise scale of who the better team is in college football. Everyone in each division plays each other - first six round of the playoffs. Whoever has the best head-to-head record is the best team in their division. Empirically. The proven best teams of each division, then play each other to prove who is the best in the entire conference. Advancing in the first single elimination round to the final four.

If this isn't completely rational and logical to you, you either lack the ability to think logically, or you're a Bammer that has convinced yourself beyond any doubt that it was your earned your spot I the 2011 national championship. Hint: You didn't.

Yes, you destroyed them in that game. The same way Utah destroyed you when you were disappointed in the lowly opponent in the Sugar Bowl  a few years before that, and we're clearly unprepared.
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2013, 09:28:34 PM »
In reality, you'd be better off going back to pre BCS and letting the bowls pick who they want.

And that's exactly what I want.
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2013, 09:46:17 PM »
This logic is as sound as saying if in the above scenario, if Wisconsin beat LSU or Oregon beats Oklahoma State, you're not allowing the "best two teams" play. By advancing in the playoff, they prove they are the better team. What are we having playoffs for if we're going to leave it up to pure subjective bullshit?

The way conferences, at least the SEC, is crowned is the most objective, fair, and precise scale of who the better team is. Everyone in each division plays each other - first six round of the playoffs. Whoever has the best head-to-head record is the best team in their division. Empirically. The proven best teams of each division, then play each other to prove who is the best in the entire conference. Advancing in the first single elimination round to the final four.

If this isn't completely rational and logical to you, you either lack the ability to think logically, or you're a Bammer that has convinced yourself beyond any doubt that it was your earned your spot I the 2011 national championship. Hint: You didn't.

Yes, you destroyed them in that game. The same way Utah destroyed you when you were disappointed in the lowly opponent in the Sugar Bowl  a few years before that, and we're clearly unprepared.

Which four conferences do you pick from? Which conference gets left out?  No subjective bullshit or speculation is allowed, so there must be a scientific way to prove that the big east isn't as good as the sec.
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2013, 10:10:09 PM »
Do all teams receive a trophy for participating?
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2013, 12:23:44 AM »
Which four conferences do you pick from? Which conference gets left out?  No subjective bullshit or speculation is allowed, so there must be a scientific way to prove that the big east isn't as good as the sec.
Out of conference games.

I'd rather see four super conferences.

But we're not far from that anyway.

SEC
Pac12
Big10
ACC

Big 12 on the verge of extinction.
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2013, 08:19:06 AM »
Out of conference games.

I'd rather see four super conferences.

But we're not far from that anyway.

SEC
Pac12
Big10
ACC

Big 12 on the verge of extinction.

I would be fine with that. But that isn't what we have now.  And any argument saying you should only be eligible for a 4 team playoff if you win your conference right now is retarded. Because you still have to use speculation and subjective bullshit to determine which 4 conferences make it in.
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2013, 08:20:59 AM »
I would be fine with that. But that isn't what we have now.  And any argument saying you should only be eligible for a 4 team playoff if you win your conference right now is retarded. Because you still have to use speculation and subjective bullshit to determine which 4 conferences make it in.

This.


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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2013, 08:37:01 AM »
I would be fine with that. But that isn't what we have now.  And any argument saying you should only be eligible for a 4 team playoff if you win your conference right now is retarded. Because you still have to use speculation and subjective bullshoot to determine which 4 conferences make it in.

From the looks of it, the selection committee will continue the old bowl committee's tradition of giving all benefit of doubt in favor of Alabama and Notre Dame. So, you have nothing to worry about as long as the payments to Emmert keep going through ;-)
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2013, 12:21:27 PM »
I don't know why the fuck we have to over complicate things (actually I do it's all about $$$$)  If you don't think their is a bias to setup certain games all in the name of money, you guys are out of your minds.

But I digress on to my point.  What I don't understand is why not keep the BCS pool, which factors in SOS and the computers and the human vote and just take the top 4 teams.  Even if you have an weird year like 2011 it would have been

#1 LSU vs #3 Oklahoma State
#2 Alabammer vs #4 Stanford

If LSU and Bama end up playing each other again regardless of what happened earlier in the year I would have had no problem with that. Because they would have had to beat equal quality opponents to get back there.

But see this will never happen because it's not fair the SEC has two teams in the playoffs and we have none...wah!  :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2013, 12:30:01 PM »
I don't know why the fuck we have to over complicate things (actually I do it's all about $$$$)  If you don't think their is a bias to setup certain games all in the name of money, you guys are out of your minds.

But I digress on to my point.  What I don't understand is why not keep the BCS pool, which factors in SOS and the computers and the human vote and just take the top 4 teams.  Even if you have an weird year like 2011 it would have been

#1 LSU vs #3 Oklahoma State
#2 Alabammer vs #4 Stanford

If LSU and Bama end up playing each other again regardless of what happened earlier in the year I would have had no problem with that. Because they would have had to beat equal quality opponents to get back there.

But see this will never happen because it's not fair the SEC has two teams in the playoffs and we have none...wah!  :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

It's like you think it and then you type it. 

Agree.  Just leave the system as is and take the top 4 teams. 
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2013, 12:55:03 PM »
It's like they're fucking with us.

Oh YEAH? You wanted a playoff? Well, this is the only way we can do a playoff. Bye-bye SOS. Bye-bye objective computer polls. So when it sucks even worse they can say "Well, this is what you wanted! What're you complaining about!"

It's the fallacy of false choice.
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2013, 01:46:29 PM »
When are they going to add Betty White?
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2013, 02:33:39 PM »
It's like they're fudgeing with us.

Oh YEAH? You wanted a playoff? Well, this is the only way we can do a playoff. Bye-bye SOS. Bye-bye objective computer polls. So when it sucks even worse they can say "Well, this is what you wanted! What're you complaining about!"

It's the fallacy of false choice.

Just like the Affordable Care Act.
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2013, 02:34:37 PM »
Just like the Affordable Care Act.

I like ObamaCare better
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« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2013, 02:41:49 PM »
I like ObamaCare better

He's a president -- that cares
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Re: Arkansas AD to head selection committee
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2013, 03:08:11 PM »
Arkansas AD Jeff Long tapped to head football selection committee.


They don't have to worry about conflict of interest with him.   :haha: :haha:
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« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2013, 11:46:25 PM »
The College Football Playoff made it official today. The 13 members of the playoff selection committee were announced, via College Football Playoff:

Related: FoxSports analyst says everyone is sick of the SEC

Jeff Long, vice chancellor and director of athletics, University of Arkansas-Fayetteville, Chair
Barry Alvarez, director of athletics, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Lieutenant General Mike Gould, former superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy
Pat Haden, director of athletics, University of Southern California
Tom Jernstedt, former NCAA executive vice president
Oliver Luck, director of athletics, West Virginia University
Archie Manning, former University of Mississippi quarterback and all-pro NFL quarterback
Tom Osborne, former head coach and director of athletics, University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Dan Radakovich, director of athletics, Clemson University
Condoleezza Rice, Stanford University professor, former Stanford provost and former United States Secretary of State
Mike Tranghese, former commissioner of the Big East Conference
Steve Wieberg, former college football reporter, USA Today
Tyrone Willingham, former head coach of three FBS institutions



This may have been posted already, but this is the first time I have seen the entire list.
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2013, 09:35:19 AM »
More troublesome than Condi to me are the current sitting Athletic Directors. How can they possibly not show bias? If Jacobs was on this list I'd be pissed if he wasn't ranking Auburn #1 every week. Their job description is to do everything in their power to maximize the athletic department, and put butts in seats. Highly ranked teams sell the most tickets.

Seems shady to me.
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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2013, 09:47:53 AM »
Seems shady to me.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I just have to laugh.  Dude, again college football is like a 20 BILLION dollar business, you think they leave shit to chance. You don't think there are agendas.  Of course it's fucking shady, it has been shady for years.
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