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Re: True or False?
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2013, 09:39:38 PM »
I don't think bama necessarily gained anything from having a former OM staffer in their booth, but why the fuck was he up there with binoculars in the first place?  If his intent wasn't to steal signals, I'd be curious to know what it was.

And is that his job for every game, or just this one in particular?

Lord Saybanz said that Siskey has been in those booths before this game.  I haven't searched for footage to verify.
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Re: True or False?
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2013, 01:42:18 AM »
Lord Saybanz said that Siskey has been in those booths before this game.  I haven't searched for footage to verify.
You mean all of the other three games?
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Re: True or False?
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2013, 05:11:33 PM »
You mean all of the other three games?
When questioned at the weekly news conference Saban acknowledged Siskey had performed the same fuction in previous games and didn't elaborate further.
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2013, 06:01:18 PM »
When questioned at the weekly news conference Saban acknowledged Siskey had performed the same fuction in previous games and didn't elaborate further.

Same function meaning cheating, right?
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2013, 06:04:16 PM »
Same function meaning cheating, right?

Well sure, if Tyler Sisky also worked for the other three teams and also knew their signals. Makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2013, 07:02:19 PM »
Well sure, if Tyler Sisky also worked for the other three teams and also knew their signals. Makes perfect sense.

It's SPUAT, it doesn't have to make sense. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2013, 10:20:22 AM »
First off that blog is just that, a fucking ole miss blog.  Second, Freeze himself said they changed the signals.  Third you mean to tell me that he had time to decipher the plays, tell the guy talking to Kirby Smart about it, who then relays it to the field....all while Ole Miss is in hurry up mode? Fourth that video shows a guy with binoculars looking at anything, fuck he could have been checkin out the bama cheerleaders for all we know. 

I hate bama with every breath, but Ole Piss was doing a lot of shit talking and they got their asses handed to them.  Done. Crybabies.
This still pisses me off that this has been forgotten about, and people more or less are saying what you said above.

I'm sorry, dude, but this is clear and obvious cheating.

Watch the video. He's clearly peering through the binoculars, lowering them and clearly saying "Pass" to the coach with the headset on next to him.

Regardless of the fact that he is using his former relations with the Ole Miss coaching staff as an advantage with his relations with the Alabama staff, he is not a coach and has no business being in that box, let alone communicating plays to the staff. Period. The end. More flagrant cheating and the whole world turns their head. The game is rigged, why are we even playing anymore? Bama gets to play with their own deck of 52 aces, and everyone says "Well, you really should be able to do that if you're smart enough to bring your own deck."

Fuck that shit, their flagrant cheating is about a quarter inch away from forever ruining football for me.
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Re: True or False?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2013, 10:42:46 AM »
he is not a coach and has no business ...communicating plays to the staff.

That is the crucial part [emphasis in the original post].  The former OM relationship is smoke.
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Re: True or False?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 02:55:37 PM »
I'm sorry, dude, but this is clear and obvious cheating.

Maybe you're advocating that the rules be changed, but under the current rules, it is not cheating.  The only thing that is prohibited is recording another team's play call signals.  There is nothing in the rules that prevents a coach or anyone else from trying to decipher what a signal or sign on the sidelines means as far as the upcoming play.

Regardless of the fact that he is using his former relations with the Ole Miss coaching staff as an advantage with his relations with the Alabama staff,

Freeze himself said he changed the signals since Siskey was last there.  How is this an advantage?  And even if it is an advantage, it's still not cheating according to the rules as they currently stand.

he is not a coach and has no business being in that box, let alone communicating plays to the staff.

I don't see any NCAA rules about who can be in the booth.  The only limitations I see are in relation to the coaches box, which is not the booth to which you're referring.  There are also limitations on the number of on-field assistants, but if you're in a booth upstairs, you're not on the field.

The only potential rule he could be breaking is by "coaching" the game, whatever that definition is.  But ultimately, if Ole Miss changed their signals, then his illegal coaching would not get Bama anywhere.
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2013, 07:02:37 PM »
Fuck that shit, their flagrant cheating is about a quarter inch away from forever ruining football for me.
Challenge accepted.

If as little comes of this as the Birmingham radio DJs are insisting, and the lack of any interest at all from the national media, count me out. I'm done.
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2013, 07:19:15 PM »
Challenge accepted.

If as little comes of this as the Birmingham radio DJs are insisting, and the lack of any interest at all from the national media, count me out. I'm done.

Did you just challenge yourself, and then turn around and accept your own challenge?
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2013, 07:25:14 PM »
Did you just challenge yourself, and then turn around and accept your own challenge?

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Re: True or False?
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2013, 07:36:56 PM »
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Re: True or False?
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2013, 08:19:15 PM »
Did you just challenge yourself, and then turn around and accept your own challenge?
No.

It was a joke based on the fact that I had JUST said that I was a "quarter inch away" from giving up on caring about football due to Bama never being held accountable for their flagrant violations, and then Bama accepts my challenge and ups the ante.

I quit.
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2013, 09:35:43 PM »
Agreed.  It's ridiculous.
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