Why Has Kiehl Frazier Seen the Field?

Townhallsavoy · « **on:** September 23, 2013, 07:13:34 PM »

Anyone know why Frazier is getting snaps?

The Six · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2013, 07:40:25 PM »

Maybe Gus doesn't want to get Marshall hurt by running him straight into the teeth of the D in wildcat situations. Maybe he doesn't want Wallace hurt either because he'd have to take the redshirt of Johnson or maybe Wallace isn't very good at wildcatting. Maybe Kiehl Frazier's salary demands he get some use out of him.

All things that make you go hmmm.

jmar · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2013, 08:04:35 PM »

Quote from: TheSix on September 23, 2013, 07:40:25 PM

Maybe Gus doesn't want to get Marshall hurt by running him straight into the teeth of the D in wildcat situations. Maybe he doesn't want Wallace hurt either because he'd have to take the redshirt of Johnson or maybe Wallace isn't very good at wildcatting. Maybe Kiehl Frazier's salary demands he get some use out of him.

All things that make you go hmmm.

Gus' response to this question aired on the radio broadcast Saturday.(paraphrased) Kiehl has been there and this isn't new for him to which the questioner agreed that Frazier did have success in 2010 as the WC QB.

But I agree, it adds nothing if there is no threat to throw and it has generally been a wasted play since 2010. Just run CAP on a Green Bay sweep if you want a change of pace.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2013, 08:09:39 PM »

Fewer hits on a physically smaller qb...Gus and Marshall get a play to sit together and talk, without burning a timeout....I still am not a fan, but can see some pros.

JR4AU · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2013, 08:11:24 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on September 23, 2013, 08:09:39 PM

Fewer hits on a physically smaller qb...Gus and Marshall get a play to sit together and talk, without burning a timeout....I still am not a fan, but can see some pros.

^^^Gets it

CCTAU · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2013, 08:42:38 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on September 23, 2013, 08:11:24 PM

^^^Gets it

JW still a better choice. At least he has shown he can hit a short pass!

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on September 23, 2013, 08:11:24 PM

^^^Gets it

Gets what?

Why not use Payne, Mason, Bray, Prisch, Holland, Frost, or anyone else?

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2013, 10:13:27 PM »

Quote from: Townhallsavoy on September 23, 2013, 10:04:08 PM

Gets what?

Why not use Payne, Mason, Bray, Prisch, Holland, Frost, or anyone else?

Maybe it's a reward for being such a team player?

Kaos · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2013, 11:47:30 PM »

Pictures of Gus with a mountain lion?

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #9 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:16:19 AM »

Remember when Kodi would run in to wildcat and Cam would come out in early '10? It didn't last all season. I think this will be similar.

GH2001 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:18:04 AM »

Quote from: JR4AU on September 23, 2013, 08:11:24 PM

^^^Gets it

Agree

It's like everyone is a hindsight coach suddenly.

AU_Tiger_2000 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:21:15 AM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on September 23, 2013, 08:09:39 PM

Fewer hits on a physically smaller qb...Gus and Marshall get a play to sit together and talk, without burning a timeout....I still am not a fan, but can see some pros.

This, plus when you are running the HUNH and your QB is doing double duty as a running back in the option then you have to rotate him out some or running plays are going to stop being as effective.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #12 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:22:53 AM »

I agree. Gets what? Kaleeyl came in on the first play of a series one time. They didn't have an opportunity to talk during the time out?

This is another example of Gus out thinking himself. You really substitute someone for Cam to run the mildcat? Really? You take a guy who is no longer on your QB depth chart, who is half as fast as your starter, half as fast as your #2 guy, half the arm of either one with zero decision making skillz from the position....and the point is.....?

GH2001 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:27:17 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2013, 09:22:53 AM

I agree. Gets what? Kaleeyl came in on the first play of a series one time. They didn't have an opportunity to talk during the time out?

This is another example of Gus out thinking himself. You really substitute someone for Cam to run the mildcat? Really? You take a guy who is no longer on your QB depth chart, who is half as fast as your starter, half as fast as your #2 guy, half the arm of either one with zero decision making skillz from the position....and the point is.....?

I know right? You guys deserve answers.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #14 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:35:03 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on September 24, 2013, 09:27:17 AM

I know right? You guys deserve answers.

I think I'm entitled to them.

GH2001 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 24, 2013, 09:36:02 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2013, 09:35:03 AM

I think I'm entitled to them.

First hope. Then change.

CCTAU · « **Reply #16 on:** September 24, 2013, 10:05:48 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2013, 09:22:53 AM

I agree. Gets what? Kaleeyl came in on the first play of a series one time. They didn't have an opportunity to talk during the time out?

This is another example of Gus out thinking himself. You really substitute someone for Cam to run the mildcat? Really? You take a guy who is no longer on your QB depth chart, who is half as fast as your starter, half as fast as your #2 guy, half the arm of either one with zero decision making skillz from the position....and the point is.....?

Pffft. Apparently you haven't seen Kahleel 2.0!

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #17 on:** September 24, 2013, 10:13:00 AM »

Quote from: CCTAU on September 24, 2013, 10:05:48 AM

Pffft. Apparently you haven't seen Kahleel 2.0!

I have and it's a Chopped up version of Kadril 1.75

CCTAU · « **Reply #18 on:** September 24, 2013, 10:14:33 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2013, 10:13:00 AM

I have and it's a Chopped up version of Kadril 1.75

Chopped up hell. That stuff looks like potted meat....

ssgaufan · « **Reply #19 on:** September 24, 2013, 10:18:42 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2013, 09:22:53 AM

I agree. Gets what? Kaleeyl came in on the first play of a series one time. They didn't have an opportunity to talk during the time out?

This is another example of Gus out thinking himself. You really substitute someone for Cam to run the mildcat? Really? You take a guy who is no longer on your QB depth chart, who is half as fast as your starter, half as fast as your #2 guy, half the arm of either one with zero decision making skillz from the position....and the point is.....?

During the game they mentioned that he was now back on the offensive roster. I guess they decided that he sucked at safety too.